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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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whelan2

ai man said i was the only call he had today :cool:

frazzledhome

whelan2 wrote: »

ai man said i was the only call he had today :cool:

About 2-3 weeks too early for winter ai. Too many winter farmers calving too many cows too early and thus diluting their bonus'.

I wonder are they copping on or just not serving as a response to poor winter bonus.

Milked out

frazzledhome wrote: »

About 2-3 weeks too early for winter ai. Too many winter farmers calving too many cows too early and thus diluting their bonus'.

I wonder are they copping on or just not serving as a response to poor winter bonus.

Numbers.calving in autumn back down this side going off talking to vets and haulier. Haulier called for calves here Mon would normally have a good few fr most weeks this time of year but last two/three years numbers dropping, all he had this week was 5 hex amd my own fr bulls explains why calves are going ok in mart too with numbers possibly being that bit scarcer

whelan2

frazzledhome wrote: »

About 2-3 weeks too early for winter ai. Too many winter farmers calving too many cows too early and thus diluting their bonus'.

I wonder are they copping on or just not serving as a response to poor winter bonus.

nope , most of the lads have moved from winter milk, no money in it apparently

Mehaffey1

C0N0R wrote: »

Why doing it twice? We used to only do it in the morning. Lic aye?

Lic testing farm for Kiwi-Cross semen so they insist on am/pm testing.

In all fairness was the quickest and cleanest herd tests we've done so far, stressed out over nothing.

Bulls arrived this morning, going in the herds on Saturday.

frazzledhome

whelan2 wrote: »

nope , most of the lads have moved from winter milk, no money in it apparently

Even with liquid contracts?

frazzledhome

Mehaffey1 wrote: »

Lic testing farm for Kiwi-Cross semen so they insist on am/pm testing.

In all fairness was the quickest and cleanest herd tests we've done so far, stressed out over nothing.

Bulls arrived this morning, going in the herds on Saturday.

What kinda bull power do ye go with? How many wks ai done?

whelan2

frazzledhome wrote: »

Even with liquid contracts?

Ai man said he rang a couple of the lads that would normally be serving at this time of year and they said they weren't bothering! didnt ask him any more. My bulls going into cows next week .

Mehaffey1

frazzledhome wrote: »

What kinda bull power do ye go with? How many wks ai done?

6 weeks AI, will be last day tomorrow. Bulls out for 4 weeks and have 5 Hereford crosses and 10 Kiwi-Crosses in total. Looked like fine animals following down the race anyway. Time will tell though.

frazzledhome

Mehaffey1 wrote: »

6 weeks AI, will be last day tomorrow. Bulls out for 4 weeks and have 5 Hereford crosses and 10 Kiwi-Crosses in total. Looked like fine animals following down the race anyway. Time will tell though.

How many cows per bull?

Timmaay

Sam Kade wrote: »

What dry cow tubes do ye use? I priced cepravin but they are a crazy price €1.96/tube. What's the best value for 60 days dry?

95cent for normal boviclox tubes. Think the withdrawal only 45days though.

Timmaay

whelan2 wrote: »

Ai man said he rang a couple of the lads that would normally be serving at this time of year and they said they weren't bothering! didnt ask him any more. My bulls going into cows next week .

Only serving 2 young cows here for next autumn. All other empties getting shown the door. All this year's autumn calvers getting pushed around until may. Late spring calvers should just about fill my January liquid quota. The aim is not to go one litre over it tho, as I have zero bonus on the Jan or Feb surplus milk.

Mehaffey1

48 cows to each bull, 15 over 730. Running in two teams so we can swap them every 5-7 days hoping to keep lameness to the bare minimum. So in the herds it'd be around 1 bull to 30 cycling cows possibly. Hard to say but would expect about 210 to be cycling still maybe.

mf240

Anyonw else get the form for the latest glanbia fixed price scheme.

The nuts they have for the fixed feed element dont seem too cheap.

Anyone using the 19 listed and if so do you have the full ingredient list . They only give the first 3 on the brochure.

freedominacup

mf240 wrote: »

Anyonw else get the form for the latest glanbia fixed price scheme.

The nuts they have for the fixed feed element dont seem too cheap.

Anyone using the 19 listed and if so do you have the full ingredient list . They only give the first 3 on the brochure.

Looking at it for the price they're charging I think those are the three ingredients.

mf240

freedominacup wrote: »

Looking at it for the price they're charging I think those are the three ingredients.

Bannanas isint it?

farmersfriend

Sam Kade wrote: »

What dry cow tubes do ye use? I priced cepravin but they are a crazy price €1.96/tube. What's the best value for 60 days dry?

Cepravin 7euro a cow,

freedominacup

Last pre Christmas calf just dropped. BB something. Everyone ok so left them to it. I was certain cow was in calf to ho but then again I had her due three weeks ago. Disappointing in a way as she's for the ramp asap. Only held her hoping to get a heifer calf as she's one of the last of her line from the old herd.

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

Anyonw else get the form for the latest glanbia fixed price scheme.

The nuts they have for the fixed feed element dont seem too cheap.

Anyone using the 19 listed and if so do you have the full ingredient list . They only give the first 3 on the brochure.

Didnt get the list, we are buying from them through group, currently on 18% cows are milking well at the minute, milk didnt drop or anything when I changed from previous supplier. Good ingredients in the 18% we are on anyway.

Greengrass1

mf240 wrote: »

Anyonw else get the form for the latest glanbia fixed price scheme.

The nuts they have for the fixed feed element dont seem too cheap.

Anyone using the 19 listed and if so do you have the full ingredient list . They only give the first 3 on the brochure.

Yep using there 19% atm.
I'll get the docket in the morning, only in the door;)

visatorro

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Yep using there 19% atm.
I'll get the docket in the morning, only in the door;)

couple of years ago id still be up at 5am and I wouldn't think twice about it. didn't think id feel this old this quick!!

stanflt

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Yep using there 19% atm.
I'll get the docket in the morning, only in the door;)

Using 16% nut mixed with hulls leaving it around 14% p

Why are lads feeding such hi p

whelan2

stanflt wrote: »

Using 16% nut mixed with hulls leaving it around 14% p

Why are lads feeding such hi p

A few of the lads in our group buying maize balancer, costing 70 euro more / tonne than 18% nut :eek: is there a need for it?

stanflt

whelan2 wrote: »

A few of the lads in our group buying maize balancer, costing 70 euro more / tonne than 18% nut :eek: is there a need for it?

A half a kg of soya would be cheaper and more bang for your buck than 1kg of balanver

Dawggone

stanflt wrote: »

Using 16% nut mixed with hulls leaving it around 14% p

Why are lads feeding such hi p

Are cows getting grass Stan?

When grazing I try to keep it around 14%.
When inside around 16%.

darragh_haven

You have some operation in here Dawggone. Didn't see any parlour but plenty of ladies around

Dawggone

darragh_haven wrote: »

You have some operation in here Dawggone. Didn't see any parlour but plenty of ladies around

Are you in my neck of the woods Darragh?

jaymla627

mf240 wrote: »

Anyonw else get the form for the latest glanbia fixed price scheme.

The nuts they have for the fixed feed element dont seem too cheap.

Anyone using the 19 listed and if so do you have the full ingredient list . They only give the first 3 on the brochure.

Looking at the scheme I reckon to get any litres at all from it, you need to take up the feed option aswell.
They must have a nice bit of milk available because with them linking it as 1.5 ton of feed for 5000 litres of fixed milk they should at least be thinking of allocating 25,000 plus litres a supplier, would be madness on their part if they went giving 5,000-10,000 litres a supplier and then having to put a lorry on the road blowing in 1.5-2 ton loads of nuts would cost them a fortune in haulage

Greengrass1

stanflt wrote: »

Using 16% nut mixed with hulls leaving it around 14% p

Why are lads feeding such hi p

Silage we have is only 14.
I'd have Prefered leave them at 16 but dad wanted to try this. Tbf there milking well and holding condition well too. 1 or 2 a day bulling aswell

Greengrass1

visatorro wrote: »

couple of years ago id still be up at 5am and I wouldn't think twice about it. didn't think id feel this old this quick!!

We might have been at different things till 5 am?

..............I was off chasing skirt