Population reduction planned following economic crisis

espinolman · 15-02-2009 10:05pm #1

The writing is on the wall:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

George Green knows what's planned :
George Green: Population Reduction Following The Economic Crisis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4KYHw4Z8cM

Gordon · 15-02-2009 10:25pm

George Green obviously wants to sell his book.

mysterious · 15-02-2009 11:21pm

To me this is like history repeating.

Economic crisis, world depression, and nazis germany wanting to have complete control and then a WW2

Same as now, economic crisis, world depression probably a WW3. then a fall of America maybe

And a few billion wiped out, just flupping great.

nyarlothothep · 15-02-2009 11:57pm

you've got to admit, they are pretty spooky, like what is the point of erecting them with these messages, unless it was a CIA plot to leave them there so as to let people foster their own conspiracy theories, hence diverting their attention away from black ops. I don't know, but the only thing that really freaks me out is WW3, it would be hell on earth! figuratively speaking.

espinolman · 17-02-2009 2:25am

The goal is to reduce the population to 500 million, over 90% reduction of humanity .

Population Reduction 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF2mg5krIjc
Population Reduction 2012 part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExzTkzzVtnI

,8,1 · 17-02-2009 5:38am

George Green obviously wants to sell his book.

Things are getting way too serious and close to comfort for lefty NWO-deniers to joke about it.

Global massive market crash -> mass unemployment -> hyperde/inflation -> food shortages -> starvation -> useless eaters disposed of -> NWO Georgia stones crew and lefty/greens happy.

Economic crisis, world depression, and nazis germany wanting to have complete control and then a WW2

I don't foresee any Fascist opposition to the Communists this time around.

About 10 million died in Commie GULAGs and another 8 million or so in the Ukrainian Famine - in peacetime. That could just as easily have been Western Europe.

You've heard the G7 press releases denouncing "protectionism". TPTB will not accept any countries "going their own way" or going a Nationalist route - plugging out of the global sinking ship.

WakeUp · 17-02-2009 5:59am

As the OP said the writings on the wall as plain as day.

meglome · 17-02-2009 7:02am

,8,1 wrote: »

Things are getting way too serious and close to comfort for lefty NWO-deniers to joke about it.

So we just assume then that he's a lovely bloke who has no intention of making money from this book or has any ulterior motives at all. We just act like sheeple and assume that eh?

bonkey · 17-02-2009 8:21am

,8,1 wrote: »

Things are getting way too serious and close to comfort for lefty NWO-deniers to joke about it.

Global massive market crash -> mass unemployment -> hyperde/inflation -> food shortages -> starvation -> useless eaters disposed of -> NWO Georgia stones crew and lefty/greens happy.

I'm not entirely sure how not-quite-reaching the first of these criteria counts as too close for comfort.

bonkey · 17-02-2009 8:22am

Also - please don't refer to posters on this board who happen to disagree with you as "lefty NWO-deniers".

After all, I don't think people would expect me to tolerate someone calling you a "righty truther" or some such

mysterious · 17-02-2009 1:10pm

I do find it funny

That people still blindly deny the reality that is unfolding as we speak. Thousands of jobs are been let go every day. The US economy is as it's worse since the 1930s. hyperinflation is starting. It's a global downturn.

This was all planned, but when it was planned people didnt beleive it. Cus this stuff only happens in movies:rolleyes:

Wake up and smell the coffee. When you do wake up. Take control of the reality and try to deal with this apathy that we allow ourselves to get cot up with. We are very much responsible for the way the world is going.

I will go over this point, and please take note of it.
There are two type of people on this planet.

Leaders
Followers.

Leader's, create your reality. Followers live that reality.
Leaders will and can shake the boat anytime they like,

You either sink, try survive. or you take find a way of taking control. I.e take responsiblity for your reality and your life.

Coming from complete logic, I can already tell why they are doing this now at a speeding pace. The bankers and powers of be need more control. They are realising that the recent wars and reaction from the people did not go as planned. They didnt get there Iran war yet. Despite there propaganda spewing since Jan 07. So they need to weaken us in this means. They are speeding the plan up alot faster than I thought;)

Once we are totally on "survival mode" They will have more power of us. We become hopless. We literally become true slaves.

I won't;)

Flamed Diving · 17-02-2009 2:22pm

,8,1 wrote: »

Things are getting way too serious and close to comfort for lefty NWO-deniers to joke about it.

Global massive market crash -> mass unemployment -> hyperde/inflation -> food shortages -> starvation -> useless eaters disposed of -> NWO Georgia stones crew and lefty/greens happy.

Which is it to be?

bonkey · 17-02-2009 2:30pm

mysterious wrote: »

There are two type of people on this planet.
Leaders

Followers.

Leader's, create your reality. Followers live that reality.
Leaders will and can shake the boat anytime they like,

So which are you? Are you trying to lead us, or are you following someone else?

Sleipnir · 17-02-2009 2:39pm

mysterious wrote: »

mysterious wrote: »

Once we are totally on "survival mode" They will have more power of us. We become hopless. We literally become true slaves.

If you're going to lead us you'll really need to learn how to spell, use the apostrophe and, the differences between 'their', 'there' and 'they're'.

I won't live in world where our glorious ruler doesn't have a basic knowledge of the english language!
I also won't live in a world where we can't hop!

Regarding these stones. If I was rich, more than a little mad and paid to have these put up in Ireland, I'd be treated as a rich eccentric and quite rightly so.

nyarlothothep · 17-02-2009 2:46pm

I wouldn't judge someones leadership skills based on such criteria. That said, dividing people into leaders and followers is two dimensional. I think humans should be self leading with the complete abolition of hierarchies and status quo systems, the total dismantlement of institutions of control.

Also this RC Christian was representing a group of individuals, seems weird to me. And the eugenicist tone with the addition of ancient languages is disconcerting.

mysterious · 17-02-2009 2:48pm

Sleipnir wrote: »

If you're going to lead us you'll really need to learn how to spell, use the apostrophe and, the differences between 'their', 'there' and 'they're'.

I won't live in world where our glorious ruler doesn't have a basic knowledge of the english language!
I also won't live in a world where we can't hop!

Regarding these stones. If I was rich, more than a little mad and paid to have these put up in Ireland, I'd be treated as a rich eccentric and quite rightly so.

I know
Well she told me their dog, was over there. And I said they're taking the dog back to the vet when they find her.:D

Sorry I do type very fast, and speak my mind rather quick.

mysterious · 17-02-2009 2:49pm

bonkey wrote: »

So which are you? Are you trying to lead us, or are you following someone else?

I lead myself, I've done it often enough, that people naturally follow my example whether they are aware of it or not.

DubTony · 17-02-2009 2:52pm

Sleipnir wrote: »

If you're going to lead us you'll really need to learn how to spell, use the apostrophe and, the differences between 'their', 'there' and 'they're'.

I won't live in world where our glorious ruler doesn't have a basic knowledge of the english language!
I also won't live in a world where we can't hop!

Regarding these stones. If I was rich, more than a little mad and paid to have these put up in Ireland, I'd be treated as a rich eccentric and quite rightly so.

LOL. The spelling and grammar police have arrived.

Flamed Diving · 17-02-2009 2:52pm

mysterious wrote: »

I lead myself, I've done it often enough, that people naturally follow my example whether they are aware of it or not.

ROFLCAKES!!!

:D

Sleipnir · 17-02-2009 3:09pm

DubTony wrote: »

LOL. The spelling and grammar police have arrived.

Sorry, it's an illness.

Kernel · 17-02-2009 10:17pm

What you lot don't realise is that he deliberately misspelt in order to throw off the NSA supercomputers scanning forums (fora? blah!) worldwide. Hero!

Diogenes · 18-02-2009 4:38am

Kernel wrote: »

What you lot don't realise is that he deliberately misspelt in order to throw off the NSA supercomputers scanning forums (fora? blah!) worldwide. Hero!

Yes the NSA super computers avoid mis spelt posts. I really find it funny that people who think things like eschelon could exist, are people who think it's funny.

If i thought the NWO existed and had the capability to read every e-mail and webpost I made, I'd be off learning semaphore, dusting off a cb radio and basic encryption techniques.

Thats my problem with you guys, if I genuinely believed the NWO existed and was as all powerful as you seem to think, I wouldn't be campaigning to give this subforum a higher profile, I'd be working on IP encryption and designing my bunker.

DubTony · 18-02-2009 9:41am

Diogenes wrote: »

Yes the NSA super computers avoid mis spelt posts. I really find it funny that people who think things like eschelon could exist, are people who think it's funny.

You're catching on.

This 10 year old report from the BBC is interesting.

This one is 8 years old.

I like this bit.

vnunet wrote:

Schmid said that although the capabilities of Echelon may not be as far reaching as first thought, the alleged joint venture between governments of the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand can still suck up private data "like a vacuum cleaner."

What could be seen as funny is that the thing probably doesn't work very well.

zdnet wrote:

However, Davies and other experts say that now the existence of Echelon is officially recognised, it may be possible to turn the debate towards making national security systems more accountable. Many have pointed out, for example, that for all its surveillance capabilities the US National Security Agency failed to prevent the 11 September attacks from taking place.

,8,1 · 18-02-2009 10:11am

What could be seen as funny is that the thing probably doesn't work very well.

Only the intelligency agency itself knows how well the service is running.

Anything on the efficiency of central intelligence gathering operations in the public domain can be taken to be disinfo and/or inaccurate.

Many have pointed out, for example, that for all its surveillance capabilities the US National Security Agency failed to prevent the 11 September attacks from taking place.

Who is to say that 9/11 was not an "inside job", or if not directly initiated from the inside, "supported" by these agencies.

Who is to say that 9/11 was not crucial to NWO long-range plans, and therefore, central intelligence agencies had to let it happen/cause/facilitate it.

You are accepting the premises of the 9/11 Official Story, and because 9/11 was not a transparent event, this does not seem particularly wise.

ZDNET's statement is based on the assumption that there was no US Establishment involvement in the incident.

espinolman · 18-02-2009 11:48am

In 100 years time you know what they will be teaching children , they will be telling them that the world was overpopulated , that everyone was told the population needed to be culled and that everyone agreed to it and they will show them the georgia guidestones and say look if people had disagreed they would have been dismantled .

Diogenes · 18-02-2009 12:02pm

,8,1 wrote: »

Only the intelligency agency itself knows how well the service is running.

Or the public oversight commitees they are answerable to. You're seeming to suggest that intelligence agencies are monotholic centrally controlled agencies. Stella Rimington, Valarie Palme are just two examples of how sieve like these agencies are.

Anything on the efficiency of central intelligence gathering operations in the public domain can be taken to be disinfo and/or inaccurate.

Why?

Diogenes · 18-02-2009 12:05pm

espinolman wrote: »

In 100 years time you know what they will be teaching children , they will be telling them that the world was overpopulated , that everyone was told the population needed to be culled and that everyone agreed to it and they will show them the georgia guidestones and say look if people had disagreed they would have been dismantled .

Yes because if I was in the NWO and engaging in a secret plan of mass genocide, the one thing I would do is carve is to these plans onto a granite monument.

espinolman · 18-02-2009 12:11pm

Diogenes wrote: »

Yes because if I was in the NWO and engaging in a secret plan of mass genocide, the one thing I would do is carve is to these plans onto a granite monument.

The elite are very legalistic , they will always let it be known what they are planning .

Diogenes · 18-02-2009 12:25pm

espinolman wrote: »

The elite are very legalistic , they will always let it be known what they are planning .

So they're a secret society who always tell people what they are up to? Ernst Blofeld and Auric Goldfinger are now beginning to look like plausible villains when they tell Bond their complex and fiendish plots.

nyarlothothep · 18-02-2009 1:06pm

Diogenes wrote: »

Yes because if I was in the NWO and engaging in a secret plan of mass genocide, the one thing I would do is carve is to these plans onto a granite monument.

They can flaunt their plans because no one is going to stop them plus they're occultists waiting for the return of their god, the guidestones are there for that purpose. People say they get a weird vibe from them. This is because there is a lot of extra dimensional energy zimming about. Its a power node. I'd put that forward though to about 600 years, the fallout will probably affect Georgia too, so they don't know exactly when to open the time capsule.

What strikes me as weird is why no one has tried to dig up the capsule. The stones were vandalized by christian fundies, but they should have just dug up the capsule if it was down there.

DubTony · 18-02-2009 1:20pm

Diogenes wrote: »

So they're a secret society who always tell people what they are up to? Ernst Blofeld and Auric Goldfinger are now beginning to look like plausible villains when they tell Bond their complex and fiendish plots.

The ignorance in this statement is shocking.

For some reason NWO deniers (for want of a better word) in general, consistently promote the notion that if someone wanted to take over the world, why would they allow everyone to know what they're going to do?

This is the single most ridiculous argument used to deny a NWO conspiracy. I'm not at all saying that there is a "shadowy cabal" intent on ruling the world, culling 90% of the population, and running a Stalinist type dictatorship across the planet. However, if I was planning to do it, and I had the influence, resources and power to achieve my goal, I could be sure that books would be written hinting at my objective, I could allow my idea to be presented to the people of the world in an indirect manner, and even have relatives tell well known film-makers what my plan was, confident that most people would not believe my unbelievable goal.

I could go on my merry way putting my plan in place because I have the power, influence and resources, in the full knowledge that anyone who came out against me would be called an idiot, a nut-job or a conspiraloon by the rest of the population.

Sweet.

King Mob · 18-02-2009 1:28pm

DubTony wrote: »

The ignorance in this statement is shocking.

For some reason NWO deniers (for want of a better word) in general, consistently promote the notion that if someone wanted to take over the world, why would they allow everyone to know what they're going to do?

This is the single most ridiculous argument used to deny a NWO conspiracy. I'm not at all saying that there is a "shadowy cabal" intent on ruling the world, culling 90% of the population, and running a Stalinist type dictatorship across the planet. However, if I was planning to do it, and I had the influence, resources and power to achieve my goal, I could be sure that books would be written hinting at my objective, I could allow my idea to be presented to the people of the world in an indirect manner, and even have relatives tell well known film-makers what my plan was, confident that most people would not believe my unbelievable goal.

I could go on my merry way putting my plan in place because I have the power, influence and resources, in the full knowledge that anyone who came out against me would be called an idiot, a nut-job or a conspiraloon by the rest of the population.

Sweet.

And yet despite this supposed flaunting of their plan, no-one can supply any kind of reliable evidence of such a plan being enacted or even evidence supporting the existence of such a plan.

They must be covering this up!

Oh wait....

espinolman · 18-02-2009 1:43pm

DubTony wrote: »

This is the single most ridiculous argument used to deny a NWO conspiracy. I'm not at all saying that there is a "shadowy cabal" intent on ruling the world, culling 90% of the population, and running a Stalinist type dictatorship across the planet. However, if I was planning to do it, and I had the influence, resources and power to achieve my goal, I could be sure that books would be written hinting at my objective, I could allow my idea to be presented to the people of the world in an indirect manner, and even have relatives tell well known film-makers what my plan was, confident that most people would not believe my unbelievable goal.
Sweet.

I think it's more about letting it be known so they fool themselves into thinking there was universal agreement , and no one really objected and therefore they won't feel guilt and remorse , and they will fool themselves into thinking it is for the greater good .

Diogenes · 18-02-2009 2:38pm

espinolman wrote: »

I think it's more about letting it be known so they fool themselves into thinking there was universal agreement , and no one really objected and therefore they won't feel guilt and remorse , and they will fool themselves into thinking it is for the greater good .

And they fool themselves by having a single obscure monument in a field in georgia that is going to ensure global agreement.

mysterious wrote:

However, if I was planning to do it, and I had the influence, resources and power to achieve my goal, I could be sure that books would be written hinting at my objective, I could allow my idea to be presented to the people of the world in an indirect manner, and even have relatives tell well known film-makers what my plan was, confident that most people would not believe my unbelievable goal.

So let me get this clear you think that a global conspiracy planning on genocide I'd just let people allow even hints of this, for ****s n giggles? Why?

bonkey · 18-02-2009 2:49pm

DubTony wrote: »

The ignorance in this statement is shocking.

That someone disagrees with you is not necessarily ignorance.

For some reason NWO deniers (for want of a better word) in general, consistently promote the notion that if someone wanted to take over the world, why would they allow everyone to know what they're going to do?

Thats part of the argument.

if I was planning to do it, and I had the influence, resources and power to achieve my goal

...then how would I go about preventing others from accidentally or deliberately leaking evidence of my plans.

Thats another part of the argument.

See....the whole idea that you're putting forward about this need to put hints out there to create "background noise" only makes sense if there's uncontrolled leakage of information. But this doesn't seem to be the case. We have what is being read as "hints", creating this "background noise", but there isn't anything that its actually masking.

There's a lot of stuff - of the alleged-hint variety and the alleged-evidence variety - which can, at best, be said to be not inconsistent with a conspiracy. Its also not inconsistent with there being no conspiracy, which is the problem.

We see the sun "rise" in the east and set in the west each day. This observation alone is not inconsistent with the notion that the sun revolves around the earth. It is, however, also not inconsistent with the notion that the earth revolves around the sun, nor with the notion the the earth and sun are a binary pair orbiting each other, or indeed, that they have fixed positions relative to each other, but that internal spin of the earth causes the appearance of one body rotating around the other.

There are, in fact, an infinite number of possibilities which can result in this observation. To decide which of them is true - or most likely to be true - we need to look for other evidence.

With or without other evidence, we also need an approach - a value system - to determine what is the most likely situation. This is where Occam's Razor comes in. Its not perfect...but its has the best track record. All else being equal, the explanation which relies on the least assumptions is most likely to be true.

The notion that there is a perfectly-hidden organisation, which feels the need to drop hints to prevent people from latching on to evidence we haven't found, which can prevent leaks over decades, centuries or indeed millenia, which controls everything but has some ill-defined plan to gain more power....there's an awful lot of assumptions there.

Is it impossible? No.
Is it likely? Certainly not.

Mr. Incognito · 18-02-2009 2:50pm

If you're going to lead us you'll really need to learn how to spell, use the apostrophe and, the differences between 'their', 'there' and 'they're'.

I won't live in world where our glorious ruler doesn't have a basic knowledge of the english language!
I also won't live in a world where we can't hop!

Judging by the fact the word pseudonym is mis-spelt on the Georgia Stones maybe it's a conspiracy led by dsylexics.

It would explain why they believe nothing they (can't) read and half of what they hear.

espinolman · 18-02-2009 2:59pm

Diogenes wrote: »

And they fool themselves by having a single obscure monument in a field in georgia that is going to ensure global agreement.

More writing on the wall:

Denver International Airport Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmy0PMgm-Q0

amacachi · 18-02-2009 3:03pm

Denver Airport came up before so I already have this uploaded :rolleyes:

album.php?albumid=138&pictureid=543

Diogenes · 18-02-2009 3:07pm

espinolman wrote: »

More writing on the wall:

Denver International Airport Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmy0PMgm-Q0

Again you're basically saying that the greatest secret conspiracy theory in the world betrays themselves by painting giant murals exposing their goals and ambitions.

Does the word "secret" have some elusive private definition for you?

espinolman · 18-02-2009 3:51pm

Diogenes wrote: »

Again you're basically saying that the greatest secret conspiracy theory in the world betrays themselves by painting giant murals exposing their goals and ambitions.

Does the word "secret" have some elusive private definition for you?

No i have not said anything about a 'secret conspiracy' i dont't think so , i think it is well out in the open , it's in your face .

meglome · 18-02-2009 4:45pm

espinolman wrote: »

No i have not said anything about a 'secret conspiracy' i dont't think so , i think it is well out in the open , it's in your face .

I thought by definition that conspiracy's were... well... secret?

mysterious · 18-02-2009 6:40pm

meglome wrote: »

I thought by definition that conspiracy's were... well... secret?

Yeah that's the deal.

Thats why government loves conspiracies.
Whenever something is deemed secret, or not normal people jump on the bandwagon it's nuts, its laughable it should be ignored. So the majority of everyday simpleton people will not delve into these topics. And anyway who does get into conspiracies, is automatically not as worthy of the person who seems to think that we live in a serene world with no secret's

It's called reverse psycology in many cases.

secret's = dysfunctions.
Meglome, you have to understand when there are secret's involved, or things been told as a secret (whether it is secret or not) is showing something deceptive and suspicious.

espinolman · 18-02-2009 6:49pm

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Judging by the fact the word pseudonym is mis-spelt on the Georgia Stones maybe it's a conspiracy led by dsylexics.

It would explain why they believe nothing they (can't) read and half of what they hear.

You have mis-spelt the word dyslexic , do you have dyslexia !

mysterious · 18-02-2009 6:54pm

This is what I mean by apathy.

Two or three year's before WW2, I could (or which I know I would If i was alive, been able to sense something like this if it were to happen)

I would say to the person next to me, I sense a world war happening and mass genocide, what do you think of that

The person put's his book down, calls me a nut and conspiracy loon. He says don't want to get into all these crazy plans by some government, that is daft mysterious!!!!

Then in 1945 WW2 happens......... Just saying like.
People just want to ignore the signs, until, whatdoyaknow something sinister happens.

thecommander · 18-02-2009 6:58pm

mysterious wrote: »

Two or three year's before WW2, I could (or which I know I would If i was alive, been able to sense something like this if it were to happen)

I would say to the person next to me, I sense a world war happening and mass genocide, what do you think of that

The person put's his book down, calls me a nut and conspiracy loon. He says don't want to get into all these crazy plans by some government, that is daft mysterious!!!!

Then in 1945 WW2 happens......... Just saying like.
People just want to ignore the signs, until, whatdoyaknow something sinister happens.

So your saying you can tell the future now?

Gordon · 18-02-2009 7:01pm

mysterious wrote: »

People just want to ignore the signs, until, whatdoyaknow something sinister happens.

The problem is that many people can feel stuff like this, all the time, and they are wrong. Eg that Reinhard guy that claimed something big was going to happen last week when it didn't.

mysterious · 18-02-2009 7:13pm

Gordon wrote: »

The problem is that many people can feel stuff like this, all the time, and they are wrong. Eg that Reinhard guy that claimed something big was going to happen last week when it didn't.

I agree, It's a difficult one to clearly nail.
But in saying that, there are many people like him who are using it for publicity, to sell books, or scare people, or have some personal agenda.

Thats furthers, gives people who have good senses a bad name.:mad:

Like 2012, its supposedly a galactic alignement of the milky way and the winter equinox and the new mayan calander.

People like to spew the world is going to end, to make publicity out of something they took out of context.

I'm well aware of your point tho.

espinolman · 18-02-2009 7:30pm

mysterious wrote: »

People like to spew the world is going to end, to make publicity out of something they took out of context.

Some people would know something is going to happen in the future , now they tell other people , why , to prevent it from happening , see if enough people confront it , it does not happen , like y2k that was supposed to happen but people were warned , done something about it and so it did not occur .

pwd · 18-02-2009 7:34pm

sounds good to me. How do we decide who's in the 500 million

Kernel · 18-02-2009 8:20pm

Diogenes wrote: »

So let me get this clear you think that a global conspiracy planning on genocide I'd just let people allow even hints of this, for ****s n giggles? Why?

There's nothing secret about it. It's been exposed for years now, but people like yourself will always be unwilling to accept anything outside of the MSM. I take it you know all about Henry Kissinger's Memorandum 200?

On Dec. 10, 1974, the U.S. National Security Council under Henry Kissinger completed a classified 200-page study, “National Security Study Memorandum 200: Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests.” The study falsely claimed that population growth in the so-called Lesser Developed Countries (LDCs) was a grave threat to U.S. national security. Adopted as official policy in November 1975 by President Gerald Ford, NSSM 200 outlined a covert plan to reduce population growth in those countries through birth control, and also, implicitly, war and famine. Brent Scowcroft, who had by then replaced Kissinger as national security adviser (the same post Scowcroft was to hold in the Bush administration), was put in charge of implementing the plan. CIA Director George Bush was ordered to assist Scowcroft, as were the secretaries of state, treasury, defense, and agriculture.

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html

Bonkey, I believe that may be relevent to your reference in another thread to our previous discussion as to why the situation in the third world was as it is.

Kernel · 18-02-2009 8:29pm

Here's a video of the bossman Dave Rockefeller speaking about population control - could the economic collapse be part of this plan?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8

Population reduction planned following economic crisis

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