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Why Is It That Athiests Talk So Much About Religion

  • 01-10-2010 10:23am
    #1
    old_aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭


    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.

    Are they so insecure?


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  • #2
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.

    Are you seriously asking why are all the posts in the atheism form are about atheism (the rejection of religion)?

    Sit down and have a little bit of a think about that one mate :rolleyes:


  • #3
    r3nu4l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    I'm not an Atheist but from my understanding most of them would know more about religion that I do. The reason for that is that many Atheists have thought long and hard about their religious beliefs and have made their own studies of religion to try and reconcile their belief and lack of faith.

    Also, the only way to bring other people around to the Atheist way of thinking is to be able to hold a knowledgeable conversation on religion so that they can refute arguments put forward by believers.

    I have a lot of time for Atheists who can put forward well-structured, logical arguments for their lack of belief.


  • #4
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    old_aussie wrote: »
    if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.
    This forum is for the discussion of atheism and agnosticism, both of which are broadly defined in relation to religion.

    Do you reckon there are forms of atheism or agnosticism out there which are unrelated to the various gods and religions which fill the world to overflowing?
    old_aussie wrote: »
    Are they so insecure?
    Not at all. Are you so insecure in your beliefs that you need to frame this question this way?


  • #5
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


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  • #6
    krudler
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.

    Are they so insecure?

    Seriously? posts in the atheism forum are about atheism? thats just mad. I heard they talk about nothing but soccer in the soccer forum either, have they nothing else to talk about over there?


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  • #7
    axer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.
    Well firstly this is the Atheist and Agnostic forum listed under "Religion & Spirituality". What do you think we would be talking about alot? besides there are plenty of other threads about evolution and science here too.
    old_aussie wrote: »
    Are they so insecure?
    Maybe we are willing to challenge our ideas i.e. put them to the test and not get worked up when an idea is wrong.


  • #8
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    The bigger question is why do people with i-phones always tell you they have an i-phone ?


  • #9
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Behold, two of the many similar threads.

    Though neither OP so embarrassingly worded as this one.


  • #10
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.

    Are they so insecure?

    Oh dear holy mother of secularism not again!

    Look. We do it just to annoy you old_aussie.

    Seriously, do you go to the football forum and ask why everyone only talks about soccer, then try to start up recepies for bakewell tart?


  • #11
    MrPudding
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    longshanks wrote: »
    The bigger question is why do people with i-phones always tell you they have an i-phone ?
    I have an iPhone.:D

    MrP


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  • #12
    Kate10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭Kate10


    Interesting to see this post today. I was just thinking about something similar. I am an atheist, and feel that I have wasted so much time debating with religious people on forums/in person etc. Sometimes the debate is interesting and productive. More often than not though it goes nowhere - after all, religion is based on faith which is not a reasoned belief so the arguments always end up in the same place - I believe because I want to believe. It occurred to me in the last few days that one of the best things about being an atheist is that I can live my life entirely free from all things religious including time wasted on discussions about really silly stuff!

    So from now on I am going to live my life free of all religious mumbo jumbo! Yipee!


  • #13
    MagicMarker
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    longshanks wrote: »
    The bigger question is why do people with i-phones always tell you they have an i-phone ?
    Because they've never heard of HTC. :cool:


  • #14
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Because they've never heard of HTC. :cool:

    zing!

    Sent from HTC Hero :pac:


  • #15
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Well as Dades already mentioned we've had numerous topics on this one already so I'll keep this brief.

    Very religious. Then, wishy washy deist. Then, rational skeptic. Found the A&A forum helped understand my philosophy better. Also provided communication with folks of similar mindset.

    Very brief version.
    Prefer banter with folks who value proof higher than disproof.


  • #16
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.

    Are they so insecure?

    Have a look through my previous posts. You will find me in other forums talking about football, films, dinosaurs and many other things. I'm sure if you checked the previous posts of any other poster here you'd find a variety of different topics being discuseed.

    But that would require a little bit of research wouldn't it? :rolleyes:


  • #17
    Ickle Magoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.

    Are they so insecure?

    How can you tell that atheism is the ONLY thing posters talk about from reading the A&A forum? :confused: Would you accuse someone posting in UCD of ONLY talking about their studies? What a bizarre statement...

    Are we so insecure? We're not the ones posting on a forum all hurt and annoyed that people dare to discuss religion on a discussion forum dedicated to religious skeptics...


  • #18
    gbee
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.

    Are they so insecure?

    It's an Atheist and Agnostic forum, it's against the rules to talk about anything else?


  • #19
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    gbee wrote: »
    It's an Atheist and Agnostic forum, it's against the rules to talk about anything else?

    I wouldn't say that. We even have a stickied thread called 'Interesting Stuff' were we post up anything of interest that isn't particularly related to atheism/agnosticism.


  • #20
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    looks like a hit and run.

    Close this thread I say!


  • #21
    liamw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭liamw


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.

    Are they so insecure?

    Because we all secretly believe in Yahweh of course

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnbXlkNavwo


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  • #22
    bnt
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    So, just because I don't do something myself, I shouldn't have an interest in it? These days religion looks (to me) like a spectator sport. Some sports have people running round fields kicking things; other sports have people whizzing around at high speeds and occasionally crashing. On a good day, religion can be both fun and interesting to observe.

    I'm currently fascinated by the Eddie Long situation in the USA, which has been going on for a few weeks. Christopher Hitchens just posted an op-ed about this on Slate. the "prosperity gospel" hypocrisy on display here is a car-crash eye-opener, even for me. :cool:

    Ye Hypocrites, are these your pranks
    To murder men and gie God thanks?
    Desist for shame, proceed no further
    God won't accept your thanks for murder.

    ―Robert Burns



  • #23
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,032 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Why is it Atheists can't resist replying to these pos posts? We are argumentative sh1tes aren't we?


  • #24
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    You'd swear the conversations in other people's lives were free from superfluous chatter, and only consisted of concise sentences no longer than necessary to convey the required information relating to the meaningful task at hand.

    Rather than banter about the weather, football, bonsai trees, Cheryl Cole's bum, vegetables, and maybe even the question of gods...

    It's like by all means talk about The Apprentice but SHUT UP ABOUT GOD or ur insecure!!1111eleven1!!


  • #25
    strobe
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    Dades wrote: »
    You'd swear the conversations in other people's lives were free from superfluous chatter, and only consisted of concise sentences no longer than necessary to convey the required information relating to the meaningful task at hand.

    Sounds like newspeak.


  • #26
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about? Just going by the posts in this forum.

    Are they so insecure?

    For the same reason psychiatrists talk about insanity.


  • #27
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    mewso wrote: »
    We are argumentative sh1tes aren't we?
    Not at all. What on god's green earth makes you say that?


  • #28
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    robindch wrote: »
    Not at all. What on god's green earth makes you say that?

    Ooooh, controversial!!


  • #29
    JimiTime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    Wicknight wrote: »
    Are you seriously asking why are all the posts in the atheism form are about atheism (the rejection of religion)?


    Atheism is the rejection of religion? I could swear that there are some that would Roll eye and facepalm etc etc if that definition was given in another context:)


  • #30
    ColmDawson
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    JimiTime wrote: »
    Atheism is the rejection of religion? I could swear that there are some that would Roll eye and facepalm etc etc if that definition was given in another context:)
    I think we're taking 'rejection' to mean 'non-acceptance'.


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  • #31
    jayzusb.christ
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭jayzusb.christ


    Simple answer, from a personal viewpoint:
    I like talking about religion. I've read quite a bit about it, and it's nearly always topical from a current affairs point of view. I don't believe in any god but I find it very interesting to read and discuss why other people do or don't.


  • #32
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    JimiTime wrote: »
    Atheism is the rejection of religion? I could swear that there are some that would Roll eye and facepalm etc etc if that definition was given in another context:)
    *Puts up hand*

    However, given the casual conversational context of the definition I let it slide... ;)


  • #33
    jayzusb.christ
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭jayzusb.christ


    Another thing: I like talking about the recession too. (It's fascinating, topical and affects us all.) It doesn't mean I secretly like the recession.


  • #34
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    The Voltron cartoon was introduced by Peter Cullen, more famous for his role as Optimus Prime, who as we all know has similar powers to a certain biblical figure (is resurrected saving everyone, can talk to his god, part of a trinity of Prime trailer and roller who share the same conciousness, etc etc).


    Just saying.


  • #35
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    JimiTime wrote: »
    Atheism is the rejection of religion?

    To me it is, what the rest of these idiots thinks doesn't concern me ... :P


  • #36
    JimiTime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    Wicknight wrote: »
    To me it is, what the rest of these idiots thinks doesn't concern me ... :P

    :)


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  • #37
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Wicknight wrote: »
    what the rest of these idiots thinks doesn't concern me
    I'm going to have a word with Bishop Hitchins and Pope Dawkens about this kind of false thinking!

    How on earth can we look like a religion if we don't behave like one? :confused:


  • #38
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    robindch wrote: »

    How on earth can we look like a religion if we don't behave like one? :confused:

    um. maybe our own type of special hat?


  • #39
    Insect Overlord
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    I think the point the OP was trying to make is that aliens built the Egyptian pyramids.

    :pac:


  • #40
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    ^^ I'd just managed to forget that one. :pac:


  • #41
    rational
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭rational


    Dades wrote: »
    Behold, two of the many similar threads.

    Though neither OP so embarrassingly worded as this one.


    Is that your stock response to people who challange atheistic dogma? I've heard it before somewhere:) Also I see your pretty adept at trying to undermine by saying how "embarrassing" it is. Real constructive alright.


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  • #42
    Canis Lupus
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    rational wrote: »
    Is that your stock response to people who challange atheistic dogma? I've heard it before somewhere:) Also I see your pretty adept at trying to undermine by saying how "embarrassing" it is. Real constructive alright.

    wu wu what??


  • #43
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    rational wrote: »
    Is that your stock response to people who challenge atheistic dogma? I've heard it before somewhere:) Also, I see you're pretty adept at trying to undermine by saying how "embarrassing" it is. Real constructive alright.

    Hmm, let's see......
    atheistic dogma
    You sir or madam, have just, perhaps unwittingly, expressed your ignorance and possibly arrogance towards atheists. Dogmatic atheists? The only dogmatic atheist on this forum that I can vividly remember and he happened to write his posts in a style, that at first impression, similar to yours - full of ignorance, accusations and bad mechanics. As for atheistic dogma, I'm reasonably confident at this point in time that you haven't a clue in the nay or jay what you are actually on about.

    If you disagree with the above, then please explain what this atheistic dogma is? Because right now I have the impression of a twelve year old talking intuitively out of his arse without learning about his subject matter first. Oh and I'm not really sorry if you find the tone of this post harsh, because, well the notion of atheistic dogma is pathetic and the least you could do before coming onto this forum to discuss it is actually learn something about the subject matter first.

    Thanks,


  • #44
    MagicMarker
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    rational wrote: »
    Is that your stock response to people who challange atheistic dogma? I've heard it before somewhere:) Also I see your pretty adept at trying to undermine by saying how "embarrassing" it is. Real constructive alright.
    Interesting username for a believer.


  • #45
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    This is a really popular argument these days. "Atheism is a religion blah blah".

    It's like saying "Your lack of a belief in a deity is just as retarded as my belief in the existence of one. So there!".


  • #46
    Dougla2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Dougla2


    Relevant > http://www.boingboing.net/2010/09/28/american-atheists-an.html


  • #47
    Ickle Magoo
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Interesting username for a believer.

    S/he claims not to be (last line of this post)- but so far we're only one tin hat away from them spilling the full set of bloopers... :pac:


  • #48
    cypharius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭cypharius


    Can't we just have a sticky that answers this question? It's like every time I check this board, one of these is the main thread.


  • #49
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    rational wrote: »
    Is that your stock response to people who challange atheistic dogma? I've heard it before somewhere:) Also I see your pretty adept at trying to undermine by saying how "embarrassing" it is. Real constructive alright.
    Did you read the opening question?
    Why is it, if atheists dont believe in god or religion that it seems to be the only thing that they talk about?
    Seriously, it's the only thing they talk about in an Atheism & Agnosticism forum.

    I'm sure you're feeling empathy with the OP as you've already discovered people don't suffer misnomers and empty clichés gladly, but you're backing the wrong horse here. This thread is a poorly worded hit and run and I don't really understand why you're defending it.


  • #50
    rational
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭rational


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Interesting username for a believer.

    I am not a believer as you see it


  • #51
    Dougla2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Dougla2


    rational wrote: »
    I am not a believer as you see it
    yes you are what you are is a lax christian


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