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Heineken Cup - General Discussion Thread

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    #422
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Treviso very unlucky there. Very surprised that the Ospreys didn't go for the win, basically condemning themselves to getting a result in Saracens or Biarritz.


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    #423
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,206 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Need this conversion for a bonus point.


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    #424
    DDC1990
    Registered Users Posts: 10,363 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    ongarite wrote: »
    Need this conversion for a bonus point.
    Nope its 7 Points anyway,

    EDIT: It went over. 15-10


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    #425
    wixfjord
    Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Fair ****s Sarries.
    That could be big.

    Most of the pools are wide open!

    Owen Farrell could be some star.


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    #426
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,206 ✭✭✭ongarite


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Nope its 7 Points anyway,

    OK, lovely conversion anyway.


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    #427
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Now it's between Saracens and Biarritz in that pool, unless Treviso can beat one of them. Judging by today, I wouldn't put it past them.


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    #428
    iroced
    Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭iroced


    Maybe a starting point for Biarritz season... But for HEC perspective this "crazy" foul 5s to the end (how come they couldn't secure their pick and go for a little more time?!) that gave the ball back to the Saracens and lead to their try and defensive bonus point, may hit them back in a couple of months as it looks like it's gonna be a very close group.


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    #429
    Teferi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    "The secret to success in the Heineken Cup is getting out of your pool"

    I have no words for how dumb that sentence is.


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    #430
    greendom
    Registered Users Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    Teferi wrote: »
    "The secret to success in the Heineken Cup is getting out of your pool"

    I have no words for how dumb that sentence is.

    Who was the culprit ?:D


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    #431
    David900
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭David900


    I don't think its possible but does anyone know if you can watch the other matches from the red button on sky player on your computer?


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    #432
    Teferi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    greendom wrote: »
    Who was the culprit ?:D

    Paul Wallace. His articles are normally grand but I've seen him make a few gaffes when he is on TV.


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    #433
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    David900 wrote: »
    I don't think its possible but does anyone know if you can watch the other matches from the red button on sky player on your computer?

    No.


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    #434
    Teferi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    David900 wrote: »
    I don't think its possible but does anyone know if you can watch the other matches from the red button on sky player on your computer?

    Pretty sure you can if you have an iPad. Dunno about towers or laptops though.


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    #435
    tolosenc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    tolosenc wrote: »
    The consistency with which Northampton score points is terrifying. Leaving out their games against Embra in the pools last year, they scored:

    18 vs Castres
    23 vs Cardiff
    23 vs Cardiff
    23 vs Castres
    23 vs Ulster
    23 vs Perpignan
    22 vs Leinster
    21 vs Munster

    Basically, if you can get to about 25 against them, you're golden.

    23 again this round... Seriously, can I bet on them scoring 20-25 points?


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    #436
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    I wish sky would shut up in their commentary about losing bonus points. You shouldn't even bother going to the Airport if you're not going for a win. The only time accepting a losing bonus point (or a draw if you're in a situation like Ospreys today, accepting a draw in Clermont would be fine) is good is if you're in the last 2 rounds and you know it's all you need, like Leinster against Wasps in 2009. I remember last year they praised Munster for a losing BP at LI, though you could clearly see they were very unhappy about losing. It allows teams to spin losing as a good result. They talk about losing BPs as if they're the be all and end all of the tournament. I'm glad Leinster don't play like this is the case.


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    #437
    durkadurka
    Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    I've watched Leinster play for a lbp when they couldn't win a match. It can make all the difference. Only sensible really.
    It only comes into play if you find yourself 10 down with a few minutes to play.


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    #438
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,559 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Teferi wrote: »
    "The secret to success in the Heineken Cup is getting out of your pool"

    I have no words for how dumb that sentence is.

    In fairness to Paul he is on rock solid ground with that statement!

    I think he was trying to say always getting at least a losing bonus point was the key to getting out of your pool, but got a bit befuddled.


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    #439
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    copacetic wrote: »
    In fairness to Paul he is on rock solid ground with that statement!

    I think he was trying to say losing bonus points were the key to getting out of your pool, but got a bit befuddled.

    Which is my point exactly on the losing bonus points. The key to getting out of your pool is winning, simple as.


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    #440
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,559 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    matthew8 wrote: »
    Which is my point exactly on the losing bonus points. The key to getting out of your pool is winning, simple as.

    That's like something inane and meaningless that Paul himself would say. Of course winning games is key. However, time and time again the top teams in the pool beat each oher at home and are separated by the bonus points from those games.


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    #441
    Burgo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Burgo


    20 mins in Bath 13 - 0 Montpellier. Donald is having a great game so far.

    Trin-Duc off injured.


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    #442
    jacothelad
    Registered Users Posts: 5,910 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Burgo wrote: »
    20 mins in Bath 13 - 0 Montpellier. Donald is having a great game so far.

    Trin-Duc off injured.
    Not injured. Carded


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    #443
    yimrsg
    Registered Users Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    Francois Louw is a really good poacher in the backrow for Bath.


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    #444
    wixfjord
    Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Try for Montpellier, with two forward passes in it possibly.

    16-8 conversion to come.

    Would like Mont to win this imo.


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    #445
    Big Nelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    Nice try Montpellier, would love to see them win!!!


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    #446
    durkadurka
    Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Who do we want to win?


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    #447
    Big Nelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Who do we want to win?

    Montpellier, will kill bath confidence. Then we wipe the floor with Bath in next 2 matchs and get out of group miles ahead!:P


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    #448
    wixfjord
    Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Who do we want to win?

    Montpellier I'd say because it would all but put Bath out with the Aviva to come, and we've Mont at home last.


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    #449
    Big Nelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    Funny kicking style from Montpellier kicker!!!

    Can't listen to pro English crap anymore on Sky!!!


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    #450
    wixfjord
    Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Big Nelly wrote: »
    Funny kicking style from Montpellier kicker!!!

    Can't listen to pro English crap anymore on Sky!!!

    Robson is unbearable at times.


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    #451
    wixfjord
    Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Don't care what people say, Donald is a classy player.
    No shame not being Dan Carter.


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