Gamebred wrote: » You have a yellow belt? wtf where do you train and what age are you
yourdeadwright wrote: » A yellow belt in BJJ ??
bur wrote: » His JJ is actually serviceable while he has energy. Fight ended the way it did because Nate was boxing the head off him by the end and Conor took the simplest way out of the fight by offering the RNC.
Irishcrx wrote: » Very good spot actually , before Conor gets hit with that straight left I'm fairly sure Nate was throwing half shots to lure him in , I think he even slapped him accross the face and taunted him , Conor came at him and left himself open and that's when he hit him with the full force straight that pretty much KO'd him and led to the end of the fight.
Kev_2012 wrote: » I'm watching MMA about 15 years and the first things I noticed is that he was off his game going to 170, but he looked decent in the first round although he was overstretching looking for a knockout and wasting a lot of energy. However, Diaz is one tough SOB. He has deceptively strong punches and his ground game was excellent. Conor's ground game is rubbish. I honestly don't know how he is a brown belt in BJJ. The first things you learn are don't give away your back ever and he didn't even attempt to drop his chin and attempt to stop Diaz from locking in the choke. I'm glad this was a non title fight and at an uncomfortable weight for him. I guarantee that he will come back much much better as a result of this. Having said all that, many of the UFC fighters are a bit clueless when it comes to Jiu jitsu basics! I have only a yellow belt (I missed 2 gradings due to injury :mad: ), but they seem to be devoid of basic submission reversals.
Swashbuckler wrote: » It hasn't been overlooked. It's just been lost in the tonne of garbage posted in this thread over the last few days. He was gassed because he was putting everything into his punches. Every punch he threw was as much as he could put into it. That's what he means by inefficient . You throw 60 or 70 full force punches in 5 minutes and see how fit you feel after it.
irishguy1983 wrote: » Bottom line is he was gassed by round 2 - that is a joke. I'm more familiar with tennis/rugby shall we say - if a professional tennis player was tired after 1 set I'd say that's a joke and you need to look at yourself - I couldn't care about words like efficient of inefficient.
Gamebred wrote: » There would be no reaction,the same way when he ko'd Aldo the blow ins werent posting about it.
J Mysterio wrote: » You're obsessed with 'blow-ins'. Its really immature and frankly, embarassing. As if the fact that you nay have been involved in something (anything) for a slightly longer time period awarded you with some sort of ownership of ot to the exclusion of others. Do you want a medal?
J Mysterio wrote: » You're obsessed with 'blow-ins'. Its really immature and frankly, embarassing. As if the fact that you nay have been involved in something (anything) for a slightly longer time period awarded you with some sort of ownership of ot to the exclusion of others. Do you want a medal? I'd rather read posts by people asking 'what time is the fight is on?' then the elitist waffle that you post.
Swashbuckler wrote: » There's a difference between new people to the sport and people who come in here just to look for a reaction in the McGregor forum. Maybe I'm wrong but when Gamebred says blowins it is in reference to the latter.
Martypants1 wrote: » Says it all that you called it the McGregor forum!
Rayne Wooney wrote: » Do fighters have much extra income outside the UFC? Just looking at the pay break down some on $10,000, $15,000, doesn't look to be very lucrative. The plastic surgery to fix your face at the end of each year would cost more :pac:
Swashbuckler wrote: » But it's not bottom line. You're completely oversimplifying. You can't compare mma with tennis or rugby. Two completely different animals. I'm pretty sure I'd manage a set of tennis handy enough. But throw me into an octagon and ask me to start swinging while the guy opposite me tries to take my head off and I'd manage about two minutes I would say.
irishguy1983 wrote: » I think it is the bottom line - he needs to be able to go more than 2 rounds - it's as simple as that.
Tazzimus wrote: » It really, really isn't. Try knocking someone out for 5 minutes with everything you've got while getting punched back and see how fresh you feel for the second 5 minutes.. I'd be amazed if you even lasted the first 3.
riffmongous wrote: » You could apply that to any other sport too though, and you still have to be fit enough to last the entire game
irishguy1983 wrote: » I think it is the bottom line - he needs to be able to go more than 2 rounds - it's as simple as that. MMA requires 5 rounds and 5 minutes....Football requires you to be fit for 90 minutes....Rugby is 80 minutes...Do you think in other sports they tolerate someone saying they can only last 40% of what is required? I get what you are saying and it is not quite as simple as above - however not far off it - he should be able to go for 25 mins or at the bloody least not be so tired after 2 rounds where it appeared he kind of tapped out a bit early and a bit too quickly - maybe because he was so tired.
Swashbuckler wrote: » Well on the tap he wasn't escaping that. Not a chance. That was as sinked in as it gets. Game over. Nothing to be gained by not tapping. It's easy say he should be able to go 25 mins but it just doesn't work that way. There's a guy like Diaz punching you in the face, kneeing you to the chest and stomach etc. The gas tank will empty. Couple that with the other factors like Conor overloading on punches and it's no surprise he was wrecked. The rugby or tennis analogy just doesn't work in this case.
irishguy1983 wrote: » Why are you involving me?! Sure I'm not trained for that kind of activity - McGregor is meant to be - I understand it is gruelling but he should be able to go for more than 2 rounds and not look so tired.
irishguy1983 wrote: » We will have to agree to disagree so but he should be fitter in my eyes and maybe should prepare better.
Swashbuckler wrote: » He fought Max Holloway for three rounds a few years back and was fresh as a daisy after. There are different types of fights. MMA is different to other sports in that sense. I'll humour you for a second with the sports analogies so. You've seen five set tennis matches where a player looks fresh at the end and then other gruelling matches where they are absolutely wrecked. In rugby a player could take some massive hits during a game and he's no way lasting 80 mins. McGregor is super fit. But there are other factors involved other than simply saying "he's a professional athlete, he should be fitter". But I have a feeling that yes, we will have to agree to disagree.
RedemptionZ wrote: » Gassing after the first round isn't really acceptable. It means your entire game plan is knocking or subbing the opponent in the first round. Which is stupid. It shows a real lack of diversity in your game and is the kind of thing fighters who have more explosive athletic ability than skill use.
Tazzimus wrote: » I never said it was acceptable, I was just trying to explain why he did. Like you just said, it was a stupid game plan, something he's aware of now and (hopefully) won't repeat
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