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Speed camera mega-thread ***Read first post before posting***

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    #2312
    Andrew33
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Andrew33


    Our man in Havana wrote: »
    4 months.

    Interesting, Traffic division told me I'd have it within 10-12 days if I'd been detected exceeding the limit.


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    #2313
    robbie_998
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    That Garda van is always there along the quay next to guiness ..... Does be hiding behind trucks along the right hand side too.


    I treat that road like there's a permanent speed camera on it... 50kph all the way.

    Can't wait for people to overtake me and get ripped


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    #2314
    Wolverine_1999
    Registered Users Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Wolverine_1999


    robbie_998 wrote: »
    Can't wait for people to overtake me and get ripped

    That's not nice :(


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    #2315
    Wexfordian
    Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    Couple of statistics from Garda website (these may have been mentioned before, if so apologies):

    Total tickets issued in 2010 for speeding: 157k
    Total tickets issued to June 2011 for speeding: 160k (so will more then double this year)

    Penalties issued for other offences remain broadly the same (though mobile fines up slightly)

    Total deaths to 9/11/10 196
    Total deaths to 9/11/11 159

    Not definitive of course, the death rate has been falling since the RSA was set up in 2005, but interesting.

    Source


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    #2316
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,159 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    runjb wrote: »
    Just driving out of dublin along the quays tonight. Passed a garda van, parallel with another car and there was a flash. Does that mean we were caught?

    I was going max 55km in a 50km zone.. Do they flash automatically or?

    I was on the quays this morning doing about 40 and I saw a flash ahead. The guy ahead was going much faster - does anyone know if 'your' flash comes as you pass or before you get to them?
    I'm hoping it was for him, not in a schadenfreude kind of way. I'm never clear when you're supposed to be out of the 35 zone on the quays.


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    #2317
    Andrew33
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Andrew33


    Wexfordian wrote: »

    Not definitive of course, the death rate has been falling since the RSA was set up in 2005, but interesting.

    Source

    While it's great that the death rate is falling, the RSA shouldn't be slapping themselves on the back too enthusiastically for it, the numbers of road users has tumbled year on year since 2007 and our population is a couple of hundred thousand less now too. I reckon the rate is pretty much near as low as it's going to go and should remain relatively static for the next couple of years.


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    #2318
    Wexfordian
    Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    Andrew33 wrote: »
    While it's great that the death rate is falling, the RSA shouldn't be slapping themselves on the back too enthusiastically for it, the numbers of road users has tumbled year on year since 2007 and our population is a couple of hundred thousand less now too. I reckon the rate is pretty much near as low as it's going to go and should remain relatively static for the next couple of years.

    Blow me but the figures are hard to track down, but insofar as I can find official figures, they are:

    Billion passengers per km
    2006 52.04
    2007 54.77
    2008 56.59

    Doesn't include haulage, and doesn't seem to be figures for 09 and 10. But certainly up to 08 they weren't tumbling, in fact they were increasing by circa 2 billion pkm per annum.

    Source

    As for population estimate figures of population change are ('000):

    2007 +106.1
    2008 +83.1
    2009 +37.1
    2010 +11.4

    a net increase in population of a couple of hundred thousand.

    Source


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    #2319
    Andrew33
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Andrew33


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    Blow me but the figures are hard to track down, but insofar as I can find official figures, they are:

    Billion passengers per km
    2006 52.04
    2007 54.77
    2008 56.59

    Doesn't include haulage, and doesn't seem to be figures for 09 and 10. But certainly up to 08 they weren't tumbling, in fact they were increasing by circa 2 billion pkm per annum.

    Source

    As for population estimate figures of population change are ('000):

    2007 +106.1
    2008 +83.1
    2009 +37.1
    2010 +11.4

    a net increase in population of a couple of hundred thousand.

    Source

    I'll concede the point up to 2008 but every dog on the street knows there's less journeys being made (450,000 less people commuting to work adds up to a huge amount of lost pkm).

    There is practically zero construction traffic (responsible for a lot of deaths and injuries on the roads during the boom years).
    The haulage industry has pretty much collapsed!

    I think we can accept that since 2008 the level of traffic has plummeted and this has contributed most to the fall in death rates.

    As to the population figures, it's hard to know, it was claimed that during the boom years there were up to a half a million illegals in the country, they've mostly all moved on to better economic climates so in real terms the population has fallen.

    Rgds


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    #2320
    I.S.T.
    Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭I.S.T.


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    Not definitive of course, the death rate has been falling since the RSA was set up in 2005, but interesting.

    Source

    The death rate has always been falling, nothing to do with the RSA being set up:

    DeathsPerMillionRegVehicles.gif


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    #2321
    Honey-ec
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    Anyone know what the legality of a Go Safe van being stopped in the hard shoulder of a motorway is?

    Passed one on the M9 yesterday morning, just between Kilcullen and the M7 merge. I had the cruise control on and it was set to 129 kmh. I'm really hoping I wasn't done. Didn't see a flash, but I know that doesn't necessarily mean anything.


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    #2322
    Wolverine_1999
    Registered Users Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Wolverine_1999


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    Anyone know what the legality of a Go Safe van being stopped in the hard shoulder of a motorway is?

    Passed one on the M9 yesterday morning, just between Kilcullen and the M7 merge. I had the cruise control on and it was set to 129 kmh. I'm really hoping I wasn't done. Didn't see a flash, but I know that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

    On a motorway? That's just taking the pi**.

    Good point and why should it be legal for them if it isn't for us? Not exactly an emergency..


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    #2323
    Andrew33
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Andrew33


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    Anyone know what the legality of a Go Safe van being stopped in the hard shoulder of a motorway is?

    Passed one on the M9 yesterday morning, just between Kilcullen and the M7 merge. I had the cruise control on and it was set to 129 kmh. I'm really hoping I wasn't done. Didn't see a flash, but I know that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

    Do you not know that laws and regulations are only for the little people and don't apply to the states revenue collectors??
    You should be ok at 129 but would you not set your cruise to 125 in future just to be safe? 4kph isn't going to save you a huge amount of time on your overall journey.


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    #2324
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    Anyone know what the legality of a Go Safe van being stopped in the hard shoulder of a motorway is?

    Passed one on the M9 yesterday morning, just between Kilcullen and the M7 merge. I had the cruise control on and it was set to 129 kmh. I'm really hoping I wasn't done. Didn't see a flash, but I know that doesn't necessarily mean anything.


    they are not allowed to stop on a motorway. Cause they are civillian operated. guards are the only ones allowed to do so
    Parking on the hard shoulder is only permitted in the event of a breakdown or medical emergency, driving on the hard shoulder will incur one penalty point and an €80 fine.


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    #2325
    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    Blow me but the figures are hard to track down, but insofar as I can find official figures, they are:

    Billion passengers per km
    2006 52.04
    2007 54.77
    2008 56.59

    Doesn't include haulage, and doesn't seem to be figures for 09 and 10. But certainly up to 08 they weren't tumbling, in fact they were increasing by circa 2 billion pkm per annum.

    Source

    As for population estimate figures of population change are ('000):

    2007 +106.1
    2008 +83.1
    2009 +37.1
    2010 +11.4

    a net increase in population of a couple of hundred thousand.

    Source
    Your source states the Irish figures are estimates only.


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    #2326
    Wexfordian
    Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    Tragedy wrote: »
    Your source states the Irish figures are estimates only.

    Yes, I said they were in the post? Probably still a better guide the anecdotal though? Not sure of your point tbh.

    Edit: Actually are you referring to the pkm figures, if so then yes looking back at the figures they are estimates but they are as near as can find to official. I did say "insofar as I can find" though...


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    #2327
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    Yes, I said they were in the post? Probably still a better guide the anecdotal though? Not sure of your point tbh.

    Edit: Actually are you referring to the pkm figures, if so then yes looking back at the figures they are estimates but they are as near as can find to official. I did say "insofar as I can find" though...


    what has this got to do with speed cameras this is a speed camera thread!!


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    #2328
    Wexfordian
    Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    JamesBond2010 wrote: »
    what has this got to do with speed cameras this is a speed camera thread!!

    Death Rates falling since RSA was set up and speed was targeted --> no they aren't --> yes they are --> these figures say they didn't --> etc.

    Reasonably on point I think?


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    #2329
    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    Edit: Actually are you referring to the pkm figures, if so then yes looking back at the figures they are estimates but they are as near as can find to official. I did say "insofar as I can find" though...
    Own estimates have mainly been produced to get an idea of the EU total. At the
    level of individual countries, they are merely indicative and should by no means be (mis-)interpreted as "official" data.
    Your post in no way stated they were estimates, and sounded like they were pretty definitive in refuting another poster's belief that less miles in total were being driven due to recession.
    JamesBond2010 wrote: »
    what has this got to do with speed cameras this is a speed camera thread!!
    The RSA likes to claim that all reductions in deaths/accidents/anything they like are as a result of them and their policies. Some posters buy in to this and regurgitate it on boards. Which is a pet peeve of quite a few posters.

    E.g. December 2010, when the roads were virtually impassable for most of it, AGS(and I think RSA) claimed the small amount of road deaths in that month were due to the new GoSafe vans. Not the weather.

    :rolleyes:


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    #2330
    Wexfordian
    Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    Tragedy wrote: »
    Your post in no way stated they were estimates, and sounded like they were pretty definitive in refuting another poster's belief that less miles in total were being driven due to recession.

    But you had no problem whatsoever with an unsubstantiated "gut" statement that road numbers were tumbling which was being used to definitively refute a point on the death rates? Fair enough.

    I thought the figures were an interesting point of data, I'm not getting into a heated back and forth on it though.


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    #2331
    cyclopath2001
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭cyclopath2001


    IrishSpeedTraps wrote: »
    The death rate has always been falling,
    And the injury rate? And how many people are afraid to cross the road, or ride a bicycle because of speeding drivers?

    The whole picture...please.


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    #2332
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Saw a police car pulled in here
    http://g.co/maps/b2ndd
    and a speed camera set up on that concrete driveway bit on the Naas Road outbound last week. Keep an eye on your speed along there. Was about 10pm and dark when I saw it.


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    #2333
    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    But you had no problem whatsoever with an unsubstantiated "gut" statement that road numbers were tumbling which was being used to definitively refute a point on the death rates? Fair enough.

    Someone else's mistakes don't excuse yours. You claimed facts that didn't actually exist. Just like the RSA :D


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    #2334
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    Death Rates falling since RSA was set up and speed was targeted --> no they aren't --> yes they are --> these figures say they didn't --> etc.

    Reasonably on point I think?


    no none of the statistics are true.just talking aload of bull. you gave no proof.you were only guessing about the no's u showed


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    #2335
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    cyclopath2001 wrote: »
    And the injury rate? And how many people are afraid to cross the road, or ride a bicycle because of speeding drivers?

    The whole picture...please.


    Causing trouble again:cool::cool:


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    #2336
    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    JamesBond2010 wrote: »
    Causing trouble again:cool::cool:

    Attack the post, not the poster please.


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    #2337
    Wexfordian
    Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    JamesBond2010 wrote: »
    no none of the statistics are true.just talking aload of bull. you gave no proof.you were only guessing about the no's u showed

    I wasn't going to get involved any further, but what are you on about? I've sourced all the figures I've used, even if one if the sets was actually an estimate, not official (so shoot me, I'd trawled through a lot of websites at that stage to find any data, didn't notice they were estimates). Unless you think all the websites are making up the figures for the laugh?


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    #2338
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    I wasn't going to get involved any further, but what are you on about? I've sourced all the figures I've used, even if one if the sets was actually an estimate, not official (so shoot me, I'd trawled through a lot of websites at that stage to find any data, didn't notice they were estimates). Unless you think all the websites are making up the figures for the laugh?



    you did not say that did, u said they were facts i was just telling you.
    'Actually are you referring to the pkm figures, if so then yes looking back at the figures they are estimates but they are as near as can find to official. I did say "insofar as I can find" though...'
    i thought u said you did not know they were estimates..

    would not surprise me on half the websites/ half the data on the RSA websites is wrong or out of Date by 5 to 6yrs.
    lot of roads &motorways built during then....


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    #2339
    ironclaw
    Registered Users Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    spurious wrote: »
    I was on the quays this morning doing about 40 and I saw a flash ahead. The guy ahead was going much faster - does anyone know if 'your' flash comes as you pass or before you get to them?
    I'm hoping it was for him, not in a schadenfreude kind of way. I'm never clear when you're supposed to be out of the 35 zone on the quays.

    Its as you pass them, as in when you are pretty much "on top" of them.


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    #2340
    pa990
    Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭pa990


    A general rule of thumb would be 1 car length away for lane 1, two car lengths for lane 2, 3 car lengths for lane 3 etc.

    The radar beam is directed across the road at 22 degrees and the camera lens is at the same angle


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    #2341
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users Posts: 9,703 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    I've heard that the marked vans snap your speed from the front of your car, then take a pic of the rear...is that true?

    Just curious :confused:


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