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The County Between Donegal and Antrim

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  • 11-04-2009 3:07am
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    PurpleFistMixer
    Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭


    What do you call it? (And why, if you're feeling verbose.)

    Until recently I was of the belief that to most people in the south it was called "Derry", and then to certain people in the north it was called "Londonderry", but I'm starting to come to the conclusion that this may not be entirely accurate. When I was in school we always, always called it Derry, and the word "Londonderry" only ever came up as a kind of relic in history, so I'm somewhat taken aback when people sincerely refer to it as such. It seems to me to be more of a politically charged term than just "Derry", but I've met a fair few people now who casually refer to it as Londonderry, and whom I would not consider particularly politically pushed.

    Anyway, just interested in seeing what people have to say.

    Name of the county between Donegal and Antrim? 222 votes

    Derry
    0% 0 votes
    Londonderry
    100% 222 votes


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    #2
    Fizman
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    Luxembourg.


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    #3
    PurpleFistMixer
    Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    Jaysus you got that in before I'd even added the poll.


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    xOxSinéadxOx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    nobody actually calls it londonderry do they? never heard anyone say that


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    eVeNtInE
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    Jigsaw
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    I think the official name is Londonderry but peopele name it as they please. If t is any consolation the district council is called Derry City Council. Doesn't matter really tbh.


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    Piste
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    Derry, I always assume someone calling it Londonderry is either English or NI unionist.


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    kraggy
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    Unionists call it Londonderry, Nationalists call it Derry.

    It's Derry. End of.


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    mardybumbum
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    Derry, because two syllables are less effort.


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    Shacklebolt
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    xOxSinéadxOx wrote: »
    nobody actually calls it londonderry do they? never heard anyone say that

    Apparently even northern Unionists usually say Derry in conversation, and only call it Londonderry when they're being formal about it. So I've read in some articles by Unionist writers anyways.

    To me its Derry anyway. The city council call themselves Derry City Council these days and are trying to change the legal name of the city.


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    PurpleFistMixer
    Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    Piste wrote: »
    Derry, I always assume someone calling it Londonderry is either English or NI unionist.
    That's what I thought too, but if that's the case, I may be accidentally associating myself with some of the above. Some... or all!


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    de5p0i1er
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    Atari Jaguar.


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    Crann na Beatha
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    Queen-Mise
    Registered Users Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    The Peoples Republic of Derry


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    destroyer
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭destroyer


    a kip


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    TestTransmission
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    who gives a crap


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    Turd Ferguson
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    I've never had to refer to that place in my life so I've never actually called it anything.


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    Agent Smith
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    The official name is Londonderry. However i read before is policy to reply to letters marked as derry with derry, and Londonderry with Londonderry



    And yes, its a kip


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    stovelid
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    Hurdy-hur-y


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    JayeL
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭JayeL


    Londaindoire


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    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Slightly OT.

    Exactly how long does an appreticeship take? Some of those Apprentice Boys are nearly on a pension, are they a bit slow learning their trade or something?


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    galwayrush
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    How about Dana's Kingdom.


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    salonfire
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    The news readers on BBC and UTV are a bit confused as well
    One minute its Derry then next its Londonderry

    All the road signs in the North refer to derry as well...cause people paint over the 'London'


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    javaboy
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    Hagar wrote: »
    Slightly OT.

    Exactly how long does an appreticeship take? Some of those Apprentice Boys are nearly on a pension, are they a bit slow learning their trade or something?

    :D I'm out of thanks.
    salonfire wrote: »
    The news readers on BBC and UTV are a bit confused as well
    One minute its Derry then next its Londonderry

    That's policy so as not to offend people. Or to offend everybody equally.


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    bobbly
    Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭bobbly


    Agent Smith wrote: »
    The official name is Londonderry. However i read before is policy to reply to letters marked as derry with derry, and Londonderry with Londonderry



    And yes, its a kip

    its officially Derry now by the looks of it


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    ejmaztec
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    "Not Delhi" - so that all of the Chinese heading for Delhi don't keep getting on the wrong plane.


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    Dudess
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    Derry. The "London" being tacked on is clearly something that has its origins in colonialism - surely anyone can see that. It's a good symbol of one culture imposing itself on another actually.

    I can't understand why people down here who aren't unionists would refer to it as "Londonderry" - other than to go to great lengths to demonstrate how anti republican they are. Yet being anti provo does not require this. Many nationalists and republicans are actually anti provo too.


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    sidneykidney
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭sidneykidney


    I call it Londonderry.....but i pronounce the first six letters silently


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    luckylucky
    Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    bobbly wrote: »
    its officially Derry now by the looks of it

    Afaik the official name of the city is Derry - changed it a while back, and the official name of the county is Londonderry - haven't heard that it changed.

    Just a thought - might it not be for the best for the city and county just to be renamed to something which the majority of both communities can live with. Wouldn't be the first time that a city got renamed after all.


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    destroyer
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    Dudess wrote: »
    Derry. The "London" being tacked on is clearly something that has its origins in colonialism - surely anyone can see that. It's a good symbol of one culture imposing itself on another actually.
    .

    +1 from all of us here in Lagoslongford


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    luckylucky
    Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Dudess wrote: »
    Derry. The "London" being tacked on is clearly something that has its origins in colonialism - surely anyone can see that. It's a good symbol of one culture imposing itself on another actually.

    Well in Derry's case it's only sort of that type of case. The London being tacked on was done as a gesture of thanks to the City of London Guilds which gave aid to the city during the Jacobite siege.
    destroyer wrote: »
    +1 from all of us here in Lagoslongford

    Has a nice ring to it. :P. Makes ye sound all cosmopolitan.


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