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The Daily Fail Strikes again

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    #32
    Yahew
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    Lol, the Sanguine feelings Ireland has to Russia are based on it being on the other side of Europe. Putin is a semi-dictator, Russia is a dangerous country.


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    #33
    Yahew
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    laoch na mona wrote: »
    i was taking the piss it wont happen:eek:

    I wasn't. I think it will. Who, or what, is going to stop Russia retaking Latvia if they feel that ethnic russians there are in trouble?

    Answer. Nobody.

    The war in the West is unlikely. One in the East is more likely.


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    #34
    Dotrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Dotrel


    Deleted User wrote: »
    15 people killed in Dublin? I blame Bertie.

    Nah. It was an iffy barrel of Guinness.

    Coincidentally I read that's what started the 1798 rebillion (the article was written in 1797).


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    #35
    parrai
    Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭parrai


    Some of these comments under the article are funny, but this is what this article for written for... to produce a reaction

    i have a hard time with the british army being defeated what usually happens is the IRISH show up to bail your asses out,first to be beaten up but always first to help
    - john, ma,usa, 29/10/2011 2:24
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    to much money spend on war with Iraq, Afghan, Libya and next you war each others, good
    - azhar, london, 29/10/2011 1:35
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    All those who bash the French make me laugh! What did Britain did during WW2? Run away in France and hide in Britain behind the channel until the arrival of the American troops. The French surrendered because their allies (the British) decided to run away instead of fighting. Red arrow me as long as you like but honestly, stop thinking you won the WW2 by yourselves, if it wasnt for the Americans, you would be speaking German now.
    - Paul, Dresden, 29/10/2011 10:24
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    So, we need to save the EU? Not the usual DM stance, but nice to know this publication is finally seeing sense.
    - James, Vancouver, 29/10/2011 0:38
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    Cool..why don't you guys just go back 2 using your old currencies & work off that. Socialism is what got you where you are now..yeah, I know, America screwed you..
    - wcd, louisiana usa, 29/10/2011 0:35
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    Totally irresponsible but no more than expected by this right wing rag


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054913/Europe-war-2018-As-Angela-Merkel-says-euro-meltdown-spark-battle.html#ixzz1cCXzCiJn


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    #36
    Toby Take a Bow
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    cml387 wrote: »
    War is the default situation in Europe.Peace has broken out for a period as long as we have experienced only once, from the end of the Napoleonic wars to the Franco Prussian war.

    Not sure about this, but weren't there a couple of wars in the run-up to the Franco-Prussian war? Austria and ... France? Prussia? I think it was the period after the Franco-Prussian war that was peaceful (44 years), mainly because everyone was so concerned with getting territory elsewhere and because Bismarck was such a frightening person. Interestingly, you could argue the reason why there's been peace since 1945 was because people were concerned with gaining territory elsewhere (the cold war) and because Germany (and to a lesser extent, France) was relatively strong in Europe, similar to how Bismarck had worked it in his day.

    What's really worrying about this article is that the Daily Mail essentially seems to be taking a pro-EU stance (whilst taking numerous digs at France).


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    #37
    4leto
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    Yahew wrote: »
    True, ask you Polish friends. I see nothing to stop Russia getting back some territory in the next 20 years. Europe is poor, and largely dis-armed.

    They have us by the bollox as well, soon they will be our major oil source they are already our major gas supplier.

    But I don't think so they are undergoing a population decrease and to spite the energy and mineral wealth their economy is still bad. Its a kind of a corrupt anarchic Mafia pure capitalist system. Its a new system and it is very top heavy a kind of Kleptocracy.


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    #38
    thegreengoblin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    The one thing they get right in the article is the fact that Putin will still be there in 2018.


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    #39
    Toby Take a Bow
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    Yahew wrote: »
    I wasn't. I think it will. Who, or what, is going to stop Russia retaking Latvia if they feel that ethnic russians there are in trouble?

    Answer. Nobody.

    The Russians might. Surely it would make more sense to have a market to sell the gas to, rather than a market to force the gas on to?

    But, yeah, if Putin is still in power, who knows?


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    #40
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Genuinely curious, in todays Europe who would be the military top dog, nukes taken out of the equation? If we all really went to war who would most likely come out tops?


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    #41
    MungBean
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    Ireland would join Britain for the fight, all the unemployed jump at the chance of a job and join the army. Britain + Ireland > France.

    We become the new overlords !!!!


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    #42
    th3 s1aught3r
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    Mr Trade In wrote: »
    :mad: Sick article overselling what could happen if war breaks out in Europe.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054913/Europe-war-2018-As-Angela-Merkel-says-euro-meltdown-spark-battle.html

    Particularly disgusted with the 15 deaths in Dublin in August 2012,sick bastards.

    why oh why do people read the articles in this newspaper. Have you never read the Daily Mail before ?


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    #43
    4leto
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    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    Genuinely curious, in todays Europe who would be the military top dog, nukes taken out of the equation? If we all really went to war who would most likely come out tops?

    France, in equipment and numbers followed closely by Britain. But that does not matter. Who could rearm the quickest and that would be our friends the Germans.

    In the whole of Europe it would be the Russians and then believe it or not the Ukrainians. Probably because of their nice neighbours.


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    #44
    MungBean
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    th3 s1aught3r wrote: »
    why oh why do people read these articles and then be offended by them. Have you never read the Daily Mail before ?

    Yeah, cheek of him to be offended. Ignorant bastard :confused:


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    #45
    Mr Trade In
    Registered Users Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭Mr Trade In


    thegreengoblin wrote: »
    The one thing they get right in the article is the fact that Putin will still be there in 2018.

    He has been in politics since 1990 and became president in 1999, Prime Minister now but we all know he is the one in charge in Russia,I don't see Napoleon or Merkel still being in power in 7 years let alone Ed Miliband leading the Brits,Putin though is a different matter he likes his power and he should be feared as it is an empire he leads not a country.


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    #46
    Yahew
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    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    Genuinely curious, in todays Europe who would be the military top dog, nukes taken out of the equation? If we all really went to war who would most likely come out tops?

    Its hard to know. It might well be the French.

    An acquaintance of mine, who is German military ( for what it's worth), said that ignoring nukes Turkey could defeat all of Europe.

    (I don't see that happening its a thought experiment).

    The Greeks, Austrians, former Yugos. would have no way to stop em, the Germans are de-militarised and then you take the French to get to the Atlantic. Thats the hard one.


    This assumes Germany doesn't get to re-militarise.


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    #47
    thegreengoblin
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    MungBean wrote: »
    Ireland would join Britain for the fight, all the unemployed jump at the chance of a job and join the army. Britain + Ireland > France.

    We become the new overlords !!!!

    And then think of all that reconstruction work to be done across Europe....we'll be feckin rolling in it again.


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    #48
    Mr Trade In
    Registered Users Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭Mr Trade In


    th3 s1aught3r wrote: »
    why oh why do people read the articles in this newspaper. Have you never read the Daily Mail before ?

    I didn't read it in the paper, I seen it on Google News, and no I don't read the Mail as it is a fcuking gutter rag as seen in this pisstake of an article.


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    #49
    Dotrel
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    The G8 have all the most powerful militaries in the world. Of those 8 France and the UK are the two europeans who still have nukes. France have had to put up with 70 years of being called cowardly surrender-monkeys , so you know they're just itching for a fight.


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    #50
    Yahew
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    Just read the article, or get out of the thread.

    As it happens that article is pro-European ( as some of the angry commentators have pointed out). It's saying that if we don't get our house in order now, worse is to come, possibly war. Its overdone, but an interesting take.


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    #51
    4leto
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    Then there is Israel who are also a powerful European army and they have nukes.


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    #52
    Yahew
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    Dotrel wrote: »
    The G8 have all the most powerful militaries in the world. Of those 8 France and the UK are the two europeans who still have nukes. France have had to put up with 70 years of being called cowardly surrender-monkeys , so you know they're just itching for a fight.

    Italy? Not renowned in history as a major fighting force. Not since the collapse of the Empire.


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    #53
    Dotrel
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    Yahew wrote: »
    Italy? Not renowned in history as a major fighting force. Not since the collapse of the Empire.

    Sorry. Meant to say " a lot of them". Also China aren't in G8 and have a big military.


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    #54
    charlemont
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    Fairly stupid.


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    #55
    MungBean
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    4leto wrote: »
    Then there is Israel who are also a powerful European army and they have nukes.

    Israel wouldnt get involved because if they did the Arab nations would hit em when their back is turned.


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    #56
    Nate--IRL--
    Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Nate--IRL--


    4leto wrote: »
    Then there is Israel who are also a powerful European army and they have nukes.

    Might want to check your map. :)

    Nate


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    #57
    parrai
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    4leto wrote: »
    Then there is Israel who are also a powerful European army and they have nukes.


    Don't think Israel is in Europe


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    #58
    Toby Take a Bow
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    4leto wrote: »
    Then there is Israel who are also a powerful European army and they have nukes.

    I think Israel are only European when it comes to the Eurovision and the European cup.


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    #59
    Dotrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Dotrel


    Nate--IRL-- wrote: »
    Might want to check your map. :)

    Nate

    They are in many regards. Certainly their geographical neighbours want nothing to do with them anyway.


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    #60
    Mr Trade In
    Registered Users Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭Mr Trade In


    They are at the end of the Mediterranean Sea and have a formidable naval force, if War does break out they will get involved if only to protect their area of the sea.


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    #61
    OPENROAD
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    Mr Trade In wrote: »
    I didn't read it in the paper, I seen it on Google News, and no I don't read the Mail as it is a fcuking gutter rag as seen in this pisstake of an article.

    How do you know if you don't read it..have you ever read the paper?


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