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Is Jimmy Magee full of himself ?

Ally Dick

Jesus H Christ. Watching him on the 7 O'Clock show on TV3. He is doing an unscripted show in Virginia soon. He gave Pele his name ! Did he help Noah load the ark as well ?

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Ally Dick

UrbanFret wrote: »

He never claimed to have given pele his name, he tells the story of a missionary priest who explained to kids that football was peile in Irish and it started from there.

He DID claim that on the 7 O'Clock show. He then said he would explain it further during his live show in Virginia....he must be performing in Richard Corrigan's new pad

DEFTLEFTHAND

I'd wonder is he as knowledgeable as he makes out he is. He has come out with some ridiculously ignorant statements in the past while commentating.

Also had a weird obsession with the boxer Bernard Dunne if I remember correctly.

Fleawuss

My name is URL wrote: »

I'd sooner listen to him than you

No offence of course :pac:

Off you go then. Log off. Stay tuned to RTE for evermore. Good riddance.

MaroonAndGreen

UrbanFret wrote:

He never claimed to have given pele his name, he tells the story of a missionary priest who explained to kids that football was peile in Irish and it started from there.

Bull, read Pele's autobiography, he had the name from when he was a little kid, one of his father's friends first called him Pele.

What an idiot Magee is if he's claiming that

Cienciano

Probably is full of himself, but who cares? Let him at it.

Aidric

Jimmy was a great commentator and analyst in his time but he made the mistake of not retiring when his stock was high. Johnny Giles made the same mistake.

Beechwoodspark

Agree. Jimmy didn't know when to quit. He was good in his day but now???...

For Forks Sake

Aidric wrote: »

Jimmy was a great commentator and analyst in his time but he made the mistake of not retiring when his stock was high.

Just after the first Panhellenic Games then?

Technique

UrbanFret wrote: »

He never claimed to have given pele his name, he tells the story of a missionary priest who explained to kids that football was peile in Irish and it started from there.

I stupidly told this story to a few Brazilian work colleagues a few years ago. They looked quizically at me before explaining that he got the nickname because of the way that he pronounced Bile, a goalkeeper for the local team.

Thanks, Jimmy :-(

Morgans

Had Michelle Smith as one of Irelands greatest sporting moments video. Jimmy is old school. Time moves on but not sure anyone is still calling him the Memory Man anymore.

Aidric

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Just after the first Panhellenic Games then?

Some say Jimmy is a white walker.

Armchair Andy

What was that quiz show where he used come on as a guest on as an "ASK JIMMY" section?

How did i watch that sh1t.

Strumms

I can think of a long list of people in Irish broadcasting and public life who deserve the ire and flack the poor Jimmy is getting and a lot more besides. Its not as if he is all over our media 24/7 and has at least been there and done it so to speak as regards observing and commentating on the greatest sporting events over several decades... the fact that tax payers money goes towards paying that cúnt Joe Duffy a 6 figure wage for his daily hospital radio pissing and moaning session...

Hitchens

I never thought of him as a great commentator on either soccerball or boxfighting

Morrissey

He was shaking hands in Scartaglin for a charity event in 1995 and inviting members of the public to ask him questions. He didn't answer mine, which was about the best way to clean up after masturbating. Jokes on him, because I already knew. You wipe it on your hands and then shake hands with RTÉ personalities.

Ally Dick

I heard a story that was supposed to have happened during the 1994 World Cup in the States. Some Dubs were out on the beer all night and got lost. They decided to sit down on a park bench. It was morning. Jimmy Magee walked past. One of them said "Memory man, can you remember where the f@ck I'm staying?"

Morrissey

Didn't he get into a scrap with Nigel Benn?

Aidric

Whatever else you say about him he still seems to have gravitas. I saw him on the red carpet earlier this week in Zurich at the Ballon D'or. He looked shockingly pale but still displaying the eagerness of a cub reporter.

SEPT 23 1989

He needs to lay off the pipe for a while

UrbanFret

In a recent interview with Miriam O’Callaghan, the ‘Memory Man’ Magee explained how a 20 minute meeting ran into three-quarters of an hour as the two discussed their love of football.

Pelé revealed that he didn’t know the meaning of the nickname he had inherited as a schoolboy. It was Magee who proffered a hypothesis.

“I had an idea. I gave him a story that an Irish-speaking missionary priest was in Brazil in Pelé’s poor part where he was born and raised.”

Watching the young Edson play on the street with a ball of paper, the priest remarked on the “buachaill ag imirt peile (boy playing football),” and on hearing the phrase, the local women began calling the boy “Pelé.”

Magee himself labelled the tall tale ‘a cock-and bull story’ but a plausible one, and Pelé agreed that it was indeed possible.

According to Magee, the theory appeared in a subsequent book by Pelé, and the account is referred to in many articles on the origin of the player’s famous nickname.

The more generally accepted version, however, was repeated in the 2006 autobiography ‘Pelé.’
young pele

Pelé images: @Pele

Originally called ‘Dico’ by his family, the story started with a fellow team member of Edson’s father João Ramos do Nascimento at the Vasco de São Lourenço football club in Minas Gerais. The goalkeeper was known as “Bilé” and as a boy, Edson (named after Thomas Edison) would watch the team training, sometimes standing in goal pretending to defend a shot.

It was the youngster’s mispronunciation of the word ” Bilé” to something resembling “Pilé that saw the name stick. When the family subsequently moved to Bauru, a class-mate began to tease the young Edson with the nickname becoming “Pelé”

In later years, the icon told a German newspaper that he hated the label so much, he punched the classmate who came up with it, earning a two-day suspension from school.

“Over the years I’ve learnt to live with two persons in my heart,” he said. “One is Edson, who has fun with his friends and family; the other is the football player Pelé. I didn’t want the name. Pelé sounds like baby-talk in Portuguese.”

It later emerged that the word means ‘miracle’ in the Hebrew language, a description that seems apt for the Brazilian boy who embarked on an extraordinary rise to global stardom.

Also known as Perola Negra (the Black Pearl), Pelé joined Santos FC as a 15-year-old and was promoted to the senior side after just one year, scoring on his début against Corinthians. Ten months after signing professionally, the teenager was called up to the Brazilian national team. Catapulted onto the world stage, he went on to become the player regarded by many as the greatest of all time, and the name Pelé became synonymous with the beautiful game itself.

JupiterKid

I know Jimmy personally and I can say that he's a lovely man. Very charming and always has a good story to tell.

His knowledge of sport is pretty encyclopaedic!

Liamario

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'd wonder is he as knowledgeable as he makes out he is. He has come out with some ridiculously ignorant statements in the past while commentating.

Also had a weird obsession with the boxer Bernard Dunne if I remember correctly.

He did indeed and when Bernard was getting beaten in his title defence, Jimmy was still calling it in his favour. I lost all respect for him then.

liam7831

JupiterKid wrote: »

I know Jimmy personally and I can say that he's a lovely man. Very charming and always has a good story to tell.

His knowledge of sport is pretty encyclopaedic!

Ya I will give him that, the only thing he's ever forgotten is when to retire

Fleawuss

Liamario wrote: »

He did indeed and when Bernard was getting beaten in his title defence, Jimmy was still calling it in his favour. I lost all respect for him then.

But if you believe you know everything and your opinion has the weight of the gods you can change the result by......commentating. Typical RTE "personality".

paleoperson

JupiterKid wrote: »

His knowledge of sport is pretty encyclopaedic!

I remember seeing him on a quizshow there (actually having to answer), looking to see what sort of "memory man" (as he was termed) he was, and shur he didn't have a clue half the time. He also said something like if you retire you might as well not get up or I can't remember it exactly now but it was pretty crude and insulting.

I thought he might have piped down a bit at this stage, sounds like he hasn't.

mansize

Met him once in the National Stadium shortly after his wife died, absolute gent

colm_mcm

Armchair Andy wrote: »

What was that quiz show where he used come on as a guest on as an "ASK JIMMY" section?

How did i watch that sh1t.

That was "know your sport" where you could win a bag.
Think the series winner got a white Opel Corsa. They used to have a mystery guest too

Austria!

Boards would complain about god himself if he was from RTE. Nice happy old man smiling away on the tv, everyone sticks the boot in.

lee_baby_simms

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I don't know but there's a guy I know called pat MaGee. Most unfortunate name ever for him.

What about his brothers Dick and Phil?

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colm_mcm wrote: »

That was "know your sport" where you could win a bag.
Think the series winner got a white Opel Corsa. They used to have a mystery guest too

And it started at 7:30, after Cursaí, Home & Away, Jo-Maxi, and Dempsey's Den (in that order).

One of my friend's Dad was the answer to one of the questions: who was the only man to ever have played Inter County football for every province in Ireland, was the question (he was a Garda so was moved around a lot and played senior inter county football at Championship level for Waterford, Wexford, Cavan and Sligo).