CORKDOUBLE wrote: » Lads where is TTM lets face his knowledge of all things Cork GAA and GAA in general was unreal ...please come back we could do with you !
Pos087 wrote: » So true and I miss the arguing.
Corcaigh Abu1 wrote: » I'd love to know what ttm is thinking now as its a mixed bag of players he was advocating /against playing now. EG. john Cronin, Haughney, Lawton, Burke etc. Cork conceded 9 118 over the five games in the league.. That's simply astonishing for a county of our tradition.
Pos087 wrote: » Any one else have ideas to our down fall.
Pos087 wrote: » He might of been right that this players deserve a shot but the fact that they are not good enough either is clear to see.
clerk wrote: » Hurling falling to pieces in the City or being allowed to fall to pieces in the City. Some great work being put in now underage but it has created a huge void in Cork inter County hurling. Competition with rugby now is massive in Cork City, that simply wasn't there 20 Years ago. Sweetnam for example could have been a massive player for the Cork hurlers but now he is starting to break into the Munster team. The fact is a lot of the parents l talk to want their kids to play for Munster, a lot of the previous generation wanted to win All-Ireland's with Cork. lt's not just Cork it's Nation wide, rugby is booming in Connacht and some of the players are the kids of former All-Ireland winners, Rugby is taking off in a serious way in Thurles, even Killarney, it's winning the battle for the hearts and minds to a huge extent. WelcomGo on Skypee to a gaa Limerick mans world Ridiculous arrogance and time wrap attitudes of the powers that be in Cork City that were ultimately built on sandcastles in the air. We're miles behind Dublin now in terms of resources put into development officers. Caught in a time wrap of playing for the jersey. Play for the jersey yes, but why should you be out of pocket. Times have moved on. Reading Ward's autobiography at the moment and the same time wrap amateurism was in rugby not so long ago. The CCB needs to move with the times. The manager of Cork hurlers/footballer needs to be re-imbursed for the ridiculous efforts involved. Players should be given 'out of pocket' expenses. No centre of excellence. I would be quite happy to downsize P ui C if it meant a centre of excellence and resource for development officers. It's sad really, l've been banging on for Years about it. I love the hurling but the results speak for themselves over the last decade and it will be another decade the way things are going. When we're going to get our centre of excellence is a total farce. Surreal really.
CORKDOUBLE wrote: » Every game now we play teams can nearly score 50 times against us this is mad unreal 2-22 average score against us in the league so far ...the football is no different teams can score at least 20 scores against us 2-15 the average score against the footballers this year whats gone wrong with our teams cant win underage or club or schools championships anymore either ...we are gone so soft ..the killing thing is in both codes we have some fantastic talent as good as there is in the country ...unless we get a cutting edge to our play we can forget it and another shocking year of losses is in store ...REBELS wakeup.
seventh7 wrote: » Cork hurling is clinging on ideas and ideals from the past its a form of blindness to the reality of the changes in the modern game. Unlike other games hurling requires a distinct physicality and highly honed instincts. Perceptions of space and the ability to use that space are paramount to success in the modern game. Possession and the use of that possession is key. Cork has always been able to produce exceptional players but in recent years there would appear to be a drought. We can’t tackle, we can’t win the ball consistently and our marquee forwards live of scraps. Cork hurling needs a vision or a mission statement. Exceptional teams need exceptional coaches and in Cork we have grafters and very willing guys to take on the challenges but we do not have exceptional coaches. We need to look outside the box perhaps outside the county and find that coach. Why not. What have we got to lose we are going nowhere fast. We entrust our minor teams our player nurseries to coaches who have had no tangible success year after year and expect results. In panic we enlist the help of past players and hope they will add the missing ingredient. Our summer will be hopeful and nothing more. We are quite simply not at the races in any grade. I have seen hundreds training sessions including a very large amount of development squad sessions over the last four years and I have never seen a Cork mentor or coach show a player how to tackle or how to maintain correct body position when trying to win dirty ball in any grade. We are unable to win first phase possession which is so vital in the modern game. It has been our downfall and will continue to do so until we address the issue.We also have a fixation with lightweight players, I believe Jimmy Barry Murphy believed he needed greyhounds but in truth we need a cross with a pit-bull. We are physically soft we can raise the intensity for once off game but we can’t sustain the effort over the long term. We need to select horses for courses and we don’t. We need to nurture the kids with fire in their bellies and bring them through. We don’t. We select the dandies and the dancers when we need warriors. If we had a few Niall Mac’s we would be in a lot better place. I could name four or five that have huge future potential but have been ignored as they don’t fit the current mould. Moulds change and so do ideas. We need very quickly a change of ideas and we need to break the mould.
rebel girl 15 wrote: » I read the pieces about the hurlers and footballers having no pitch to train on - in this day and age, are the county board serious?? Going cap in hand to clubs to sort them out is madness! From Pat Muls piece "And Cork didn’t train on pitches before they started the league — they had nowhere to train. I spoke to Kieran Kingston about this and they were using the fourth pitch in Mallow. So they had nothing done, which is a disgrace, from a facilities perspective" From the interview with Eoin O Neill - "The weather was a major issue for us at the start of the year in getting access to pitches. At the end of the day, we are very grateful to the clubs that supported us. We had to go cap in hand to a lot of clubs last minute,” O’Neill admitted" Can anyone explain why the likes of UCC's The Farm and CIT, where afaik Cork have trained before were not looked for? That CCB response is absolute rubbish!! A selector and a man close to the hurling set up wouldn't go to the papers very easily like that unless there was a problem - the entire board would want to have their heads checked with what is going on. There are times when talking to someone about GAA that I'm nearly ashamed to say I'm from Cork with the rubbish going on
lukin wrote: » Real possibility that both the Cork footballers and hurlers will both be relegated on the same day this coming Sunday.
clerk wrote: » As far as l know the footballers are safe. It would need both Mayo (probable), Monaghan (possible), Kerry (probably) to win to get all 3 (Mayo/Monaghan/Cork) to 6 points but as far as l know it then goes to the head to heads and Cork have beaten both Mayo and Monaghan in this campaign so are safe. More tellingly if they lose to Kerry they'll have come up short against the top 4 teams in the league.
windy shepard henderson wrote: » points difference if 3 teams or more are level , only head to head if two teams are tied
lukin wrote: » Are you sure it goes down to the head-to-head record if ourselves,Mayo and Monaghan finish level on points?I thought it goes down to scoring difference first and then head-to-head results?
DDC1990 wrote: » If Mayo, Monaghan and Kerry win then Cork go down, regardless of scores. With Cork on -11 and the other two on -12 any win for Mayo and Monaghan combined with a loss for Cork would swing the points difference against Cork. A win and ye could make the Semi Finals (if Donegal lose).
clerk wrote: » Looks like I was wrong, apologies.
Boom__Boom wrote: » If 2 teams are level on points it's head-to-head, if 3 or more are on the same points then it's scoring difference.
