Pro. F wrote: » Have you watched them and do you know what ages they are?
M!Ck^ wrote: » There are more viable options that you may think; Kane / Lukaku / Di Natale / Icardi / Aduriz / Ighalo / Eder / Higuan / Santos / Cavani / Vardy /
sky88 wrote: » It seems to be more of giggs friends who are saying he should get the job. One thing that annoys me with most pundits in england is how when its a foreign coach they will turn on him no problem but when its a British or Irish coach like rodgers they plead in the media how they need more time. Rodgers like LVG it was time to go but they were still hoping rodgers kept his job.
Pro. F wrote: » LVG has been given an incredibly easy ride at United from the mediaboard.
M!Ck^ wrote: » Yes I have watched them recently, those few you pointed out are older I admit. Rooney is in the same bracket if that's what your getting at.
Pro. F wrote: » Rooney is 30. Aduriz is 35 and Di Natale is 38. That is not the same bracket!
Mitch Connor wrote: » I reckon Giggs is simply very highly rated within the club and it was an attempt at succession planning to have him learn from LVG - with the idea being LVG would right the ship, get us competitive again and then hand the reigns over to Giggs after 3 years for a relatively seemless transition. I wouldn't think it was down to a though LVG would be accepting bungs or anything like that.
Giggsy11 wrote: » He is a poacher, his all round game make Hernandez look like a Suarez. It's just a waste of money to sign him when we had Hernandez who was better player and more experienced. Good striker though as he scores goals which is the most important attribute for striker but we should be aiming for better players IMO.
Pro. F wrote: » I think your understanding about how much influence these journalists have is incorrect. Unless you are just saying that they have influence over other journalists. I also think your view of how much popular support there is for the he idea of Giggs becoming next manager is incorrect. You have also failed to address the fact that it was LVG who has been the most important source for the idea of Giggs being the next manager.
v3ttel wrote: » On what basis is he casting a shadow? The man has barely spoken to the media since the LVG has taken over. His role is largely behind the scenes. He's not ranting and raving (rightly or wrongly) and looking to be the center of attention during games. He is sitting quietly on the bench beside the man he is supposed to be helping. As far as I can see, he's done nothing to bring attention to himself or undermine the manager. It's the media who are pushing that agenda. He is a club legend, but he is not the right person to be the next manager based on his lack of experience. I don't buy the whole "Giggs is a distraction and casting a shadow" bollocks that the media are pushing. LVG is the biggest part of the problem.
TheDoc wrote: » Yeah when I said influence, I meant on other journalists. Numerous mid ranking journalists will reference the higher ranking ones, or pundits, as some form of validation for their arguement Giggs should get the job. I'm also pretty confident that from both the theme here on this forum, and in my circle of United supporting friends, there is little to no support for Giggs to get the job on a fulltime basis. however that is the point I'm trying to convey here in text. The stories keep circulating, the opinion pieces keep coming. So whilst it is evident to us that on this forum and in our circle of friends that the idea is pretty outragous, there must be strong local support in the stadium or among the big supporter groups, or journalists would not keep pushing the narrative and shaping their opinion pieces around Giggs. And I know Van Gaal said that Giggs would be the next manager, when Martial signed. But I didn't take that as anything anymore then Van Gaal supporting his assistant who has managerial aspirations, as many other managers have done. I didn't take it as some form of confirmation Giggs would be taking over
Pro. F wrote: » It is a fairly common sentiment that I have heard plenty of times from managers, coaches and executives; the idea that clubs should exercise healthy oversight in their operations; the importance of being stable, independent of any one manager and having consistent codes of practice that are followed. It is also a common sentiment in the world of management outside of football. I'm surprised that this would be a news to anybody, or that you would equate this idea with theories about power struggles at the club. Managers accept oversight or they're not given jobs. It's a simple equation for them. And no, it wouldn't be presented as baldly as you describe.
I am confident that Fergie is responsible for the two managerial appointments. Given his history with those two managers and how he talked about the process of choosing Moyes I see no reason to believe that somebody else is calling the shots. His position on the board is irrelevant. If the shot callers want to they can pay anybody to choose the next manager for them.
I certainly hope that it is Fergie who is doing the choosing (preferable with some oversight from Charlton), I don't know why you would want anybody else at the club doing it.
Pretty much all the reporting is made up and clueless as to what is going on behind the scenes at United. You have said that many times yourself. Your theories are based on these media stories.
Pro. F wrote: » Doc, are you including suggestions for Giggs to be made caretaker manager as part of the clamour for him?
astradave wrote: » Is there going to be a press conference at all before the FA Cup game?
kstand wrote: » It is a disgrace that there hasnt been anything from the club in the last few months in relation to the total and utter shambles out on the field.
TheDoc wrote: » But that is what I mean. It's allowed became a sideshow and a circus. Ex-players publicly supporting Giggs to replace Van Gaal. Frequent stories and opinion pieces on why Giggs should take over. The fact we have had pages of debate since November about the validaty of Giggs taken over, is the consequence of the clamour I described. It's not coming from fans, but its coming from elsewhere. All the Van Gaal sacked stories in December, all came with a mention of Giggs or some form or outline as to what he will be doing. Aslong as Giggs continues on the bench, any manager that begins to flounder, will immediately have to start dealing with the issue of Giggs being a manager of waiting. It doesn't matter where it comes from, the issue is that it arises. And the club are being extremely poor in dealing with it, and managing it.
zorro2566 wrote: » The Daily Star jumping the gun again!http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/495689/Manchester-United-Transfer-News-Jose-Mourinho-Louis-van-Gaal
Lord TSC wrote: » Jose speaks...Jose Mourinho: "I'm not looking for a club, clubs are looking for me. I want to clarify, I won’t be in charge at Inter next season." Mourinho: “My next club? I really don’t know, but one thing is certain: I love football and I’ll return to the touchline." Mourinho: “Right now I have respect for every Coach and every club. I’m not looking for a club, it’s the clubs who are looking for me.”https://twitter.com/UnitedPeoplesTV/status/700715952376303616 Funny how quick he's come out to deny the links to Inter, but not a word about United
astradave wrote: » The full post is by Castles again.http://twitter.com/DuncanCastles/status/700720943245557761
Headshot wrote: » Didnt he say Inter wanted Jose for the job or somthing along those lines Good auld Castles, found out again. What a troll
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