hinault wrote: » Your post count suggests otherwise.
SW wrote: » So a person can only contribute to a thread if they're 'bothered' by the topic? They can't be motivated by interest in the topic or a desire to find out the truth behind conflicting reports?
Robert, No figures available Regards Jim Molloy Sergeant Garda Press & Public Relations Office
hinault wrote: » I didn't say that. You're exercised by the fact that 20,000 folk attended the rally. I'm just curious as to why this you're exercised by that number attending.
amdublin wrote: » It would be nice to have that number independently reported e.g. by the guards who I assume would need to know for crowd control reasons. But in any case I could care less how many go to a march or not it still doesn't change that I want the choice to do what I want with body and my baby.
hinault wrote: » You can do what you want with your body and your baby regardless.The fact of the matter you'll be held accountable for that at some point in the future too. The issue upon which the pro life movement was marching is much bigger than your individual choice I salute all those who attend the Pro Life demo.
robp wrote: » No. I am stating that there was no official Garda estimate and I struggle to see one can be constantly referred to without any verification from the Gardai. Journalists don't independently verify sources.
am946745 wrote: » Don't feed the troll.
SW wrote: » MOD NOTE Don't accuse posters of being a troll on thread. Report a post if you have a problem with it. In addition, if you think a mod is trolling one of their forums, then take it to Helpdesk or a CMod. Thanks for your attention.
hinault wrote: » You can do what you want with your body and your baby regardless. The fact of the matter you'll be held accountable for that at some point in the future too.
hinault wrote: » The issue upon which the pro life movement was marching is much bigger than your individual choice
am946745 wrote: » Then be Christian for Gods sack. Is a Christianity forum and you treat posters like we are dishonest. I was there. You were not. Your bias against anything Christian is pretty obvious. (or agains me as you have closed 2 of my threads)
eviltwin wrote: » I was there too as I have been for the last three years. There was a huge crowd but not a patch on the last two years. Maybe the public is getting sick of YD, Life Institute etc and their lack of compassion.
am946745 wrote: » We had great support from the public. I was glad to see that there were many non catholic families who turned out to support the rally.
lazygal wrote: » How did you know they were non catholic families?
am946745 wrote: » Because they said so. Actually my neighbour who is a protestant pastor was the one who drove us to Dublin which is family and 2 dozen from his church. There were also many from the norths churchs.
lazygal wrote: » And was anyone calling for the protection for the unborn to be extended to prevent the unborn being taken elsewhere to be aborted?
newmug wrote: » Yes. We regularly protest in the UK too.
lazygal wrote: » Do you protest against women leaving Ireland to travel to kill the unborn? At airports and ferry ports? Should the right to travel and information be repealed? What about Irish maternity hospitals that did 26 abortions last year, do you regularly protest outside them? Or clinics that freeze embryos, denying them the right to life, do you protest there?
As experienced practitioners and researchers in obstetrics and gynaecology, we affirm that direct abortion – the purposeful destruction of the unborn child – is not medically necessary to save the life of a woman. We uphold that there is a fundamental difference between abortion, and necessary medical treatments that are carried out to save the life of the mother, even if such treatment results in the loss of life of her unborn child.
am946745 wrote: » Apart from suicide, if the procedures are to save a mothers life then they were ALWAYS legal in Ireland. There is NOTHING wrong with saving a months live if it means that sometimes the baby dies.
lazygal wrote: » Why? I thought the baby's life was exactly the same as the woman's life. Seems odd that when there's a conflict one life suddenly has more rights than the other. Should the suicide clause in the constitution be repealed too, so that women who's lives are at risk in such a fashion cannot avail of abortion?
am946745 wrote: » What does our constitution say?
lazygal wrote: » It says the unborn has the right to life, but women have the right to information on how and where to take away that right and have the right to travel to violate that right. And that a threat to life from suicide is a valid reason to kill the unborn, like other risks to life where its ok to kill the unborn. Should all those rights exist? Did anyone at the rally for life protest outside Holles Street on the way to Merrion Square? Or take a detour to SIMS? Or Dublin airport where women travel to kill the unborn every day?
newmug wrote: » The hospitals that conducted abortions did so to save the mothers life in all cases except 3. Now, it was ALWAYS legal to abort a child if the mother's life was in danger, but the recent legislation now covers suicide aswell. However, what we're p1ssed off at, is that instead of terminating a pregnancy where there is a risk of suicide, they just kill the baby. There is a difference. Your mothers pregnancy with YOU was terminated. So was mine. But we are still alive. And also, these mothers who are so depressed at the thoughts of having a baby, dont get the psychiatric treatment they need. Its as if killing the child is a cure for their depression.
