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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭phildenny


    How do you get the Irish subtitles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    phildenny wrote: »
    How do you get the Irish subtitles.

    Oh you can do it through your laptop/internet device.
    Go to the TG4 website and click on an episode on the player.

    You will see an option to change subtitles from Irish to English or no subtitles if you prefer (near the right corner beside the expand screen button).

    gIIzbJ2.jpg

    The option you pick goes purple - GA for Gaeilge in the screenshot above.

    Subtitles can be changed when the episode is playing, or when it is stopped,

    What I do is cast the laptop to my telly, and watch it with Irish subtitles.

    However, I noticed Irish subtitles are not put up until about a day, after it has been aired on TG4.

    I might go back over it again later if there are phrases or bits I found interesting.
    Similar to the way those RnR watchers do in the above video.

    Plus, I have an excel sheet of words and phrases, I make note of the odd time.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭phildenny


    Oh you can do it through your laptop/internet device.
    Go to the TG4 website and click on an episode on the player.

    You will see an option to change subtitles from Irish to English or no subtitles if you prefer (near the right corner beside the expand screen button).

    gIIzbJ2.jpg

    The option you pick goes purple - GA for Gaeilge in the screenshot above.

    Subtitles can be changed when the episode is playing, or when it is stopped,

    What I do is cast the laptop to my telly, and watch it with Irish subtitles.

    However, I noticed Irish subtitles are not put up until about a day, after it has been aired on TG4.

    I might go back over it again later if there are phrases or bits I found interesting.
    Similar to the way those RnR watchers do in the above video.

    Plus, I have an excel sheet of words and phrases, I make note of the odd time.

    Grma


  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭TenLeftFingers


    phildenny wrote: »
    How do you get the Irish subtitles.

    For Youtube, I can't get them on iOS but they work on a laptop /desktop. For TG4, I usually watch on the laptop and they work well there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    I'm really enjoying the old episodes of RnR. I think it's gas the way they are all tucking money into baby Saoirse's clothes. I wonder when Michael will find out he is the dad, and how poor Saoirse dies.

    Also I thought Tom and Owen got together at some point but now Owen has gone off to Australia. Maybe that happened already and I missed it. I only started watching from Season 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    I'm really enjoying the old episodes of RnR. I think it's gas the way they are all tucking money into baby Saoirse's clothes. I wonder when Michael will find out he is the dad, and how poor Saoirse dies.

    Also I thought Tom and Owen got together at some point but now Owen has gone off to Australia. Maybe that happened already and I missed it. I only started watching from Season 2.

    I don’t seem to remember Tom and Owen’s relationship focus yet or the famous gay kiss so far. They seem to be building up to it.

    Edit I think I am wrong yer man and Tom kissed in 1996 apparently according to the net. So that was season 1

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭julyjane


    I have to say I didn't have much sympathy for Briain last night when his injury occurred although I dread to think what revenge he might take


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    julyjane wrote: »
    I have to say I didn't have much sympathy for Briain last night when his injury occurred although I dread to think what revenge he might take

    Ah now it was was painful. Sure he mightn't need the auld snip after that!? :eek:

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    The old episodes are really good.

    I always think it's funny when Jack says something in English and he comes out with a thick British accent. You don't expect it.

    Why was Mack so hated back then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    The old episodes are really good.

    I always think it's funny when Jack says something in English and he comes out with a thick British accent. You don't expect it.

    Why was Mack so hated back then?

    Always makes me laugh. Diarmuid de Faoite must of had to really concentrate, when he put on that English accent each time he spoke i mBéarla. Really added to the realism for the character. Plus many characters spoke lines of English here and there. Far more realistic as that is what they do in Gaeltacht.

    I remember Des Bishop saying that they did not use the word 'rothar' for bike. It was mo mbicycle. And 'anraith' was not soup. It was simply soup.

    In my opinion, the show has lost something by using all Irish where possible.

    The comedy and little subtleties seemed to be better back in the old shows.
    Like the interactions between the brothers Collie and Séamus, were top quality comedy value. Fond of each other but annoying each other at the same time.

    Mack was hated because he stalked Ali became infatuated with her broke in a number of times (made a key for the lock he put in) and overdosed on pills. Also he was hanging around drinking and generally causing trouble. Constantly having to be bailed out by his Garda father.
    Mack's character was a lost one. Having his mother died when he was young and went wild.

    The fella who acts as Mack (Pól Ó Gríofa) has questioned in the past whether a character would change that much. Plus seemed to imply that the character is not as much fun to play.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    Always makes me laugh. Diarmuid de Faoite must of had to really concentrate, when he put on that English accent each time he spoke i mBéarla. Really added to the realism for the character. Plus many characters spoke lines of English here and there. Far more realistic as that is what they do in Gaeltacht.

    I remember Des Bishop saying that they did not use the word 'rothar' for bike. It was mo mbicycle. And 'anraith' was not soup. It was simply soup.

    In my opinion, the show has lost something by using all Irish where possible.

    The comedy and little subtleties seemed to be better back in the old shows.
    Like the interactions between the brothers Collie and Séamus, were top quality comedy value. Fond of each other but annoying each other at the same time.

    Mack was hated because he stalked Ali became infatuated with her broke in a number of times (made a key for the lock he put in) and overdosed on pills. Also he was hanging around drinking and generally causing trouble. Constantly having to be bailed out by his Garda father.
    Mack's character was a lost one. Having his mother died when he was young and went wild.

    The fella who acts as Mack (Pól Ó Gríofa) has questioned in the past whether a character would change that much. Plus seemed to imply that the character is not as much fun to play.


    Thanks for that gormdubhgorm. Your knowledge of RnR is very impressive!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    Thanks for that gormdubhgorm. Your knowledge of RnR is very impressive!

    Ah plenty of youtube watching!

    I wouldn't really know much of what happened for about a gap of about 15 years to be honest. Where I would not have been a regular watcher.

    I find the Ros Na Rún youtube channel great. Plenty of stuff on it. Plus there is the odd ramdomer that puts up the odd RnR episode.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Poor Niall this evening!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    Is anyone else having issues with their subtitles lately?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    Is anyone else having issues with their subtitles lately?

    Nope, was fine for me.

    The last episode was good one plenty of emotion in it with the various storylines. When I heard any Dan might have to leave RnR.
    I thought who will Maire make cupcakes with now?

    There better be a big showdown at dawn between Andy and Niall. Because I would be disappointed if there is not after this build up.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    Nope, was fine for me.

    The last episode was good one plenty of emotion in it with the various storylines. When I heard any Dan might have to leave RnR.
    I thought who will Maire make cupcakes with now?

    There better be a big showdown at dawn between Andy and Niall. Because I would be disappointed if there is not after this build up.

    For me, sometimes the subtitles come up for just a split second and are then gone before you can even read them. It's more annoying than anything. I can still understand most of what they're saying except for the Donegalers!

    I agree, brilliant episode last night. Really enjoying RnR at the moment!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    Is anyone else having issues with their subtitles lately?

    I am; they really should be fixed


  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭TenLeftFingers


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    Is anyone else having issues with their subtitles lately?

    The odd sentence gets displayed for only a fraction of a second - impossible to read. But it only happens once or twice per episode from what I remember. I wonder if it's because the wrong times were entered for that text to begin and end because that's how it works with subtitle files for movies (.srt).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    You would certainly not get the equivalent of 'cacamas' said in Fair City, Eastenders, or Coronation Street!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I tried a new trick to try and improve my Irish comprehension. I listen to RnR while at the PC and watch it again later.
    Surprisingly it works well as it forces me to really listen, and pay attention.

    I watch it again later on particularly if there was the odd word I want to check up on. Irish subtitles.

    I was also surprised how believable and genuine the characters sounded. A far cry from a lot of soaps where they over act and over do the amateur dramatics. The gas thing is that in those soaps they are probably better paid!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I obviously was aware of the Stephen Fry episode years ago as the media made a big thing of it.
    But I never saw this review/promo about it.

    It is gas. Plus really weird to see Tadhg speaking completely as Bearla.



    Diarmuid Mac an Adhastair (Séamus MT) was a character in any language.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Some sad news.

    I just found out on the show's facebook page that the actor who played Coilin, Tom Sailí Ó Flaithearta, has passed away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    branie2 wrote: »
    Some sad news.

    I just found out on the show's facebook page that the actor who played Coilin, Tom Sailí Ó Flaithearta, has passed away

    Ah jayus he was a fantastic actor. Really brought splanc to the character and made him seem real. I nearly fell over laughing at an old RnR episode where 'Collin' was exercising with bags of sugar. Or the bit where he was going on about the personalities of the little chicks he kept.

    You would almost forget he was acting which is the best compliment I pay the man. I believe his niece is Fionnuala Ní Fhlatharta - the woman who plays Berni.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Ah jayus he was a fantastic actor. Really brought splanc to the character and made him seem real. I nearly fell over laughing at an old RnR episode where 'Collin' was exercising with bags of sugar. Or the bit where he was going on about the personalities of the little chicks he kept.

    You would almost forget he was acting which is the best compliment I pay the man. I believe his niece is Fionnuala Ní Fhlatharta - the woman who plays Berni.

    That's right, she is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    R.I.P. Tom (Coilin)

    I wonder what Brian will do next....he is pure phsyco....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭maureencol


    I'm thinking that after Bernie breaks up with him, she finds out she is pregnant because he lied to her about the vasectomy. That's got to play in here somewhere. And he will probably stalk her since he seems to be such a psycho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Spoiler Alert:

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Enjoyed that last one secondary storyline of Padraig and Fiach with the Tips was funny and realistic.

    I thought it was clever the way they sort of used Vanessa (Sorcha Fox) in place of the viewer to tease out info from people Berni/Bobbi/ Lee Niall putting two and two together. For an obvious 'show down'.

    Sorcha Fox's character had a similar role as the 'link' character between storylines back in the 90's She always was 'in the know'. She is turning into 'Maire 2.0' now though getting all the gossip as the 'auld wan' and wise old head.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    Enjoyed that last one secondary storyline of Padraig and Fiach with the Tips was funny and realistic.

    I thought it was clever the way they sort of used Vanessa (Sorcha Fox) in place of the viewer to tease out info from people Berni/Bobbi/ Lee Niall putting two and two together. For an obvious 'show down'.

    Sorcha Fox's character had a similar role as the 'link' character between storylines back in the 90's She always was 'in the know'. She is turning into 'Maire 2.0' now though getting all the gossip as the 'auld wan' and wise old head.

    I was trying to figure out why Vanessa was so interested in Andy and Bobbi Lee and their son? Is there a history with her and Andy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    I was trying to figure out why Vanessa was so interested in Andy and Bobbi Lee and their son? Is there a history with her and Andy?

    Not that I know of. The impression I got is she does not think much of Bobbi Lee. Is terrified of Andy coming back and is protective of Berni.

    I think the idea (from what I took from it) is that they were foreshadowing that Nathan will draw Andy back to Bobbi Lee/Berni and get Vanessa caught up in somehow? Particularly how Vanessa is still close to Niall - who Andy hates.

    Part of me thought that Andy could kill/injure Vanessa (because she has been in RnR ages and is only a peripheral character now)

    I might be way wrong but that is where I thought it was going.

    At the end she said is there any danger Andy would come back to Ros Na Run?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    I was trying to figure out why Vanessa was so interested in Andy and Bobbi Lee and their son? Is there a history with her and Andy?

    After watching today's episode. I forgot the flipping obvious. Vanessa's grandson is Liam Óg and Vanessa wants to remove Bobbi Lee from the orbit of Niall because of that. As there is the constant link with Andy. Plus she views Nathan as a danger because of the Andy link. And also a threat to Berni.

    Judging by the camera close up Vanessa is up to something. Because if I have learnt anything from watching RnR (besides the 'cúpla focal') a camera zoom in on a character means there is something brewing!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    After watching today's episode. I forgot the flipping obvious. Vanessa's grandson is Liam Óg and Vanessa wants to remove Bobbi Lee from the orbit of Niall because of that. As there is the constant link with Andy. Plus she views Nathan as a danger because of the Andy link. And also a threat to Berni.

    Judging by the camera close up Vanessa is up to something. Because if I have learnt anything from watching RnR (besides the 'cúpla focal') a camera zoom in on a character means there is something brewing!

    She is definately up to something for sure! Even the fact that twice she said "I'm not here to ruin the wedding" or something to that effect....so what is she here for...definately up to something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    And I believe she was dating Andy at one point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    branie2 wrote: »
    And I believe she was dating Andy at one point

    Ah sure, they all do the circuit in Ros Na Run. There is never much of a pool to choose from.

    I had to laugh at the older episodes back in the 90's Seán Brennan (then head of the Radio Pobail) was basically involved with every available woman that was on screen.

    The two Donegal sisters (Áine and Sïle), a Kerry woman (Ali), and Galway woman (Catriona) who is now current head of the Radio station.
    He got a few scenes where he got to do that 'eyebrow raise' to camera.

    Mack is now basically 'Seán 2.0'.

    In very recent times. He has had two Donegal sisters (Dee and Katy - a RnR tradition?), a loose chemist (Emma), and even a normally very reserved Radio Pobail - Radio assistant (Sonia) throwing herself at him.

    And naturally he got to do that 'Seán Brennan-esque' eyebrow raise to camera a fair few times. That last one would have made Sean Connery proud nevermind Seán Brennan!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭maureencol


    "And I believe she was dating Andy at one point"

    I don't think so. She came from Dublin with her father back in the old episodes and Andy was not around at all then. She was with Robbie back then. Unless there were later episodes that I missed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    Very interesting episode tonight. Is that Caolfhoinn Imelda's daughter? What is her connection with Fiach I wonder?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭julyjane


    I somehow had a feeling imelda had another daughter, I don't know where I got the idea. If Eric is her father she might know the story about Mack and Dee already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 F.nelson


    Long time listener, first time caller.

    I watched Ros na Rún on and off for the past few years depending on if I was working in the country.

    Would someone enlighten me to who is Vanessa and who are her relations :)

    Míle Buíochas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    F.nelson wrote: »
    Long time listener, first time caller.

    I watched Ros na Rún on and off for the past few years depending on if I was working in the country.

    Would someone enlighten me to who is Vanessa and who are her relations :)

    Míle Buíochas

    Vanessa is a long time RnR character she was in RnR since the 90's

    https://rosnarun.com/vanessa-ui-chonghaile/?lang=en


    Plenty of old RnR episodes Vanessa's character appeared in the second season of the show way back in 1997.





    (Moved to Carraigstown - Fair City the odd time :D
    Plus Sorcha Fox who plays Vanessa is now a screenwriter on RnR as well)

    Bringing up to date with her current situation she has a very complicated relationship with Niall.

    Niall was her former partner. But her daughter Fia seduced Niall after plying him with drink. A son was the result. Which is Vanessa's grandson called Liam Óg. Vanessa could not stay in a relationship with Niall after she found out what Fia did. Fia later expressed her profound regret to her mother.

    Niall, Fia and Vanessa remain cordial now after patching things up. But the suspicion is Vanessa still has a fondness for Niall deep down.

    Which is part of the reason why the current situation is so tense and complicated.

    As Niall is taking care of Liam Óg as Fia has fecked off touring the world with a load of money she and a vagabond called Pól found.

    Fia was basically fed up of being tied down as a single mother. As it was hampering her ambitions in life like starting her own online fashion company.
    It died because she had to take care of her child.

    Fia has not been seen since. But according to promos is due a comeback.
    The cover story of Fia's absence told by Niall to the village is that she is studying fashion abroad to stop people asking questions.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 F.nelson


    Vanessa is a long time RnR character she was in RnR since the 90's

    https://rosnarun.com/vanessa-ui-chonghaile/?lang=en


    Plenty of old RnR episodes Vanessa's character appeared in the second season of the show way back in 1997.





    (Moved to Carraigstown - Fair City the odd time :D
    Plus Sorcha Fox who plays Vanessa is now a screenwriter on RnR as well)

    Bringing up to date with her current situation she has a very complicated relationship with Niall.

    Niall was her former partner. But her daughter Fia seduced Niall after plying him with drink. A son was the result. Which is Vanessa's grandson called Liam Óg. Vanessa could not stay in a relationship with Niall after she found out what Fia did. Fia later expressed her profound regret to her mother.

    Niall, Fia and Vanessa remain cordial now after patching things up. But the suspicion is Vanessa still has a fondness for Niall deep down.

    Which is part of the reason why the current situation is so tense and complicated.

    As Niall is taking care of Liam Óg as Fia has fecked off touring the world with a load of money she and a vagabond called Pól found.

    Fia was basically fed up of being tied down as a single mother. As it was hampering her ambitions in life like starting her own online fashion company.
    It died because she had to take care of her child.

    Fia has not been seen since. But according to promos is due a comeback.
    The cover story of Fia's absence told by Niall to the village is that she is studying fashion abroad to stop people asking questions.

    Brilliant thanks. That post has literally filled me in to everything that was confusing me. Especially how she was Liam Óg's grandmother but Bobbi Lee was having a wobbler about her trying to steal Niall


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    This new character (O'Sé's other daughter) Caoilfhionn seems like a great addition plenty of life in her.

    Echoes of early RnR when Mack was the wild child of the local guard. Who drives the parent to despair.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭maurv2


    I used to look at Ros na Run up to about 5 years ago, then sort of drifted away from it. Just started having a peep now and again recently.

    One thing that sticks out is there doesn't seem to be any sign of coveid 19 at all in it. Is that correct or did I just happen to look when it wasn't to the fore in any form or fashion :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭CassieManson


    maurv2 wrote: »
    I used to look at Ros na Run up to about 5 years ago, then sort of drifted away from it. Just started having a peep now and again recently.

    One thing that sticks out is there doesn't seem to be any sign of coveid 19 at all in it. Is that correct or did I just happen to look when it wasn't to the fore in any form or fashion :)

    No Covid in Ros na Run, not been mentioned at all. Obviousy been filmed with social distancing. It's quite a relief actually compared to Fair City in which they wear masks, but can go to the pub, and work as if there was no Covid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    I thought the last time Charlie was in it, it was revealed that she had broken up with Alex. Did they sort things out? I seem to have a very short term memory!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    I thought the last time Charlie was in it, it was revealed that she had broken up with Alex. Did they sort things out? I seem to have a very short term memory!

    I can't remember if Alex and Charlie are still together. But I do remember Charlie was leaning on Colm a lot and wanted him to get to know the baby. Which was in breach of the unwritten agreement Colm, Mo and Charlie agreed between each other.
    If I remember correctly Charlie had a change of heart feeling sorry for Mo/Colm when she was going to have a baby celebration thing for 'Colm's baby'.

    But bluffed that those who made the cake got the gender of the baby wrong, at the very last minute. To keep the secret from getting out.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    I thought the last time Charlie was in it, it was revealed that she had broken up with Alex. Did they sort things out? I seem to have a very short term memory!

    Maybe they broke up some time ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Fia's character is one I would like to see fall hard. When you think of her entire background all her own problems were of her own making. An extremely selfish character always looking out for herself. Liam Óg was only created as a result of her own nastiness and vindictiveness. Now suddenly she views him as almost a 'prize' which she can uproot when she choses. And still has the gall to feel self-pity when the little fella does not recognise her. Again all about her when it comes down to it.

    I don't really get the Vanessa/Fia dynamic. It seems a bit unbelievable that it would heal to such an extent that Vanessa would be on her side.

    A far more credible storyline would be that Vanessa wanted to take Liam Óg to raise herself. Based on the threats from Andy and could justifiably claim that Fia is an unfit mother from a social services angle.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Kauto0709


    Fia's character is one I would like to see fall hard. When you think of her entire background all her own problems were of her own making. An extremely selfish character always looking out for herself. Liam Óg was only created as a result of her own nastiness and vindictiveness. Now suddenly she views him as almost a 'prize' which she can uproot when she choses. And still has the gall to feel self-pity when the little fella does not recognise her. Again all about her when it comes down to it.

    I don't really get the Vanessa/Fia dynamic. It seems a bit unbelievable that it would heal to such an extent that Vanessa would be on her side.

    A far more credible storyline would be that Vanessa wanted to take Liam Óg to raise herself. Based on the threats from Andy and could justifiably claim that Fia is an unfit mother from a social services angle.

    Fia reminds me of Carmel in the old series. Just expecting everyone else to mind her child for her while she swans around living her best life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,905 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Kauto0709 wrote: »
    Fia reminds me of Carmel in the old series. Just expecting everyone else to mind her child for her while she swans around living her best life.

    Exactly! I have definitely noticed a pattern. Today's writers have to be going back through the old episodes looking for ideas and a character arc that has been done before.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I'm happy for Fia that she got the job


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