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M9 motorway (general thread)

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    #572
    hi5
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    Came off the Magic Bus.


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    #573
    PaulKK
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    http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/kilkenny-news/272348/two-sections-of-m9-motorway-in-kilkenny-to-close-for-six-days-of-maintenance-work.html

    Not surprising. Back to the old road again. How come they can't get this piece of road right?


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    #574
    fg1406
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    PaulKK wrote: »
    http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/kilkenny-news/272348/two-sections-of-m9-motorway-in-kilkenny-to-close-for-six-days-of-maintenance-work.html

    Not surprising. Back to the old road again. How come they can't get this piece of road right?

    Must be an annual thing at this stage?


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    #575
    road_high
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    fg1406 wrote: »
    Must be an annual thing at this stage?

    Was closed about 4/5 years ago for about a month...that section at Paulstown has sank even further, as bad if not worse than the last "repairs".
    Also the section between kk and Paulstown northbound is getting worse.
    I also thinks there's another rut between J8 and J9 near the Nore bridge.


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    #576
    JupiterKid
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    It's pretty disappointing that the M9 around Kilkenny has so many subsidence issues. It must be a problem going back to its construction when the ground wasn't allowed to settle properly. Perhaps the road was built too fast?

    Have the original contractors been called back to do a rebuild of this section?

    Didn't the M8 have a similar problem between Cahir and Michelstown? How was that dealt with?


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    #577
    radharc
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    Driving northbound just at exit 2 this morning and came across an auld fella travelling the wrong way down the fast lane , blew him out of it but he was in his own world. Absolutely lethal. Rang 999 they said they had a unit already on the way, thank god I haven't seen any report of an accident.


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    #578
    fricatus
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    Anyone know what the hell the Gardaí were doing at the layby south of Mullinavat just heading into Waterford this afternoon? The motorway was limited to one lane by cones and there were multiple cars there with the blue lights flashing, including an Audi SUV from the Armed Support Unit.


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    #579
    JohnC.
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    fricatus wrote: »
    Anyone know what the hell the Gardaí were doing at the layby south of Mullinavat just heading into Waterford this afternoon? The motorway was limited to one lane by cones and there were multiple cars there with the blue lights flashing, including an Audi SUV from the Armed Support Unit.

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/915228563284078592
    Multi Agency C-point on M9. Multiple offences detected on truck including defective tyres & lights. Court to follow


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    #580
    road_high
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    M9 motorway going to be closed at various times and various stages between J7 and J9 next week;
    http://www.kilkennycoco.ie/eng/RSSLatestNewsAndAnnouncements/Road-Closure-M9-Southbound-from-J8-Kilkenny-North-to-J9-Danesfort-8-am-to-8-pm-Wednesday-11th-of-Oct.54364.shortcut.html

    What are they doing? The closures appear pretty short in duration for anything substantial?


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    #581
    sea12
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    road_high wrote: »
    M9 motorway going to be closed at various times and various stages between J7 and J9 next week;
    http://www.kilkennycoco.ie/eng/RSSLatestNewsAndAnnouncements/Road-Closure-M9-Southbound-from-J8-Kilkenny-North-to-J9-Danesfort-8-am-to-8-pm-Wednesday-11th-of-Oct.54364.shortcut.html

    What are they doing? The closures appear pretty short in duration for anything substantial?

    Traffic diverted through Kilkenny ring road this morning. Big delays as a result.


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    #582
    road_high
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    sea12 wrote: »
    Traffic diverted through Kilkenny ring road this morning. Big delays as a result.

    It was awful this evening too, major back up on the Paulstown road roundabout in particular. I don't see why they couldn't undertake these works at night-time on weekends to minimize disruption. It's extremely frustrating. Kilkenny ring road can barely cope with it's own traffic without the M9 on top of it.
    Anyways, they are definitely working on the 2 dips between Kilkenny North and Paulstown today, saw all the tarmac crews in operation- I really hope they solve this once and for all this time.
    Southbound closed tomorrow...


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    #583
    road_high
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    Can anyone explain why the N10 link road northbound is still closed all day today? It meant even more chaos as traffic has to access the M9 via the old road again today. In addition to the southbound M9 traffic from J8 to J9 the kilkenny ring road was jammers again.
    Was it a safety issue with J8? Because the M9 is fully open again northbound, it's just the N10 that's closed to access it.


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    #584
    BelfastVanMan
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    Can someone explain to me why the N10 north of Kilkenny is not under motorway restrictions, as it leads to the M9 and nowhere else?


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    #585
    road_high
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    BelfastVanMan wrote: »
    Can someone explain to me why the N10 north of Kilkenny is not under motorway restrictions, as it leads to the M9 and nowhere else?

    Don't know the exact technical reason but it's a single carriageway national
    Primary route (so not an actual motorway itself). It does seem an anonomly but there is very clear signage warning motorway ahead and the appropriate restrictions on joining the N10. Also very clear "M9 Ahead" signage.


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    #586
    marno21
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    It should be signed as M9 outbound and N10 inbound. It's effectively a spur of the M9, so it is the M9 outbound and it leads to the N10 inbound.


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    #587
    PaulKK
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    marno21 wrote: »
    It should be signed as M9 outbound and N10 inbound. It's effectively a spur of the M9, so it is the M9 outbound and it leads to the N10 inbound.

    Agreed. Always thought it was a mistake not to make this 100km/hr dual carriageway when they had the chance also. A bit of future planning wouldn't have gone astray.


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    #588
    road_high
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    PaulKK wrote: »
    Agreed. Always thought it was a mistake not to make this 100km/hr dual carriageway when they had the chance also. A bit of future planning wouldn't have gone astray.

    Defo should be dual carriageway. I'd say the traffic figures justify one. Silly when they were building it day one.
    They had traffic counters on it during the summer actually.


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    #589
    BelfastVanMan
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    road_high wrote: »
    PaulKK wrote: »
    Agreed. Always thought it was a mistake not to make this 100km/hr dual carriageway when they had the chance also. A bit of future planning wouldn't have gone astray.

    Defo should be dual carriageway. I'd say the traffic figures justify one. Silly when they were building it day one.
    They had traffic counters on it during the summer actually.

    It could be given the 2+2 treatment pretty easily, from what I can see.


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    #590
    road_high
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    BelfastVanMan wrote: »
    It could be given the 2+2 treatment pretty easily, from what I can see.

    It's probably designed to accommodate that but it's only 6km and not a priority scheme when there's so many other more urgent roads needing attention (this only opened 7 years ago after all).


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    #591
    PaulKK
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    BelfastVanMan wrote: »
    It could be given the 2+2 treatment pretty easily, from what I can see.

    In parts true enough but the two overpass bridges I think may not have quite enough room for 2+2 between supports.

    Seems like building it right in the first place would not have added much additional cost and it would have made a proper job of it.


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    #592
    road_high
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    PaulKK wrote: »
    In parts true enough but the two overpass bridges I think may not have quite enough room for 2+2 between supports.

    Seems like building it right in the first place would not have added much additional cost and it would have made a proper job of it.

    I think they're built to accommodate 2 lanes each way already.


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    #593
    road_high
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    Nice job done on the dips between J8 and J7 Paulstown northbound. Big improvement to be fair.


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    #594
    CeilingFly
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    Planning granted for new off line services at Mullinavat.

    A little smaller than Paulstown Applegreen, but very similar in style.

    Permission granted to landowner, but I'll guess Applegreen are behind it.


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    #595
    hi5
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    CeilingFly wrote: »
    Planning granted for new off line services at Mullinavat.

    A little smaller than Paulstown Applegreen, but very similar in style.

    Permission granted to landowner, but I'll guess Applegreen are behind it.

    I would have thought Knocktopher would be better positioned from a spacing point of view, Mullinavat is not that far from Waterford.


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    #596
    road_high
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    hi5 wrote: »
    I would have thought Knocktopher would be better positioned from a spacing point of view, Mullinavat is not that far from Waterford.

    I'd imagine the thinking being it would catch business nearer Waterford. If/when Kilcullen opens we will have 4 major services on 110 km of M9...is the business there for all?
    I'd like one in Kilkenny personally adjacent to the N10. I think that would do well.


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    #597
    rameire
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    The Kilcullen services will be majorly beneficial for Athy Traffic that use the new link road to the M9.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



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    #598
    CeilingFly
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    hi5 wrote: »
    I would have thought Knocktopher would be better positioned from a spacing point of view, Mullinavat is not that far from Waterford.

    Not really - think of all the bellview port traffic and traffic from dungarvan using the bypass. On top of that there's no fuel station in Mullinavat. So perfect location imo.


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    #599
    road_high
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    CeilingFly wrote: »
    Not really - think of all the bellview port traffic and traffic from dungarvan using the bypass. On top of that there's no fuel station in Mullinavat. So perfect location imo.

    Yes but Mullinavat is the next junction up the M9. It's not on the N25 junction so won't necessarily get that traffic.


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    #600
    road_high
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    rameire wrote: »
    The Kilcullen services will be majorly beneficial for Athy Traffic that use the new link road to the M9.

    Well it is the busiest stretch of the M9, ADDT of 23,000 vehicles between Kilcullen and Ballitore exits.


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    #601
    marno21
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    road_high wrote: »
    Yes but Mullinavat is the next junction up the M9. It's not on the N25 junction so won't necessarily get that traffic.
    The success of the Birdhill M7 services, and the planned M6 services near Rathmorrissey (this will cater for north/south traffic too) then there may be feasibility for an offline service area at Mullinavat.


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