Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Man Pays €60 Motor Tax Fine With 6,000 1c Coins

Options
1246789

Comments

  • Options
    #92
    Max Power
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    Just because they don't have to accept over 50 coins does not make it illegal tender so to speak.


  • Options
    #93
    vektarman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭vektarman


    FionnMcCool87 wrote: »
    I'm sorry I started this bloody thread now!

    Naw, this beats going to the pub.....:)


  • Options
    #94
    krudler
    Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Would you rather have 6000 1c coin sized ducks, or one duck sized 1c coin.


    Wait...what's this thread about again?


  • Options
    #95
    4zn76tysfajdxp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    Such nonsense! Where in the constitution is that paragraph, I must have missed it... ..

    When did you last read the constitution anyway?
    FionnMcCool87 wrote: »
    Just because they don't have to accept over 50 coins does not make it illegal tender so to speak.

    The straws. You are grasping at them.


  • Options
    #96
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    At the end of the day, if I offered €200,000 for a house and the offer was accepted and legally binding - then I produce €200,000 in 5c coins - they legally must accept my payment as the deal has been signed and coins are legal currency for repayment of debit.
    Yea coins are... 40,000 of them as a single payment aren't. It's not that hard to comprehend!


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #97
    Morph the Cat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    At the end of the day, if I offered €200,000 for a house and the offer was accepted and legally binding - then I produce €200,000 in 5c coins - they legally must accept my payment as the deal has been signed and coins are legal currency for repayment of debit.

    That may be so (even though it's not - but Ill humour you), but everyone would think you're a knob. So work away - do your thing.


  • Options
    #98
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Morph the Cat wrote: »
    If a company has invoices due to be paid, especially from government bodies, the banks will allow you leeway. I know this firsthand. And banks don't "call in their overdraft" - an overdraft is a facility - not a loan to be repaid by a certain date. So the specifics you gave don't even make sense. It's all hearsay.


    According to ISME state agencies are among the worst offenders when it comes to late payments.
    ISME also published the SME Credit Watch Winter Survey at the seminar. According to Fielding, “the latest figures clearly show the effect that late payments are having on SMEs, caught in a vicious cycle of non-payment from large businesses and Government agencies. The main offenders are, as usual, the state agencies and big business where delays continue to put massive pressure on SMEs.The Government refuses to tackle this issue, as businesses go to the wall and jobs are lost because of totally inadequate legislation.”


  • Options
    #99
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,743 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    COYVB wrote: »
    Nobody is under any obligation to take any amount of coins I believe, or any amount of notes for that matter

    The subject of legal tender has been done to death over on the Consumer forum many times. You are correct except where a debt has been created.

    For instance if you eat a meal in a restaurant and present a €500 note in payment it is legal tender because a debt has been created. If the owner refuses it you can walk out.

    But if you go up to the counter in a shop and offer a €100 note or any note or coins for a bar of chocolate the shopkeeper can refuse it and lose the sale.


  • Options
    #100
    7 7 12
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭7 7 12


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    The subject of legal tender has been done to death over on the Consumer forum many times. You are correct except where a debt has been created.

    For instance if you eat a meal in a restaurant and present a €500 note in payment it is legal tender because a debt has been created. If the owner refuses it you can walk out.

    But if you go up to the counter in a shop and offer a €100 note or any note or coins for a bar of chocolate the shopkeeper can refuse it and lose the sale.


    Yes, this is what I'm trying to say for example if you buy a house a debit has been created and to settle they must accept 40,000 5c coins if that's what you produce. (the important part is bolded)

    Otherwise if they don't accept your coins then from a legal standpoint you essentially receive the house for free as the debit is written off.


  • Options
    #101
    Morph the Cat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    Yes, this is what I'm trying to say for example if you buy a house a debit has been created and to settle they must accept 40,000 5c coins if that's what you produce. (the important part is bolded)

    Otherwise if they don't accept your coins then from a legal standpoint you essentially receive the house for free as the debit is written off.

    Do it then, and get a free house. Do it 10 times. The important part is bolded - they HAVE to accept it!!!! You seem so smart. How long did you study law for?

    F*cking stupid people....


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #102
    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    Yes, this is what I'm trying to say for example if you buy a house a debit has been created and to settle they must accept 40,000 5c coins if that's what you produce. (the important part is bolded)

    Otherwise if they don't accept your coins then from a legal standpoint you essentially receive the house for free as the debit is written off.
    If a debt is already created, the person owed the money must accept legal tender. If there is more than 50 coins in one transaction, it is not legal tender

    Boardsie Enhancement Suite - a browser extension to make using Boards on desktop a better experience (includes full-width display, keyboard shortcuts, dark mode, and more). Now available through your browser's extension store.

    Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/boardsie-enhancement-suite/

    Chrome/Edge/Opera: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/boardsie-enhancement-suit/bbgnmnfagihoohjkofdnofcfmkpdmmce



  • Options
    #103
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    At the end of the day, if I offered €200,000 for a house and the offer was accepted and legally binding - then I produce €200,000 in 5c coins - they legally must accept my payment as the deal has been signed and coins are legal currency for repayment of debit.

    I don't think that's the case


  • Options
    #104
    RidleyRider
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    Since when can traffic wardens do you for tax?


  • Options
    #105
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    RidleyRider wrote: »
    Since when can traffic wardens do you for tax?
    For a good while now.


  • Options
    #106
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    Yup, it's a fixed fine for non-display of tax.


  • Options
    #107
    Max Power
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    RidleyRider wrote: »
    Since when can traffic wardens do you for tax?
    Not sure of the exact date but they have being doing it for a while now.


  • Options
    #108
    RidleyRider
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    Yawns wrote: »
    Yup, it's a fixed fine for non-display of tax.

    Say your tax runs out and the disc is in the post, can it be disputed?


  • Options
    #109
    Max Power
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    RidleyRider wrote: »
    Say your tax runs out and the disc is in the post, can it be disputed?
    You can but you'd be laughed at. If there's no valid tax disc on your windscreen they will fine you. How are they supposed to know it's taxed if there's no valid tax disc on the windscreen. You will be fined for "non-display of a valid tax disc".


  • Options
    #110
    orestes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    Yes, this is what I'm trying to say for example if you buy a house a debit has been created and to settle they must accept 40,000 5c coins if that's what you produce. (the important part is bolded)

    Otherwise if they don't accept your coins then from a legal standpoint you essentially receive the house for free as the debit is written off.

    Are you sure you didn't get this scheme off a Scooby-Doo cartoon?


  • Options
    #111
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    Not if you're in a public place. But if you catch a judge on a good day and show you paid the tax, they can let it go. They don't have to tho.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #112
    7 7 12
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭7 7 12


    RidleyRider wrote: »

    Say your tax runs out and the disc is in the post, can it be disputed?
    Yes you just bring the updated disk into local Garda station and the fine is deleted off the system happened my mate a few years ago


  • Options
    #113
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    Course it did ;)


  • Options
    #114
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    What's the next topic change going to be?


  • Options
    #115
    7 7 12
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭7 7 12


    Yawns wrote: »
    Not if you're in a public place. But if you catch a judge on a good day and show you paid the tax, they can let it go. They don't have to tho.
    This is another nonsense post on this thread, just because an invalid tax disk not present what's important is the car is taxed or not


  • Options
    #116
    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    RidleyRider wrote: »
    Say your tax runs out and the disc is in the post, can it be disputed?
    There are two separate offences. One is not having tax on your car. This is a serious offence, and your car can be impounded. The other is "non-display of your tax disc". This is an on-the-spot €60 fine

    Boardsie Enhancement Suite - a browser extension to make using Boards on desktop a better experience (includes full-width display, keyboard shortcuts, dark mode, and more). Now available through your browser's extension store.

    Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/boardsie-enhancement-suite/

    Chrome/Edge/Opera: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/boardsie-enhancement-suit/bbgnmnfagihoohjkofdnofcfmkpdmmce



  • Options
    #117
    Gee_G
    Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Gee_G


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    This is another nonsense post on this thread, just because an invalid tax disk not present what's important is the car is taxed or not
    Might be important to you but all the Gardai or traffic warden care about is if it's displayed!


  • Options
    #118
    Max Power
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    This is another nonsense post on this thread, just because an invalid tax disk not present what's important is the car is taxed or not
    Why would one tax their car and then not display it?


  • Options
    #119
    orestes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Yawns wrote: »
    What's the next topic change going to be?

    Penguins? Everybody loves penguins.


  • Options
    #120
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    I'll admit it. From the first post I thought you were going to be one of those terrible re-regged trolls, but at least by your 8th post you've shown a more subtle way of trolling. Instead of just throwing it all out there, you're trying one step at a time.

    Your rating went from a D- for effort from post #1 to a c+ til now. Keep it up. You gotta show your work tho, not just the answer!


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #121
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    orestes wrote: »
    Penguins? Everybody loves penguins.

    Oh yes that's a good one! What's the best way to cook a penguin?


Advertisement