deepesthole wrote: » You don't know what a commonly used English word means. You refuse to use a dictionary. You deserve it TBH. OK "strawman" means I've won this debate and you've lost. OK? Or will you look it up now?
deepesthole wrote: » Says the guy who is oblivious to every second post here. Hint: problem lies a bit closer to home.
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » That's honestly racism. You can't have a debate, all you can do is make fun of people's English, when there is no need.
Shurimgreat wrote: » All I sense from him is a hatred of most things Irish.
Dughorm wrote: » Just to clarify, the famine inspired much prose, poetry and musical composition which we do take pride in and in that sense it is part of our "collective soul" or culture. The tragedy itself is part of Irish history.
deepesthole wrote: » Mine is the same as the dictionary's. Maybe you should get back to us when you've learned enough English to partake in the conversation?
Shurimgreat wrote: » I have no clue what you are talking about to be honest.
Shurimgreat wrote: » Who said only good things make a culture?
deepesthole wrote: » Hang on a second, I was just told culture was only the stuff you take pride in. Have a go at Dughorn on that then, there's a good fella. Or are you just strawmanning again and pretending "teaching of a historical fact" = "culture"? Oh, dang it, yes you are!
deepesthole wrote: » Yes, I proved where you skipped a point to pretend I was laughing at the famine, when any honest poster can see I was saying it was hilarious to pretend only "good" things make a culture. Want to try again, without them, ya know, lies you keep getting caught out on?
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » I want to know your definition of it, not Google's.
Shurimgreat wrote: » So we shouldn't teach about the Irish famine? Not sexy enough for you either I guess?
deepesthole wrote: » Well that sounds suspiciously like a definition you just made up on the spot. Any reference for it?
Shurimgreat wrote: » And you accuse others of strawman arguments?
deepesthole wrote: » It's the plural of strawman. Do you need more help? Have Google?
deepesthole wrote: » Oh, so now you've forgotten your own argument, that Irish is part of "our" culture? But so are loads of crap things so why don't we re-enact all of those too eh? Any other lame strawmen or deflections there?
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » Please define "strawmen".
Shurimgreat wrote: » You're not the brightest are you?
deepesthole wrote: » Are you going to pretend the famine had no effect on Irish cutlure? Or Catholicism? Laughable. Not even worth discussing.
Shurimgreat wrote: » Irish equals famine. Ah right gotcha. You're not the brightest are you?
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » Collective soul was used with regards culture. Famines have nothing to do with culture, and Catholics weren't only in Ireland.
deepesthole wrote: » I'm laughing at that lame strawman. Has all that Irish pushed the English out of your head? Just answer the question: should we have more famine and Catholic church enforced misery here as it's part of our "collective soul"?
Dughorm wrote: » Wow, by trying to come up with extreme examples and call them "culture" you damage your own credibility here imho. Culture is often linked to the answer to the question "What do we take pride in?"
Shurimgreat wrote: » Its hard to take anything he says seriously at this stage. He certainly seems to have a pathological hatred of Irish. I can only put it down to having a bad teacher as often happens. Clearly he doesn't think Irish is "sexy" enough for him. I have two words to say to that: "Sharon ni Bheolain".
Shep_Dog wrote: » He may also have come from Cumbria. No doubt, claiming he was Welsh avoids the embarrassment of admiiting he was an Englishman. Odd, that we celebrate the beginning of the end of aboriginal Irish culture. You, know the culture of our ancestors, the one where Irish originated?
Caoimhgh1n wrote: » So you're laughing at the 2 million people who died during An Gorta Mór?
