New England Patriots thread (MOD WARNING - #4503)

kryogen wrote: »

Fitzgerald would be a fantasy, and a very sweet one at that! Super player, imagine him and getting thrown to by Brady? The production would be through the roof!

Ah to dream............

One can only dream:o, Imagine it did happen tho it would be Moss 07 like production.

What do people think we'll do with our first round pick?

i think bill will grab a very good wr/te somehow he does not generally splash or reach for players but its obvious to him and everyone else that the window with tom brady is closing and he need weapons

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

I read on nfl.com that Edelman wants to try out FA and see how much he can make. Would the pats be willing to pay him what he thinks he deserves

Ya, he mentioned that on a radio show a couple of days ago. Our cap space isn't good this year no thanks to Hernandez. So I'm worried he'll get a better offer somewhere else. It's gas really, nobody would touch him in last years FA and now they'll be falling over themselves to get him. It makes good business sense to never pay a player what he thinks' he's worth. Better to find common ground and a fair deal for everyone. Edelman is bound to know we're in an unusually bad spot this year. If he wants to stay a Patriot, then he'll meet the team half way. If not he'll go with the highest bidder. Robert Kraft just spoke yesterday about him...

“I definitely want Edelman back. He’s an outstanding young man. We hope he wants to be back. Once again it’s about two sides coming together.”

What annoys me is we can't get rid of Amendola, because we'll lose about $2.6 million if he's cut. So they'll probably stick with him, try him another year, lose Edelman and this time next be once again regretting not giving Brady the weapons he needs around him, as the window of opportunity continues to close.

kryogen wrote: »

Edelman seems to really love the place so he could stay, as long as we can afford to pay him fairly.

One thing that struck me immediately after the AFC Championships loss, was how emotional Edelman was in the locker room afterwards. At the time, his emotion reminded of a guy who has played his last game for the team. But I really, really hope I'm wrong on that.

I admire your confidence in Amendola, but I just can't see him getting anyway near the level of trust that Julian had with Tom. His 1 target and 1 drop against the Broncos summed up his season for me - very disappointing. I don't know if you saw the comments from Brady after the AFC title game. He was glowing in his praise of Edelman. And then when a reporter asked him about Amendola. There was a very noticeable, measured pause before he spoke. Of course he said nice things about a teammate like he always does. But the difference in his comments between Edelman and Amendola was pretty obvious.

Looking on the defensive side of the ball, never mind Brady's lack of elite targets costing us games and titles. Here are some eye wateringly bad defensive stats.......



Those appalling stats have really cost us. We gave up less +20 yards plays this year than the previous 2 years, thanks to the Talib effect. But getting off the field on 3rd down got even worse. A lot of work needs to be done, Adrian Wilson needs to be cut, Gregory might be cut, but he might also be extended to free up some more cap space. Personally I’d prefer to see Harmon winning the starting Safety spot. I can see Gregory have a real squeaky bum summer.

The Talib contract is a priority but the value must reflect how injury prone he is and the critical time he has missed for us in big games. Arrignton should be gone imo, he was so bad in a lot of games this year. Of course the muppets gave him his new contract last year for no reason. I’m not sure of his cap hit, but no doubt we can’t cut him because it’ll cost us a few million. McCourty should have a well deserved long term contract sorted out over the summer.

Jake Bequette who has done absolutely nothing for the last two years should go. He cannot cover Ninkovich and Jones and those lads need quality rotational support. Both played around 93% - 94% of all defensive snaps this season and that is way too high. Keeping both fresh is a priority. Andre Carter should also be sent packing, because he’s not the player we had a couple of seasons ago.

I expect restructures for Wilfork, Mayo and Kelly to again free up more cap space. Wilfork’s cap hit is $7.5 million in 2014, so expect a 2-3 year extension to be added this offseason. I don't think he was playing his best football before it happened, so long term, I have my concerns about Wilfork successfully coming back from his Achilles injury.

Spikes is undoubtedly gone and I think Collins is a starter right now. He was our defensive player of the playoffs and was just getting into his groove near the end of the season. I’d love to pick up another Collins style LB either in the draft or FA. So I hope to see Mayo-Hightower-Collins as our 3 starting LB’s next year. Fletcher will also probably be resigned because he's very versatile and interchangeable with any our the LB's. But who the fifth one will be is anyone's guess.

eagle eye wrote: »

Have you got 3rd down stats for the season just gone?

Yip, the table above includes the 2013 season and the defensive stop % on 3rd Down.

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Disappointed for Wes.

I'll be honest and say I'm not. I re-watched our 2011 Superbowl and totally forgot about his shockingly bad drop with 4 minutes left on the clock in the 4th. We were leading, it was a perfect pass and he inexplicably dropped it in the middle of the field. It was a huge drop on third down and we would at least had FG range to increase the lead.To avoid any confusion, it wasn't the sideline drop he had to get a first down deep in the Giant half which came after the 4 minute drop. And maybe it's karma for his role in taking Talib out of the game. I wanted Peyton to win his 2nd ring but I could have cared less about Welker winning one tbh.

kryogen wrote: »

@ Corvus, how could you forget that drop!!

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.:(

Odin Brief Watchband wrote: »

Deckers FA value took a hit tonight.

Read in an article last week that his big game credentials were questionable. Last night's performance did nothing to dispel that.

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Read in an article last week that his big game credentials were questionable. Last night's performance did nothing to dispel that.

If there's any importance to the game at all he goes totally missing, on top of that if he faces any physical DB play at all he falls apart and goes bitching for flags. One of many players i'll be glad to see the back of

I also think the Pats would've done a better job.

The Broncos kept to the same gameplan, they didn't really seems to make any major adjustments to the Hawks play, which is where I think BB would have done a better job.

That being said, by "better" I mean we would have kept the scoreline inside 30 points...
Anyone who showed up last night was going to be man-handled by that D.
I'm glad I didn't have to watch Brady be on the receiving end of it.

nerd69 wrote: »

jesus lads a lot of bitterness here towards one of yere greatest receivers ever

most teams would have done better yesterday not just the pats broncos just had possibly the greatest collective choke of all time

Manning chokes again surprise surprise. Thats why i take Tom Brady every time:D