Jamie2k9 wrote: » I'm sure you have some good points but was railway sq not more retail? As for apartment living, I agree to an extend but if they are big enough they work. Nobody will likely live in one forever but if your young they are perfectly fine. Office Space size is a big issue and there is no real big space in Waterford to attract companies who may create like 200 jobs etc which you see announced in Dublin every few weeks. The real problem is lack of work from the IDA outside Cork/Galway/Dublin or the stroke politics which suddenly say hundreds of jobs going to Nenagh because Kelly was going to lose his seat. I don't for a second believe such a company would of set up there.
looksee wrote: » I can't see why any developer would want to put in planning permission, given the chances of a random serial objector putting his spoke in.
Deise Vu wrote: » I don't want to be a Jonah, I am trying to be realistic. There is a massive office complex on the Cork Road behind the Motor Mile. More offices out by the Holy Cross and Carriganore and tons dotted around the City, let alone easy-to-develop sites such as the old Crystal factory. There is a world of a difference between jobs announcements, particularly around election time, and actual results. I just cannot see any developer in the current environment taking a chance on some wandering FDI, nor any bank backing it. Short (medium / Long ?) term there should be some sort of a public amenity or park. Anything would better than the old eyesore anyway.
dzilla wrote: » Very little suitable modern office in the city centre outside of Maritana Gate
robtri wrote: » plenty of modern or easily converted to modern office space... Maritana gate not that special IMHO.. big problem with the available office space is parking and size, biggest is 20,000 sq ft at the moment out there ..... most compnaies wnat to be able to offer there employees parking, as this is a huge issue for prospective employees.. Railway square has none, Behind motor mall has crap spaces, car parking on offer is scattered all over the place and really unsuitable, also its with NAMA.... and no one wants to deal with them if they can... Holy Cross front building is full.... not sure on the other building in the back...
cookie.monster wrote: » it has a car park underneath
robtri wrote: » well last year looking at it, was told by agent only a couple of spots (literally a couple) available with it.
O Riain wrote: » Well you also said Maritana gate was nothing special and I know of two companies in there who are very happy with it.
robtri wrote: » plenty of modern or easily converted to modern office space... Maritana gate not that special IMHO.. big problem with the available office space is parking and size, biggest is 20,000 sq ft at the moment out there ..... most compnaies wnat to be able to offer there employees parking, as this is a huge issue for prospective employees.. Railway square has none, Behind motor mall has crap spaces, car parking on offer is scattered all over the place and really unsuitable, also its with NAMA.... and no one wants to deal with them if they can... Holy Cross front building is full.... not sure on the other building in the back..
AdMMM wrote: Car Parking shouldn't matter for city centre developments. Google only have 80 car parking spaces in their Dublin offices on Barrow Street which house over 5000 people now.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Dublin has far better public transport than
AdMMM wrote: » Well I think any large-scale development would have to be built with public transport in mind or a private solution provided. In many industrial estates and office parks in Dublin, private shuttle buses are run to accommodate workers while Dublin Bus run buses through certain office parks around rush hour as well.
Max Powers wrote: » The north quays are beside the train station, across from the bus station and in the city centre, pubic transport is not a an issue IMO, themore you think about it, its just a deadly spot for a small IFSC /type place, the lack of political weight and funds is the main issues.in general we don't have public transport problems in city centre a lot of the buses are running half empty a lot of the time, until we start using it, more buses/routes are not gonna happen.
AdMMM wrote: » What good is it being beside a train station that doesn't enable you to be in Waterford until 9:40am in the morning? And you don't think that's a problem? Yes, it might be right across from the bus station but that's then still a 12 minute walk across the bridge which wouldn't be the most fun thing on rainy mornings, especially given how exposed that bridge is. My whole point was around needing to arrange something convenient for workers i.e. having some buses service that area around rush hour. An example would be the 75 bus route in Dublin that takes a five minute diversion through the Sandyford Office Park before 9am and after 5pm which drops and picks up at various stops around the park before carrying on its normal route. You say we don't have public transport issues but would you not concede that the Kenneally's Bus service on the Dunmore Road for a start is completely undependable? Buses may be half empty but do you not stop and think that this might just be because they're unreliable?
cgcsb wrote: » It really doesn't relative to it's size. In Dublin you're talking over an hour from the edge to the Centre. Waterford buses hardly take 20 mins to get from the edge to the centre.
JohnC. wrote: » This is from Friday Streetview image for comparison. You can see some sheds (where the demolition crane is now) are gone and some work started on the end of the big building.
JohnC. wrote: » Friday.
