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Who is your favourite politician and what are your political values?

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    #62
    Markcheese
    Registered Users Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    over the past few years it would be the late Brian lenehan. tried his hardest and was an excellent communicator but that pox cowen shafted him

    if he had led his party maybe things would be different

    What a lovely simple view, I think we were shafted before Cowan came in , maybe in a different party or different time he'd have been a great political leader, maybe lots of things....
    My favourite politican will be the one who digs us out of this crap hole we put dug ourselves into....( we voted our great leaders in )
    I'd be kind of right leaning, personal responsibility... But not" hang them all and blame the ........" still believe in a welfare state but think it's a privilege not a right....

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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    #63
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,021 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Never ceses to amaze me when people say they like and amdire the politicans that shafted us and want more...

    It's live listening to criminals saying that reducing the number of gardai would be a good thing for the country.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #64
    Yamanoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    I fundamentally disagree with Higgins and Boyd-Barrett on practically everything, but they're clearly men of integrity. At this stage, I'd settle for that.

    Also feel the British public's Euroscepticism has been proved right. When the sh1tstorm blows over, the people of Europe themselves should be given a real opportunity to have a say in the framing of the future union. The fact that's so unthinkable, tells us everything we need to know about the anti-democratic character of those who steer the ship in Brussels.


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    #65
    upandcumming
    Registered Users Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    Christine Lagarde.


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    #66
    Monty Burnz
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    Yamanoto wrote: »
    I fundamentally disagree with Higgins and Boyd-Barrett on practically everything, but they're clearly men of integrity. At this stage, I'd settle for that.
    Boyd-Barrett certainly showed his integrity when he came out in support of those millionaire property investors who were refusing to leave the house that they lost ownership of two years ago for not paying their mortgage...
    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Also feel the British public's Euroscepticism has been proved right. When the sh1tstorm blows over, the people of Europe themselves should be given a real opportunity to have a say in the framing of the future union. The fact that's so unthinkable, tells us everything we need to know about the anti-democratic character of those who steer the ship in Brussels.
    You also have to factor in the fact that the average voter is far too stupid or too lazy to read up on or understand the various EU treaties or understand the purpose of the EU beyond not having to show a passport when travelling in the Schengen zone. Is this the fault of the politicians or the public?


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    #67
    mikemac1
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    true wrote: »
    Mrs Thatcher - Argentian military regime responsible for thousands of disappeared ( defeated ),

    But you've no problem with Pinochet and his regime?
    Fond of flying dissidents out over the ocean and then throwing them out of aeroplanes


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    #68
    Born to Die
    Closed Accounts Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Born to Die


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Fond of flying dissidents out over the ocean and then throwing them out of aeroplanes

    That's an idea for what to do with the bog cutters.


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    #69
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    I believe in the free market. I believe in capitalism. I believe in the free movement of free peoples. I believe in private property. I believe in the individual (because you're Irish means nothing to me) - you should be judged by the content of your character. I believe you have a right to do whatever you please so long as it doesn't intrude on anyone else.

    Politician? Ron Paul.
    Sounds like a lot of 'beliefs' there, sure you wouldn't be be better off starting a religion/cult or something:pac:

    As for Libertarianism and Ron Paul, yes he's very right wing economically but it's stretching it to call him socially left.


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    #70
    Chuck Stone
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    I would describe my politics as 'anti-privilege'.

    A absolutely loathe right-wing authoritarian conservatism.

    I'm attracted to the personal freedom and anti-war aspect libertarianism. The economics of libertarianism sounds good but I'm of the mind that it could polarise wealth/power in the hands of the few which would mean it was doomed (I believe in conflict theory).

    I believe all drugs, prostitution and abortion* should be legal.

    *With very strict time limits that ensured a fetus wouldn't suffer.


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    #71
    Yamanoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Boyd-Barrett certainly showed his integrity when he came out in support of those millionaire property investors who were refusing to leave the house that they lost ownership of two years ago for not paying their mortgage...

    Had he prior knowledge of the Killiney couples duplicity? If so, sure, his integrity can be questioned.

    His judgement is a different matter.
    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    You also have to factor in the fact that the average voter is far too stupid or too lazy to read up on or understand the various EU treaties or understand the purpose of the EU beyond not having to show a passport when travelling in the Schengen zone. Is this the fault of the politicians or the public?

    Democracy's for the dumb too remember. Whether you perceive that as a flaw or not is your call.

    Apathy is a problem no doubt, though apportioning blame on one sector over another would seem to me a fiendishly difficult endeavour.


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    #72
    Jesus Wept
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    Dustin.


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    #73
    LH Pathe
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    Left Wing / Ming.

    where's me Mingers at


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    #74
    Doc Ruby
    Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    [An extraterrestrial robot and spaceship has just landed on earth. The robot steps out of the spaceship...]

    "I come in peace," it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, "take me to your Lizard."

    Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.

    "It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."

    "You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"

    "No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like to straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."

    "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."

    "I did," said ford. "It is."

    "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"

    "It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."

    "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

    "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

    "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

    "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"

    "What?"

    "I said," said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"

    "I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."

    Ford shrugged again.

    "Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them," he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."


    RIP Doug, the finest of us, and truer today than it ever was.


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    #75
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    ripcurl105 wrote: »
    no foreigners
    take back our country
    thatcherism
    no more nigerians or knackers or gypsies
    simples
    then we have a pure clean society

    mod: banned.
    didnt mean to thank him but theres alot of people who are very unhappy with the way things are,


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    #76
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    really like who ?


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    #77
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    like you


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    #78
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    like me ?


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    #79
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    like me or like you


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    #80
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    who you talking too


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    #81
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    im talking to me


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    #82
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    what ye on about


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    #83
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    time for noddy land


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    #84
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    see ye in the morning pal


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    #85
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    I just wish Chuck Norris was a politician- he'd sort this recession out- roundhouse kick to the chops!


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    #86
    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    whatdoicare wrote: »
    I just wish Chuck Norris was a politician- he'd sort this recession out- roundhouse kick to the chops!

    peadophile


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    #87
    BOHtox
    Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Sounds like a lot of 'beliefs' there, sure you wouldn't be be better off starting a religion/cult or something:pac:

    As for Libertarianism and Ron Paul, yes he's very right wing economically but it's stretching it to call him socially left.

    He's for abortion, gay marriage, the legalisation of all drugs etc.
    How isn't he?


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    #88
    Pedant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Pedant


    Political values: On the fence between libertarian minarchist and libertarian anarchist. I support Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises and F. A. Hayek when it comes to the economy. I'm also a fan of J. Locke, Adam Smith, M. Rothbard, Ayn Rand and Aristotle. My views on liberty cross over into my social views. I believe that individual liberties should be an absolute reflection of natural (or negative) rights. This means I'm for gay marriage (being gay myself), abortion (only for a fixed duration at the beginning of the pregnancy), legalisation of drugs, etc...

    Favourite politicians: At the moment, Ron Paul. In Ireland, Shane Ross comes close.


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    #89
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,021 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    luckyfrank wrote: »
    didnt mean to thank him but theres alot of people who are very unhappy with the way things are,

    In what way?

    Most people are unhappy with the economy, but as I said, praise the principles that led to the economy and the politicans, but what has that got to do with immigration? Were the corrupt bankers and developes Nigerian? Or of gypsy origin?

    The only politician that got mentioend was Thartcher, and she very much agreed with a low-regulation economy that led to the situation we find ourselves in.

    The only difference between her and McCreevy/Ahearne was that they over indulged the public sector, but they only did that for votes, not for any long term national interest, as has been proven.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #90
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    ripcurl105 wrote: »
    I am extremely right-leaning. I believe in little goverment power over the people, a Laissez-faire market, little as possible taxation, slashed public service, reinstatement of religion in schools an dclassroom led prayer. Super strict immigration, ie, everyone entering is fingerprinted and photographed at the border and passport number is filed. Immigrants commiting crimes are deported permanently and blocked from country (where the fingerprints come in).
    Respect fo relderly and pride in the nation and more respect for Gardaí and army.

    I may be a bit off, but most of your "right leaning" views seem to be more in line with the Republican Party in America than any particular right leaning party in Ireland.

    Edit : Oh, he's banned. Shocker.


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    #91
    John Doe1
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    Vladimir Putin

    Anti-Turksih Occupation of Northern Cyprus:)


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