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Guitar Lesson Advice

  • 22-12-2004 11:08am
    #1
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I was given 5 guitar lessons with a local Blues player for christmas and I haven't a clue about them. Anyone got any good advice for preparing for lessons? I'll be starting them in the new year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    I dont think you need to prepare for the lessons. He'll probably spend the first lesson just checking you out, testing your skills etc, and then give you "homework" for the next time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 869 ✭✭✭goin'_to_the_PS


    Looking at your last posts, why would you need lessons


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    There's a difference between knowing guitars and knowing how to play.

    I have a decent enough level of skill. Nothing terrific or unique but I can play some stuff. I just think it'd be nice to get my theory up to speed. Plus they were a gift so I'm not complaining :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    True - if i spent as much time playing as reading etc about guitars, i'd have no problem either :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I've tried teaching myself theory before (got myself Fretboard Logic) but I just can't get my head around it.

    I assume you bring your own guitar to these lessons? See, I really have no idea how these things work :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Well, yeah, unless he's coming to your gaff?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Na. I think it's in his shop. Horrible shop really. Terrible stock :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Could be worth it....

    oh, if you happen to stumble upon any 54 or 62 Strats in his shop, gimme a shout :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Ha, not a hope. Best guitar he has in there is a Charvel super strat with a Kahler trem that he has clamped down.

    He just has Korean made no name strats that I think are made from plywood :s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    You never know what these old crappy shops have - might stumble upon a jewel! Ancient Electroharmonix stuff.....dusty old Big Muffs :)


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I wish...

    It only opened last Tuesday...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    bummer...there's nothin like accidentally discovering vintage goodies. It's like going to a car-boot sale and finding a grandmother clearing her attic - throwing out a priceless vintage strat....mmmm, i'd offer her an ENTIRE 100 yoyos :D

    ok, enough daydreaming.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    There's a shop up here that does that. Has old tape delay units and stuff like that. Shame they know their stuff too well :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    i was lucky, i found an idiot.
    I traded an ancient acoustic guitar which i got as a present for a 1972 Fender Telecaster Thinline and paid some small change on top of that :D

    The deal of a LIFETIME - that's still my main guitar.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Bastard.

    Hmm, this guy is gonna have fun trying to break some of my bad playing habits..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    :D

    I badly need lessons too, coz i've been stuck in a rut for years, but i just never get around to it.
    You'll probably find it very useful, it's good to get a fresh perspective on your playing.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Hopefully so. Maybe he'll be able to force me out of this E Phrygian scale that I've been playing for 2 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    The friggin phrygian, eh?
    I suffer from minor pentatonic-itis at the moment.
    That's exactly why it'll do you good to get a few hours with that guy.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Minor Pentatonics eh? Not a clue do I have about how to play those :p

    Yeah, I assume they're only hour lessons. Should be interesting if nothing else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    yeah, a minor case of minor pentatonics.

    I know it was a present, but if you dont mind my asking, how much does he charge per hour? what's the going rate these days anyway?


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    It was €100 for 5 lessons. If they're not an hour long, it's a bit expensive but since I didn't pay, I've nothing to complain about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    That's pretty good i think.

    Well, let us know how you get on.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Will do. They won't be starting til the New Year though. Have to stroll down and have a chat with him, see what the sceal is.

    Hmm, what guitar will I use...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Hmm, what guitar will I use...

    Tell you what - take a guitar, stand in front of the mirror, and ask yourself "does my bum look big in this" - sorted! :D:D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I often do...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Tell him exactly what you want to learn or hope to learn.
    When I'm giving lessons this seems to be the hardest thing to extract from the person.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    TBH, I haven't a clue what I want to learn :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Think about it, you have time. Your basic technique is, I imagine, ok, so listen to guitarists whose style you like and maybe look for insights into styles you may not be too familiar with. Be realisitic though, if the guy is a blues player it is unlikely he'll be bringing you up to Patitucci level :)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Who? :p

    TBH, if I got my scales, modes and chordal work done, I'd be bloody happy. But there's no way I'm gonna get all that sorted in 5 lessons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Oooops my bad.

    Petrucci
    jp_ebjpm.jpg


    not Patitucci
    John-Patitucci-ac04.jpg


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Aye, I was wondering did you mean Petrucci alright.

    Man, I want one of his sig guitars. Might even just get an OLP one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    feylya wrote:
    There's a shop up here that does that. Has old tape delay units and stuff like that. Shame they know their stuff too well :(

    Where? And how much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Dundalk. Corrs country.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Outside Dundalk tbh. And not for sale. He collects all these rare guitars and amps, sticks them in a container and ships it off to America every six months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    ... and then we buy them back from Chris.



    Hmmm.... I think I have a plan :D


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    A Plan? Does it involve monkeys? Evil Monkeys? That FLY???

    /me puts down the beer and steps away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    feylya wrote:
    A Plan? Does it involve monkeys? Evil Monkeys? That FLY???

    /me puts down the beer and steps away

    Don't be so stupid!

    Of course it involves monkeys!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    But can they fly???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Yes, if they know what's good for them :)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    They're monkeys. Of course they don't know what's good for them!!!

    So, any more advice on Guitar Lessons??? :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Yes. Be like the sponge. Absorb.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I assume things like new(ish) strings, be in tune, have picks etc are a given?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Yeah, just pay attention, if he's good you should be able to pick things up even when he's not teaching. Just watch how he does things, how he gets around the neck, his picking technique, etc.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    TBH, the first time I heard him play, I thought I was listening to Garry Moore...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    feylya wrote:
    They're monkeys. Of course they don't know what's good for them!!!

    So, any more advice on Guitar Lessons??? :p

    I've no advice on guitar lessons but your point about monkeys, a lot of monkeys when they are sick eat particular plants that contain medicine. So they do know what's good for them. Next stop Planet of the Apes...


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Zechariah Acidic Apparel


    Ancient1 wrote:
    i was lucky, i found an idiot.
    I traded an ancient acoustic guitar which i got as a present for a 1972 Fender Telecaster Thinline and paid some small change on top of that :D

    The deal of a LIFETIME - that's still my main guitar.

    original? Sweet. Post a pic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    There's one in the gear thread iirc. Know excatly what you want to gain from the lessons and tell him, and make sure nobody's wandering off on a tangent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    original? Sweet. Post a pic?

    Sorry to get off topic again, feylya :D (we've covered just about everything from flying monkeys to telecasters, cool!)

    emmet - here you go, it's the only decent shot i have at the moment. But you'll get the idea (the nice pic not being mine of course).


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Meh, don't worry about being on topic. I know I rarely am :p

    Nice guitars :D


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Zechariah Acidic Apparel


    sweet, and you just like scammed some old lady out of it you say?

    this is the one i'm getting next year,

    tn90spl.jpg

    and Feylya just be sure that you're not comin straight out of the cold into your lesson, stupid tip but is necessary, have your fingers well loosened beforehand.


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