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    #2372
    desbrook
    Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭desbrook


    cowlove wrote: »
    Is it possible that instead of firing the gun first OP hit the door with the cricket bat?

    That would then tie in with the neighbours saying they heard shots then her scream.

    If they are saying the cricket bat sound. like shots perhaps they were argueing, he hit the door with the cricket bat in anger, she screams then he fires gun?

    No - very credible evidence yesterday showed that two of the cracks caused by the bat stopped dead when they met bullet holes in the door. This clearly showed the holes existed before the cracks were created. Hope my explanation makes sense .


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    #2373
    cowlove
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭cowlove


    desbrook wrote: »
    No - very credible evidence yesterday showed that two of the cracks caused by the bat stopped dead when they met bullet holes in the door. This clearly showed the holes existed before the cracks were created. Hope my explanation makes sense .


    Yeah, makes perfect sense. I was just throwing stuff out there. I have not been able to follow all of the trial.


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    #2374
    Worksforyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    What's the general concensus? He'll be found guilty or not? Haven't been following.


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    #2375
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    Cushie Butterfield wrote: »
    There is (on the telegraph site) Mr Dixon has been crossexamined by Roux & Nel is doing him now - all technical stuff about testing etc

    Would you mind posting a link? I can't find a website for some reason. :confused:


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    #2376
    The Caveman
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭The Caveman


    sopretty wrote: »
    Would you mind posting a link? I can't find a website for some reason. :confused:

    also on BBC main page


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    #2377
    Cushie Butterfield
    Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    sopretty wrote: »
    Would you mind posting a link? I can't find a website for some reason. :confused:
    Sorry I should have in my post: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/oscar-pistorius/10668819/Watch-live-Oscar-Pistorius-murder-trial.html


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    #2378
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    The Caveman wrote: »
    also on BBC main page

    D'internetz is not complying with me today lol. It's saying on the bbc page, 'No related video', then there's a message that some live coverage is not available for legal reasons. This is the website I'm looking at?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26985342


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    #2379
    Muff Richardson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭Muff Richardson


    Jesus, they are really scraping the barrel with this "expert", in geology as it happens. He's apologising for being vague/talking through his hole


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    #2380
    The Caveman
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭The Caveman


    sopretty wrote: »
    D'internetz is not complying with me today lol. It's saying on the bbc page, 'No related video', then there's a message that some live coverage is not available for legal reasons. This is the website I'm looking at?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26985342

    yes, i am in Dublin, and can see it with no problem. They are on a break now...

    below wink is best source - please note, it will show unedited footage

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-live-here-oscar-pistorius-murder-trial-april-16th/


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    #2381
    Tin Foil Hat
    Registered Users Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    Worksforyou wrote: »
    What's the general concensus? He'll be found guilty or not? Haven't been following.

    If he isn't found guilty, then you'd have to wonder how anyone, anywhere ever got done for murder without having done the deed in front of a camera or a crowd.


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    #2382
    Worksforyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    Tin Foil Hat wrote: »
    If he isn't found guilty, then you'd have to wonder how anyone, anywhere ever got done for murder without having done the deed in front of a camera or a crowd.

    OJ.


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    #2383
    The Caveman
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭The Caveman


    i am starting to really like this Nell guy...

    better than a John Grisham novel...


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    #2384
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    Does the fella sitting to the left of Nel remind anyone else of somebody famous? :)


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    #2385
    sham69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭sham69


    sopretty wrote: »
    Does the fella sitting to the left of Nel remind anyone else of somebody famous? :)


    Raymond Reddington from the Blacklist (James Spader..):D


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    #2386
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    sham69 wrote: »
    Raymond Reddington from the Blacklist (James Spader..):D

    I can't figure out who he reminds me of - but he's the spitting image of someone!!! I was starting to wonder whether it was Ricki Gervais he reminded me of, but I don't think it is either. It's doing my head in trying to put a name to whoever it is!!!


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    #2387
    Cushie Butterfield
    Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    sopretty wrote: »
    I can't figure out who he reminds me of - but he's the spitting image of someone!!! I was starting to wonder whether it was Ricki Gervais he reminded me of, but I don't think it is either. It's doing my head in trying to put a name to whoever it is!!!
    Nigel Pivaro?
    http://i1.cdnds.net/12/05/300x225/soaps_corrie_nigel_pivaro.jpg


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    #2388
    sham69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭sham69


    [URL="http://tvisafoodgroup.com/2014/01/20/what-to-watch-jan-20-26/[/URL]


    Thats if we are talking about the same guy...


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    #2389
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    That could be him alright!


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    #2390
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    Why is Nel focusing so much on the bullets? Does it serve the prosecution in some way, or is he trying to discredit Dixon still?


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    #2391
    Cushie Butterfield
    Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    sopretty wrote: »
    Why is Nel focusing so much on the bullets? Does it serve the prosecution in some way, or is he trying to discredit Dixon still?
    Looks like he's trying to tear him to pieces discredit him as an expert of any sort.


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    #2392
    sham69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭sham69


    he's rattling him alright...


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    #2393
    sham69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭sham69


    Seems stange that a lot of Dixon's evidence is based on a photo not on him examining the door or body himself?


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    #2394
    sham69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭sham69


    sopretty wrote: »
    I can't figure out who he reminds me of - but he's the spitting image of someone!!! I was starting to wonder whether it was Ricki Gervais he reminded me of, but I don't think it is either. It's doing my head in trying to put a name to whoever it is!!!



    Ah I was talking about the guy with Roux, his right hand man.

    Just noticed the other guy with the black hair, sorry I'm confusing you :D


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    #2395
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    Roux's preparation for this case is not coming out as being remotely sufficient at all. I don't know what he was at! OP said he didn't meet his legal team often, due to depression or something. I wonder would that account for the shambles? It seems that OP didn't know what Roux was doing and Roux didn't really know what OP was thinking/going to say. If it were me, I certainly wouldn't be booking Roux to defend me!!! This Dixon guy seems to be a jack of all trades, master of none.


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    #2396
    Cushie Butterfield
    Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    sham69 wrote: »
    Seems stange that a lot of Dixon's evidence is based on a photo not on him examining the door or body himself?
    I'm presuming that he didn't have access to the body & had to rely on photos & various medical reports. I don't know if he had access to the door or the bat, or whether he used identical ones.


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    #2397
    Cushie Butterfield
    Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    sopretty wrote: »
    Roux's preparation for this case is not coming out as being remotely sufficient at all. I don't know what he was at! OP said he didn't meet his legal team often, due to depression or something. I wonder would that account for the shambles? It seems that OP didn't know what Roux was doing and Roux didn't really know what OP was thinking/going to say. If it were me, I certainly wouldn't be booking Roux to defend me!!! This Dixon guy seems to be a jack of all trades, master of none.
    I thought the same during OP's cross exam. Didn't he something to the effect that he didn't feel able to look at any of the photos of the body, so didn't really get involved with that end of things, bar tell them what happened?


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    #2398
    sham69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭sham69


    Yeah I would much rather have Nel on my side than Roux thats for sure..


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    #2399
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    Cushie Butterfield wrote: »
    I thought the same during OP's cross exam. Didn't he something to the effect that he didn't feel able to look at any of the photos of the body, so didn't really get involved with that end of things, bar tell them what happened?

    I feel it's a good example of a client refusing to listen to their legal team! I'd say either Roux was left to proceed in the dark almost, without much input from OP, or else Roux didn't consult sufficiently with his client.

    Why on earth didn't he get credible expert witnesses though? Maybe he couldn't find anyone who was willing to testify in defence?

    Pure and utter gratuitous speculation on my part again!!!! :o


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    #2400
    Mr Freeze
    Registered Users Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    I wonder if all the "expert" witnesses will be an inept as this Dixon fella.

    He has done the defence no favours.
    AlexCrawfordSky Alex Crawford
    #oscartrial Nel looks back at his team of experts and smiles (is that a head shake?) as Dixon gives another huge long explanation


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    #2401
    The Caveman
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭The Caveman


    this Dixon is now starting to look bad...


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