rubadub wrote: » Great, I guessed you wouldn't, now can you realise why you calling peoples wages insulting may be very insulting to them? Or do you just not give a shit? Do you know any gardai? would you tell them to their face you think their wages are an insult?
KatW4 wrote: » I'm a teacher and guess how much I made in 2015? 18 thousand euro. Thankfully I don't have to pay rent or I don't know what I'd do. We don't have the same holidays as the children because we have to go on courses, set our classrooms up, make plans and fill in forms. I am so sick and tired of people telling me that I don't deserve to be paid like a normal person, or teachers who have worked for a few more years than me, because I have more holidays than others. It makes me so bloody angry that people who aren't in the profession can make judgements like this. I'm sorry for the angry post but I'm fed up of reading this sort of thing all of the time.
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » They still get 2 months of "breaks", they just have to meet the deadline. They still prepare for classes during these breaks too.
Martypants1 wrote: » There are people being paid 18k or less for working more hours than you. Absolute disgrace you are saying anyone who is paid that kind of money isn't normal. Did you not know the pay before training to become a teacher? Are you just getting paid for 9 months and you don't have a permanent job? Just like many other people in the country?
mulbot wrote: » Really? I know a woodwork teacher who's flat out roofing during his breaks,and another female who goes off around Europe every Summer,which i believe is quite a popular choice among a lot of teachers
Martypants1 wrote: » Don't forget the teachers doing grinds for money in the hand during easter breaks, halloween breaks, summer breaks.
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » Martypants1, teachers deserve the pay they get. They work not only 5 days a week, but at the weekends too. Correcting essays, arranging classes and going to hours of pointless meetings. Not to mention having to deal with the same little brats every week, with nothing done about them. In the summer, when they correct the JC and LC, they spent up to 8 hours a day for a little over a month correcting exams, with little to no breaks.
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » Oh, what about the LUAS drivers with their 6 week courses?
Martypants1 wrote: » Luas drivers are ****. I don't support them either. What's your point. You're not answering any of my questions Caoimhin. I'm out.
doireannod wrote: » 8 hours is a standard day. Most of us work more than that. Everyday. Right through the summer. Every year. Not optional. Not paid extra. The idea that someone considers an 8 hour day arduous and commendable is ridiculous.
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » What questions did you ask that I did not respond to? Also, CaoimhGHÍn.
Martypants1 wrote: » Teachers are so detached from the real world it's unreal.
Martypants1 wrote: » For example. Why are teachers who want equal pay not shouting for the higher paid teachers to lower their pay?
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » They feel the starting pay is too low, which I agree with. I feel like they should go half way between new teacher and old teacher pay, and keep it there.
Martypants1 wrote: » They haven't been saying that. They've been saying they want to be paid the same as others for doing the same work.
mulbot wrote: » What is starting pay now if you don't mind me asking?
tayto lover wrote: » I do know a few AND they know their wages are poor. Same with teachers, nurses and firemen. I don't have to tell them, they tell me. They are also telling you in here.
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » Primary or Secondary?
mulbot wrote: » Secondary
rubadub wrote: » The teachers, nurses & gardai I know do not complain. I know 2 teachers who were discussing their work and agreed they considered it a form of seasonal work, since in their time off they get to do other jobs. I have heard nurses, teachers and people in all sorts of other jobs complain about the likes of luas drivers being overpaid, which I also think is ridiculous, but its a complaint they are unnecessarily overpaid, and the stupidity of it. Maybe you would consider such discussions as them complaining that their "wages are poor", I certainly would not. The evidence is clear to see, people are still lining up for these "insulting" wages, for blatantly obvious reasons. If someone told me they consider my wages insulting I would think them to be a rude, snide & sneering disrespectful cunt.
Martypants1 wrote: There are people being paid 18k or less for working more hours than you. Absolute disgrace you are saying anyone who is paid that kind of money isn't normal. Did you not know the pay before training to become a teacher? Are you just getting paid for 9 months and you don't have a permanent job? Just like many other people in the country?
KatW4 wrote: » I'm a teacher and guess how much I made in 2015? 18 thousand euro. Thankfully I don't have to pay rent or I don't know what I'd do.
Inspector Coptoor wrote: » http://www.asti.ie/pay-and-conditions/pay/salary-scales/salary-scale-for-teachers-appointed-after-february-1-2012/
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » It may have changed slightly, but on full hours (which are very hard to get, especially at the beginning) the starting salary is 28k per year.
