In America 1 in 3 women will be sexually assualted in her lifetime

Lou.m · 21-04-2013 7:02am #1

http://www.woar.org/resources/sexual-assault-statistics.php

In the US 1 in 3 women will be sexually assaulted. In Sweden 1 in 4 women will be raped. http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/1-in-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-as-sexual-assaults-increase-500/ Strangely the Muslim community in Sweden represented 77% of the reported cases. I am not sure about the statistics for male rape or child abuse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
In the UK 16 % of boys 13- 18 have experienced sexual violence.
In the UK one third that is 1 in 3 girls 13-18 have experienced sexual violence.

In the UK 12% of boys and 3% of girls self reported committing sexual violence against their own partners.
Can we change society?

Can we change the human species? It would be horrible to think this is just something humans do. It is quite sick. How is it stopped?

Interesting an expert on Date rape and the narcissism of rapists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lisak

kneemos · 21-04-2013 8:49am

I think they need some new terminology,a slap on the bum is sexual assault,most people think of something more serious when they hear the term.

EoghanIRL · 21-04-2013 8:52am

There is diferrent degrees of sexual assault....I wouldn't jump to a conclusion and say that 1 in 3 are severely assaulted .

token101 · 21-04-2013 9:30am

Would that mean that one in every three men, give or take, is a sexual predator? Or that say one in every seven or eight is a serial sexual predator? Because 30% of all women in America is a high number and, not that I doubt the validity of your statistics or anything, it would require an awful lot of nasty men to exist. What do you suggest is the solution OP?

Three Seasons · 21-04-2013 9:35am

token101 wrote: »

Would that mean that one in every three men, give or take, is a sexual predator? Or that say one in every seven or eight is a serial sexual predator? Because 30% of all women in America is a high number and, not that I doubt the validity of your statistics or anything, it would require an awful lot of nasty men to exist. What do you suggest is the solution OP?

Not really, it could just be one highly active bum grabber touring America.

Wabbit Ears · 21-04-2013 9:40am

Considering I know a fair few people and only a very small minority of them have experienced sexual violence I have to say these statistics are complete lies made up by people with agendas to their own extreme causes.

token101 · 21-04-2013 9:41am

Three Seasons wrote: »

Not really, it could just be one highly active bum grabber touring America.

Goosers are losers.

IzzyWizzy · 21-04-2013 9:44am

Wabbit Ears wrote: »

Considering I know a fair few people and only a very small minority of them have experienced sexual violence I have to say these statistics are complete lies made up by people with agendas to their own extreme causes.

Your ignorance is astounding. Do you really believe the majority of women who have been assaulted share this info with their entire social circle? Many people tell no-one, or tell only a partner or close friend.

token101 · 21-04-2013 9:45am

Wabbit Ears wrote: »

Considering I know a fair few people and only a very small minority of them have experienced sexual violence I have to say these statistics are complete lies made up by people with agendas to their own extreme causes.

And the opening line from the OP's Swedish link reads:

Sweden has imported huge numbers of Muslim immigrants with catastrophic effect.

I stopped reading there but I'd be relatively confident the rest is bollocks.

namloc1980 · 21-04-2013 9:47am

Yet another thread demonising men. Seems to be a bit of a trend lately.

21-04-2013 10:03am

namloc1980 wrote: »

Yet another thread demonising men. Seems to be a bit of a trend lately.

There's a difference between demonising sexual predators, and demonising men as a whole gender.

token101 · 21-04-2013 10:06am

Candie wrote: »

There's a difference between demonising sexual predators, and demonising men as a whole gender.

When you say 1 in 3 US women has been the subject of "sexual violence", then no, no there isn't.

21-04-2013 10:09am

token101 wrote: »

When you say 1 in 3 US women has been the subject of "sexual violence", then no, no there isn't.

That doesn't demonise any man who isn't the perpetrator of sexual violence. So no, it doesn't.

tunedout · 21-04-2013 10:12am

Sadly, it seems in todays world, a woman who goes out and gets very drunk and ends up riding her friend who she would never have rode otherwise considers herself to have been sexually assaulted.

Fukuyama · 21-04-2013 10:20am

I've had my ass grabbed, crotch groped etc... unwanted advances that got waaayyy to close for my liking by women.

Would not consider myself to have been sexually assaulted though.

Anyone who has their ass groped and considers themselves a 'survivor' needs to cop on tbh.

Akrasia · 21-04-2013 10:24am

The link in the op is from an organisation called 'women against organised rape'.

They don't even have their own Wikipedia page.

Not the most trustworthy source imaginable.

token101 · 21-04-2013 10:25am

Candie wrote: »

That doesn't demonise any man who isn't the perpetrator of sexual violence. So no, it doesn't.

Of course it does FFS. If you're pulling some statistic out of the air saying that one in every three women has been attacked then logic dictates, even accounting for serial offenders, that a very high proportion of men is a violent sexual predator. I'd calling that demonising an entire gender.

Lou.m · 21-04-2013 10:26am

kneemos wrote: »

I think they need some new terminology,a slap on the bum is sexual assault,most people think of something more serious when they hear the term.

No it isn't legally. And what to stupid thing to say.

Illinois State law defines sexual assault as:

Sexual penetration by force or threat of force or an act of sexual penetration when the victim was unable to understand the nature of the act or was unable to give knowing consent. (720 ILCS 5 Criminal Code of 1961 §12-13)

It covers anything from unwanted touching to rape ...

And 1 in4 women in Sweden will be RAPED...

And 1 in 4 college women in the US report surviving rape or attempted rape.
http://www.oneinfourusa.org/statistics.php

A third of girls in the UK under 18 report being the victim of sexual violence. 16% of boys under 18 in the UK report being the victims of sexual violence.

..and anyway unwanted fondling...of course that's not serious at all is it ?

Society in Denial

And the stats of male rape in prisons are very alarming.

Slap on the bum my arse.

Lou.m · 21-04-2013 10:35am

token101 wrote: »

Of course it does FFS. If you're pulling some statistic out of the air saying that one in every three women has been attacked then logic dictates, even accounting for serial offenders, that a very high proportion of men is a violent sexual predator. I'd calling that demonising an entire gender.

I don't care what you call it quite frankly.

I care just as much about male victims as female victims and worry just as much about female perpetrators.

And what about the 16 % of boys under 18 in the uk reporting being the victims of sexual violence is that demonizing too?

In the US 1 in every 10 victims is male.
Prison rape stats are higher....and no one even seems to care or make an effort to change that it is just accepted.

Lou.m · 21-04-2013 10:38am

token101 wrote: »

Of course it does FFS. If you're pulling some statistic out of the air saying that one in every three women has been attacked then logic dictates, even accounting for serial offenders, that a very high proportion of men is a violent sexual predator. I'd calling that demonising an entire gender.

What has it got to do with their gender anyway???

Lou.m · 21-04-2013 10:41am

And of course people are more concerned with the 'Image of men' than women and men being raped....which is why society is screwed

ScumLord · 21-04-2013 10:46am

Lou.m wrote: »

Can we change the human species? It would be horrible to think this is just something humans do.

No person is born civilised, it's learned behaviour that's taken us thousands of years to develop.

Lou.m wrote: »

And 1 in4 women in Sweden will be RAPED...

I find that a very strange way of putting it. It's almost like a threat.

Fukuyama · 21-04-2013 10:54am

Lou.m wrote: »

No it isn't legally. And what to stupid thing to say.

Illinois State law defines sexual assault as:

Sexual penetration by force or threat of force or an act of sexual penetration when the victim was unable to understand the nature of the act or was unable to give knowing consent. (720 ILCS 5 Criminal Code of 1961 §12-13)

It covers anything from unwanted touching to rape ...

And 1 in4 women in Sweden will be RAPED...

And 1 in 4 college women in the US report surviving rape or attempted rape.
http://www.oneinfourusa.org/statistics.php

A third of girls in the UK under 18 report being the victim of sexual violence. 16% of boys under 18 in the UK report being the victims of sexual violence.

..and anyway unwanted fondling...of course that's not serious at all is it ?

Society in Denial

And the stats of male rape in prisons are very alarming.

Slap on the bum my arse.

We've had a couple of threads on this in the past few days and it seems a lot of people think being groped = rape.

It depends on the situation.

Like a vulnerable person (child, disabled person etc...) being touched by their teacher, carer whatever obviously qualifies as sexual assault.

However, in the other thread, a girl said she had her ass grabbed by some drunken idiot on the street as he walked by with his mates. Obviously wrong to do but the two scenarios are light years away from one another.

The second one is easily brushed off in a matter of seconds.

RustyNut · 21-04-2013 10:54am

Lies, damned lies, and statistics...

Fukuyama · 21-04-2013 10:58am

Lou.m wrote: »

And of course people are more concerned with the 'Image of men' than women and men being raped....which is why society is screwed

I think people are questioning whether your statistics are valid, and whether they consider drunken antics, crossed wires between people etc... to be sexual assault.

And I think, if they do, it just diminishes the seriousness of actual sexual assault crimes. AKA. Rape, molestation,

Fr_Fitzexactly · 21-04-2013 10:58am

Jaysus tis an awful wirreld we live in

abdul 1995 · 21-04-2013 11:03am

Lou.m wrote: »

http://www.woar.org/resources/sexual-assault-statistics.php

In the US 1 in 3 women will be sexually assaulted. In Sweden 1 in 4 women will be raped. http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/1-in-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-as-sexual-assaults-increase-500/ Strangely the Muslim community in Sweden represented 77% of the reported cases. I am not sure about the statistics for male rape or child abuse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
In the UK 16 % of boys 13- 18 have experienced sexual violence.
In the UK one third that is 1 in 3 girls 13-18 have experienced sexual violence.

In the UK 12% of boys and 3% of girls self reported committing sexual violence against their own partners.
Can we change society?

Can we change the human species? It would be horrible to think this is just something humans do. It is quite sick. How is it stopped?

Interesting an expert on Date rape and the narcissism of rapists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lisak

how is it stopped, i dont think it can, a culture that encourages girls to go out in mini-skirts is gonna have a high rape statistic don you think

Fukuyama · 21-04-2013 11:05am

:mad:

abdul 1995 wrote: »

how is it stopped, i dont think it can, a culture that encourages girls to go out in mini-skirts is gonna have a high rape statistic don you think

I was kind of going against what the OP was saying.

But your post want to make me forget about logic and reason, come to your house, and bash your head in with a baseball bat.

abdul 1995 · 21-04-2013 11:06am

Dean0088 wrote: »

:mad:

I was kind of going against what the OP was saying.

But your post want to make me forget about logic and reason, come to your house, and bash your head in with a baseball bat.

haha your very welcome i can even give u my adress if u want then well see whos head will be bashed

biko · 21-04-2013 11:09am

abdul 1995 wrote: »

how is it stopped, i dont think it can, a culture that encourages girls to go out in mini-skirts is gonna have a high rape statistic don you think

A girl should be able to walk down the street naked, it still doesn't give anyone the right to rape her abdul.

up for anything · 21-04-2013 11:10am

tunedout wrote: »

Sadly, it seems in todays world, a woman who goes out and gets very drunk and ends up riding her friend who she would never have rode otherwise considers herself to have been sexually assaulted.

Sounds like a bit of personal bitterness there.

I think most women who have done that chalk it up to experience and try never to get to that level of drunkenness again, avoid the friend, and cringe whenever they remember it in the future or else they just pass it off as a WTF was I thinking moment and forget about it and resume friendly relations. I know I've done both.

There is a big difference between ending up drunk and voluntarily 'riding a friend' and ending up incapacitated by alcohol and discovering 'a friend' has taken advantage of your comatose state - when it gets to that point you realise that your friend was never really a friend.

In America 1 in 3 women will be sexually assualted in her lifetime

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