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Do you think the Iona Institute are homophobic?

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    #722
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    No
    mango salsa wrote: »
    You're still not answering HOW it will change!

    Could go for another 10 thousand posts and is unlikely to provide any semi coherent answer.


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    #723
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,932 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    No
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    .

    That is DEFINITELY not answering the question.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #724
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    SW wrote: »
    why, your opinion, is it better to deny same-sex couples the same legal recognition as hetero couples? How is it detrimental to society to have marriage equality for same-sex couples?

    Just to add. There's several posts that deal with the specifics of this that I've written about earlier. I'm not in favour of denying anyone anything.


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    #725
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,724 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    No
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    .

    Did you have difficulty with my question?

    How is allow marriage equality detrimental to society?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #726
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    No
    I was totally going to photoshop David Quinn's face into the Goatse, er, hole, when I got home from work today to illustrate how I feel about that odious little man, but I just don't have the stomach to stare at David Quinn's face for long enough.


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    #727
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    No
    I'm a married man, and my marriage will not be changed one iota by letting gay people marry.

    I will certainly vote Yes, it's basic fairness.


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    #728
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Daith wrote: »
    Honest question Phill. Why change voting and give it women. Why change marriage and allow interracial marriage.

    I really was expecting a better answer than your repetitive nonsense.

    Don't like it, don't read it. Simples.


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    #729
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭Daith


    No
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    I'm not in favour of denying anyone anything.

    Except extending marriage to LGBT couples. So yes you are.


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    #730
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,724 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    No
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    Just to add. There's several posts that deal with the specifics of this that I've written about earlier. I'm not in favour of denying anyone anything.

    You're not in favour of marriage equality. You said that you think civil partnership is the way to go. That is denying same-sex couples the opportunity to marry and have it legally recognised here.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #731
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭Daith


    No
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    Don't like it, don't read it. Simples.

    It's more bemusement to be honest.


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    #732
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    SW wrote: »
    Did you have difficulty with my question?

    How is allow marriage equality detrimental to society?

    Are we talking about marriage equality as I outlined earlier or same sex marriage?


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    #733
    Shakti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Shakti


    No
    Sarky wrote: »
    I was totally going to photoshop David Quinn's face into the Goatse, er, hole, when I got home from work today to illustrate how I feel about that odious little man, but I just don't have the stomach to stare at David Quinn's face for long enough.

    I think that's more the sort of thing he would do,


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    #734
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,932 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    No
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    Are we talking about marriage equality as I outlined earlier or same sex marriage?
    Are you distinguishing the two as different?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #735
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    SW wrote: »
    You're not in favour of marriage equality. You said that you think civil partnership is the way to go. That is denying same-sex couples the opportunity to marry and have it legally recognised here.

    Not legally recognised how? Legislation would allow for same sex partnerships. Thats y'know, legal.


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    #736
    Bannasidhe
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    No
    LookingFor wrote: »
    Hey RTE, can I get some money the next time Iona defames me on air by saying I would be bad parent/am stealing marriage/etc?

    This got me thinking I might suggest to Gay HQ that all the Gays in Ireland watch/listen to every single Iona spokesperson given air time on the 'National' broadcaster and pay very close attention to what they say so we can note every time they defame us - then we ALL fire off solicitors letters to everybody.


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    #737
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Are you distinguishing the two as different?

    Which two?
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    I asked why we should change it when the system we have works, and has been proven to work for centuries. I then went on to contextualise the statement by saying that same sex partnership legislation would cover the rights issue.

    With me?

    Also. I argued that if we're going to have a referendum on marriage equality, then lets have it. Lets include polygamy as it is more popular than gay marriage.

    With me still?

    As a sideline argument posters but forward the very important issue of fathers rights which are currently being ignored by the state. Any new legislation needs to take into account these rights as a matter of urgency.

    This is the post that I'm referring to


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    #738
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭Daith


    No
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    Not legally recognised how? Legislation would allow for same sex partnerships. Thats y'know, legal.

    So will same sex marriage next year.


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    #739
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,724 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    No
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    Are we talking about marriage equality as I outlined earlier or same sex marriage?

    same-sex marriage is about marriage equality. :confused:
    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    Not legally recognised how? Legislation would allow for same sex partnerships. Thats y'know, legal.
    They can't legally marry, so how could it be legal?

    So what are your reasons for not being in favour of marriage equality for same-sex couples? How will it negatively impact society?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #740
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    This got me thinking I might suggest to Gay HQ that all the Gays in Ireland watch/listen to every single Iona spokesperson given air time on the 'National' broadcaster and pay very close attention to what they say so we can note every time they defame us - then we ALL fire off solicitors letters to everybody.

    lol.

    I'd should do the same with every other poster on boards it seems.


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    #741
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭Daith


    No
    SW wrote: »
    same-sex marriage is about marriage equality. :confused:

    He's bringing back polygamy again. I wish he'd focus on what the referendum is next year rather than what he thinks it is.


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    #742
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    SW wrote: »

    They can't legally marry, so how could it be legal?

    This really is going around in circles.

    I cant deal with posting and reposting the same stuff over and over..............

    Theres a button in the pull down menu that includes all my earlier posts.


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    #743
    eorpach
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭eorpach


    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    Which two?



    This is the post that I'm referring to

    Folks: please do yourselves all a favour and stop feeding the troll.

    Your energies are far better-off channelled into debating with those who sincerely care to debate diverging perspectives from your own.

    My best advice is to politely ignore him until he figures how to coherently express why he believes what he believes.

    Phil Ewinn, if you do earnestly care to debate the content of Post #767, I refer your to #419. Take all the time you need ;)


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    #744
    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Okay, in the interests of getting this thread back on track:

    Phil Ewinn, don't post in this thread again. You're purposefully winding people up and it's just ridiculous at this stage.

    Everyone else, get back to the topic at hand.

    It's also worth noting that a user refusing to answer your questions is not a breach of the charter. If you feel they're trolling, then report them and DO NOT respond to them. Otherwise... well, I'm sure we've all read this thread.


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    #745
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭Daith


    No
    It's kinda of amazing watching history programs and going "Bloody hell how did people think lack of womens rights, racism, sexism, xenophobia" were okay. How could people think like that?

    Then you read through some of these posts and go "ah right that's how".


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    #746
    Gustavo Kuerten
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 ✭Gustavo Kuerten


    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    lol.

    I'd should do the same with every other poster on boards it seems.

    Hi Phil,

    Can you explain what change on society you believe legal same sex marriage would have and do you think they would be negative changes?


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    #747
    eorpach
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭eorpach


    Gustavo Kuerten wrote: »
    Hi Phil,

    Can you explain what change on society you believe legal same sex marriage would have and do you think they would be negative changes?

    Think you missed the boat there Gustavo Kuerten. See Moderator post #744 above.


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    #748
    Shakti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Shakti


    No
    set sail for the hebrides no doubt


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    #749
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    No
    So that's 447 (so far) who think the Iona Institute is homophobic versus 54 who don't. That's over 89% of people sampled who believe the Iona Institute is homophobic. Even taking into account that the pool of boards.ie users isn't an entirely accurate representation of the population as a whole, that's still quite a large majority.

    Of course, since the definition of what constitutes homophobia is seemingly a decision for the Iona Institute and their legal team rather than people like Rory O'Neill (who, y'know, ACTUALLY experience it) we now have 447 people "closing down debate on same sex marriage and adoption”, as Mr. Quinn puts it. Wonder will we see 447 legal letters on the way to boards HQ?


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    #750
    whats the point
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭whats the point


    Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's opinion, ethnicity, race, religion, national origin, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics.

    Works both ways, a lot of Bigotry in this thread from both sides.


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    #751
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    No
    whats the point wrote: »
    Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's opinion, ethnicity, race, religion, national origin, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics.

    Works both ways, a lot of Bigotry in this thread from both sides.

    I don't hate their religion "love one another as I have loved you" is the fundamental Christian message.


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