BSc/Diploma in Information Systems

ToxicPaddy · 19-09-2013 6:09pm

Anyone know where the orientation is on this evening for this course?

MagicMarker · 14-03-2014 7:35pm

Hi Guys, how are you getting on with the course? I applied today, my only concern would be that it doesn't seem to be as technical and some other courses? Not as much programming etc. Would you agree?

ToxicPaddy · 14-03-2014 10:05pm

Nearly through the first year and its been a long one.

In the first year it's not very technical and they don't want it that way it seems. It's designed to give you a broad overview of all aspects of IT and you don't really specialise until the 3rd year of the degree.

So far the modules have covered:

VB programming
Web Design Theory and some HTML
Business Methods/Maths
Organisational Mgmt
Information Systems (Overview of various areas of IT, IT Mgmt, IT Systems)

Personally I'm finding the VB tough as it moved at a very fast pace in the first semester and that lot a hell of a lot of people, it was only after Xmas that the lecturer realised this and slowed down a little.

The rest is mostly theory and there are assessments all through the year adding up to usually between 40% and 50% of final grade. One module, the CS1106 is 100% project based.

Its tough going if you're in an anyway stressful job but manageable.

If you're looking for a purely programming/development based course, you might find this one a little boring.

MagicMarker · 14-03-2014 10:28pm

Thanks for that, I'm not looking specifically for programming/developing, but I'd like to know that at the end of the 4 years I at least wouldn't be lacking in the programming/development department.

The IS course in DIT seems to be far more geared towards WebDev and Programming, both of which seem to be major components in the first year.

ToxicPaddy · 15-03-2014 11:55pm

It's possible to specialise from 3rd year onwards I believe but it's a path I won't be taking as it's not what I'm interested in.

That course in DIT also looks good.

Filipa · 01-05-2014 6:33pm

I'm currently filling in the online application form and have a few doubts:

As a mature student, do I still have to fill in the Personal statement section?
In the supporting documents, is a CV also required?

Thanks for the help

ToxicPaddy · 02-05-2014 10:52am

Filipa wrote: »

I'm currently filling in the online application form and have a few doubts:

As a mature student, do I still have to fill in the Personal statement section?
In the supporting documents, is a CV also required?

Thanks for the help

Hi there,

Are you talking about the full time or evening course?

Filipa · 02-05-2014 10:17pm

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

Hi there,

Are you talking about the full time or evening course?

Hi, the evening course please.

Thanks.

UDP · 02-05-2014 10:48pm

Filipa wrote: »

Hi, the evening course please.

Thanks.

I filled it in but I don't think it made any difference. They will be happy to just have the revenue so don't worry about writing a masterpiece. Don't think the cv is required. I added it just because I had it to hand. References are definitely not required.

ToxicPaddy · 12-05-2014 1:20pm

Filipa wrote:

I'm currently filling in the online application form and have a few doubts:

As a mature student, do I still have to fill in the Personal statement section? In the supporting documents, is a CV also required?

Thanks for the help

UDP wrote: »

I filled it in but I don't think it made any difference. They will be happy to just have the revenue so don't worry about writing a masterpiece. Don't think the cv is required. I added it just because I had it to hand. References are definitely not required.

I wouldn't say its purely revenue based as a few people in the class know someone who didn't get accepted to the course last year and it certainly wasn't full. There were about 40 people starting and I'd say at least 5 dropped out during the year for one reason or another.

So try and add the CV if possible as if nothing else it will give them a better idea of your back ground , if you have any IT experience and if so, what level its at.

If you don't work in IT, that should not be a problem as most of the first year class this year didn't either. Don't be afraid to ask any questions either and try to get to the open evenings as it will definitely help answer some questions for you.

But UDP is correct in that it doesn't have to be a masterpiece, but make sure clear and to the point.

Tox

Filipa · 12-05-2014 1:29pm

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

I wouldn't say its purely revenue based as a few people in the class know someone who didn't get accepted to the course last year and it certainly wasn't full. There were about 40 people starting and I'd say at least 5 dropped out during the year for one reason or another.

So try and add the CV if possible as if nothing else it will give them a better idea of your back ground , if you have any IT experience and if so, what level its at.

If you don't work in IT, that should not be a problem as most of the first year class this year didn't either. Don't be afraid to ask any questions either and try to get to the open evenings as it will definitely help answer some questions for you.

But UDP is correct in that it doesn't have to be a masterpiece, but make sure clear and to the point.

Tox

Thanks UDP and Tox.
Have now filled in the application (with Personal statement and CV).
Now fingers crossed that I'll be accepted

MagicMarker · 12-05-2014 1:37pm

I filled in the personal statement and CV, almost 2 months ago now. Haven't heard anything yet.

I've already accepted a place in DIT though, so you can have my spot if I get one!

ToxicPaddy · 12-05-2014 1:56pm

I didn't get confirmation until mid June I think..

I'll have to dig it out and let you know..

Olimpiu · 28-06-2014 1:29pm

Hello.

Would the diploma 2 years can you get a job from it? and would it be reconsidered in germany. I am planning of moving there with the girlfriend.

Thank you.

Filipa · 03-07-2014 3:38pm

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

I didn't get confirmation until mid June I think..

I'll have to dig it out and let you know..

Still waiting to hear if I got in or not...it is slowly driving me up the wall :rolleyes:

ToxicPaddy · 03-07-2014 6:24pm

Filipa wrote: »

Still waiting to hear if I got in or not...it is slowly driving me up the wall :rolleyes:

Sometimes no news is good news

ToxicPaddy · 03-07-2014 6:30pm

Olimpiu wrote: »

Hello.

Would the diploma 2 years can you get a job from it? and would it be reconsidered in germany. I am planning of moving there with the girlfriend.

Thank you.

It would help but if everyone else has a degree unless you have more experience you're not gonna get too many offers.

However I believe as the TCD courses are modules and points based, you could transfer to another university to finish your degree in Germany.

Joya · 25-07-2014 12:08pm

smcelhinney wrote: »

Im going into year 3 of this course, and while it's challenging, it's not impossible.
...
All in all, so far so good, it is thoroughly rewarding and very practically applicable in my current role.

Hi, i am just finishing the year 2 of this course and am trying to get a job. I have to say it is very confusing because I find this course - while very time demanding, does not give you knowledge for any specific IT job. So what role are you in actually? And can you say a little how this course helped you? Thanks a lot

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lstevo wrote: »

Thanks for the replies earlier.
But exactly what types of jobs could i get out of this Degree?
I would be interested in getting a more techy job.
Maybe it would be better for me to do a B.Sc in Computing?
I'm just really unsure and I don't want to be making any wrong choices

i have to say that i find this course as very general. i did some programming courses before and i think now that perhaps spending two years in practicing Java instead of doing this course would open me so far more doors than doing this course..

bodun wrote: »

All your lecture notes/handouts will be put up online on blackboard, most lecturers on this course put them up before each lecture last year, although they might be a bit slow the first week or two. I'm starting second year in this next week if you have any questions about first year.

so I must know you then cause we are classmates : )), you can PM me? - you'll recognise me from the photo ;d))

MagicMarker wrote: »

Hi Guys, how are you getting on with the course? I applied today, my only concern would be that it doesn't seem to be as technical and some other courses? Not as much programming etc. Would you agree?

that is actually exactly how it is, it is neither.. or little bit of everything.. perhaps if i knew this before id chose some other course..but it does give you the general overview of the options in IT/IS sector..

ToxicPaddy · 25-07-2014 2:54pm

IT courses are rarely about specific areas, even the ones that are more development based cover various languages.

Degrees get you in the front door for an interview but they won't get you a job, that's up to you and how much you take from the course plus the additional knowledge you build up yourself.

I'm working in IT 16 years now and my learning curve is still vertical. Technology changes at a rapid rate and it's up to each individual to choose a path and learn as much as they can as well as keeping up with trends and advances.

I've just finished my first year, passed it with a good deal of work and while it won't change my world, getting a degree will open a few extra doors for me in the future, what I do from there is up to me..

Filipa · 21-08-2014 9:16am

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

Sometimes no news is good news

So finally got my good news

and have now paid the tuition fees

Just not sure what follows next as this is my first experience with Irish colleges (and Trinity)...
Will I be getting a pack by post? Or an email to let me know when classes start, where to pick up my student card,...

Could someone let me know how their first year registration happened? Thanks

ToxicPaddy · 21-08-2014 12:45pm

Filipa wrote: »

So finally got my good news and have now paid the tuition fees

Just not sure what follows next as this is my first experience with Irish colleges (and Trinity)...
Will I be getting a pack by post? Or an email to let me know when classes start, where to pick up my student card,...

Could someone let me know how their first year registration happened? Thanks

Firstly, congrats on getting in.

Most correspondence is done through the MYTCD.ie website, so keep an eye on your inbox there. There will also be some post with some details in that..

IIRC the registration will be in the next few weeks, usually a week or two before the actual start of class. Classes start in the last week of Sept.

Updated

I just checked my emails from last year. Here's what I had to do:

Once you complete your online registration, your registration documentation will be emailed to you. This takes about 24 hours after you complete the online forms.

You need to print these forms off and bring these along with photo ID (Passport is best) to the location they set out for your module to register.
Last year it was Luce Hall between Sept 9th and 27th , but that may change this year.

Most if not all of where you need to go will be at the end of the campus where the sports hall and gym is, so the entrance from Pearse st is ideal for you. Saves you walking the whole length of the campus from the Dame St or Nassau st entrances.

Your time table if its the same as last year will be Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday from 6pm to 9pm. 2 x classes per night with a short break in between classes on each day.

Any other questions, feel free to pm me

Tox

Olong · 01-09-2014 4:52pm

Hi there,

I deferred for 1 year and am starting again this month. I've paid my fee's and have been checking mytcd.ie daily waiting for information.

Last year when i sign up i remember getting an email from the administration team mid August with all the details about when and where i go to collect my student card etc...but this year I've heard nothing.

Did anyone starting year 1 this month receive information about timetables, student card collection, start dates etc.

Thanks guys!

Filipa · 23-09-2014 10:48pm

To all previous Year 1 students,

I'm looking for a book for the Internet Systems module (CS1102), 'Web Development: A Visual-Spatial Approach', by Craig M Baehr.

Would there be anyone looking to sell their copy?

Thanks

ToxicPaddy · 26-09-2014 6:17pm

Filipa wrote: »

To all previous Year 1 students,

I'm looking for a book for the Internet Systems module (CS1102), 'Web Development: A Visual-Spatial Approach', by Craig M Baehr.

Would there be anyone looking to sell their copy?

Thanks

I'll ask around the class and see if anyone is willing to part with their book. I know a lot of people borrowed from the library as they had about 5 or 6 copies of it.

Keep an eye on the trinity classifieds too as a copy of two usually pops up there.

Filipa · 28-09-2014 10:35pm

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

I'll ask around the class and see if anyone is willing to part with their book. I know a lot of people borrowed from the library as they had about 5 or 6 copies of it.

Keep an eye on the trinity classifieds too as a copy of two usually pops up there.

Hi, ToxicPaddy.

I have now found a copy. Thanks for checking for me anyway.

Filipa

ToxicPaddy · 29-09-2014 12:36pm

Filipa wrote: »

Hi, ToxicPaddy.

I have now found a copy. Thanks for checking for me anyway.

Filipa

No worries..

doc19827 · 26-02-2015 12:19am

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

IT courses are rarely about specific areas, even the ones that are more development based cover various languages.

Degrees get you in the front door for an interview but they won't get you a job, that's up to you and how much you take from the course plus the additional knowledge you build up yourself.

I'm working in IT 16 years now and my learning curve is still vertical. Technology changes at a rapid rate and it's up to each individual to choose a path and learn as much as they can as well as keeping up with trends and advances.

I've just finished my first year, passed it with a good deal of work and while it won't change my world, getting a degree will open a few extra doors for me in the future, what I do from there is up to me..

Hi Paddy

I'm in the process of completing the application.

Just wondering the age/background profile of the course?

Im 33 and working full time about 12 years +. I work in the insurance industry and have been completing the ongoing industry exams etc so no stranger to exams etc. I have a business qualification going back awhile.

I've always been interested in technology and am eager to change careers.

I have done a lot of reaerch and found the fact the first two years of the course is less techy than the other evening courses in Dublin it might be the most suitable for someone in my position.

Would this course be suitable for some like myself?

Thanks in advance

doc19827 · 26-02-2015 12:20am

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

IT courses are rarely about specific areas, even the ones that are more development based cover various languages.

Degrees get you in the front door for an interview but they won't get you a job, that's up to you and how much you take from the course plus the additional knowledge you build up yourself.

I'm working in IT 16 years now and my learning curve is still vertical. Technology changes at a rapid rate and it's up to each individual to choose a path and learn as much as they can as well as keeping up with trends and advances.

I've just finished my first year, passed it with a good deal of work and while it won't change my world, getting a degree will open a few extra doors for me in the future, what I do from there is up to me..

Hi Paddy

I'm in the process of completing the application.

Just wondering the age/background profile of the course?

Im 32 and working full time about 12 years +. I work in the insurance industry and have been completing the ongoing industry exams etc so no stranger to exams etc. I have a business qualification going back awhile.

I've always been interested in technology and am eager to change careers.

I have done a lot of reaerch and found the fact the first two years of the course is less techy than the other evening courses in Dublin it might be the most suitable for someone in my position.

Would this course be suitable for some like myself?

Thanks in advance

UDP · 27-02-2015 12:08pm

doc19827 wrote: »

Hi Paddy

I'm in the process of completing the application.

Just wondering the age/background profile of the course?

Im 32 and working full time about 12 years +. I work in the insurance industry and have been completing the ongoing industry exams etc so no stranger to exams etc. I have a business qualification going back awhile.

I've always been interested in technology and am eager to change careers.

I have done a lot of reaerch and found the fact the first two years of the course is less techy than the other evening courses in Dublin it might be the most suitable for someone in my position.

Would this course be suitable for some like myself?

Thanks in advance

It depends what you are looking to get out of it i.e. if you want to become a programmer or a techy of some sort then do the DIT course. The trinity course is more business focused than the DIT course so is good for business analysis in IT, project management and the less tech heavy side of things. My year has only about 50% working in IT and the non-IT 50% come from all sorts of backgrounds including insurance. Don't skip the first year though, I have seen people do that and struggle. You can take a skip on the business subjects in the first year if you have a qualification in it already. Get an exemption on the "Organisation and management" class but go to it all the same as it is worth it with the bonus of not having an exam. It is probably the best subject in first year if the lecturer is still John Quilliam. Get out of Business Methods if you can though as it is a complete waste of time.

ToxicPaddy · 06-03-2015 7:05am

I agree with the above post. Get an exemption but don't skip the year. 2nd year is tough, you'll need to ease yourself into study mode again and get your mind set right.

I'm doing second year at the moment, a good few of the class skipped first year and some are really struggling.

If you apply yourself to the assignments in first year you can pretty much get through each module before the end of year exams.

John McQuillams class is excellent. He really is one of the best lecturers out there. Mark Lynch who teaches VB is also an excellent lecturer but you need to let him know if you're struggling.

Doc19827, the majority of the people on the course are early 30s+ and are working full time. Some have IT experience but a good deal have little or no experience in that industry however most want to get into IT.

As I said before, it won't necessarily get you a job but it could get you in the door for an interview for a grad position or help you move in your current company into the IT dept which will give you a start.

The course is not very technical so don't expect to be considered by the likes of Google for a dev role, you won't have enough dev knowledge but it might be good for business analyst role or project management role. After 2nd year you come out with the basic PMI qualification I believe but I may be wrong in that.

BSc/Diploma in Information Systems

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