Dawggone wrote: » +1. Doesn't matter if it's "kiwi" way yanks way or whatever. It's HIS way. DSW might get him to Boards so we can get another, fresh, perspective on things. Guys like that can open one's eyes.
Greengrass1 wrote: » How about this mj was told this the other day. say a farmer with 80 cows last yr and 100 this yr applies for grant. Straight away he gets slammed with a cross compliance. Even though farmer on paper might not enough storage but got through winter fine. Not enough young lads with this lads initiative. Having enough storage is only a paper exercise
Timmaay wrote: » You find a lot of them over on Twitter! Funny enough it's without the drama here on boards where we go in circles for hours ha.
mahoney_j wrote: » Obvious you've never been through x compliance .every tank measured etc .enough storage a very long way from paper work exercise
whelan2 wrote: » :eek: so i and alot of other farmers spent a serious amount of money getting everything right for nothing
whelan2 wrote: » this is the thing that annoys me county councils must vary alot around the country , surely it should be the same rules for everyone? Any way i have my work done to comply with the county council, will have it paid for next year and can then move on to my next plan
mahoney_j wrote: » Obvious you've never been through x compliance .every tank measured etc .enough storage a very long way from paper work exercise.anyone could be hit anytime with an inspection
Timmaay wrote: » Depends on the land type, and rainfall! If we were allowed to spread slurry in nov/Dec when ground conditions are often a lot better than Jan/Feb I know our slurry requirements would be a lot lower. As it stands we are barely over the line in terms of "paper" storage, straw bedding is our saving grace, however we out winter 10 to 20 cows a very sandy well sheltered field which totally takes the pressure of the underground tank, I'll happily continue this as long as I can as they preform equally well if not better there than inside.
stretch film wrote: » More kids ???
Greengrass1 wrote: » Been through quite a few of them mj. Ye have to get over it mj.
mahoney_j wrote: » Over what if u were through x compliance co co Inspections storage is one of big things checked
whelan2 wrote: » no:rolleyes: knock cubicle sheds and rebuild , have some newton rig cubicles there still, they work ok but are on their last legs
Greengrass1 wrote: » This man said it out right he loves hardship and he loves muck lol. He has a day job and gers up at 4 30 every morning. Just really loves cows. Had a 9% empty rate his first yr and is still giving out to himself over it
Dawggone wrote: » My problem with his ultra low cost system is I reckon it would be nigh on impossible to get someone to work it. The simple,replicable system is, surely, the best. Otherwise expansion is impossible...
frazzledhome wrote: » I agree pure hardship. I've done it and don't want to again. It's never longterm but you still don't know when it will end. It's just a matter of getting capital together to take the next step, the steps do however get more frequent and bigger quickly as you well know. On the issue of neighbours having storage. I never looked into someone's yard yet and felt bad that I have more storage. People just need to get on with it. Only certain types of neighbours give a damn
Dawggone wrote: » Agree, if you need to get somewhere there is always hardship. Did enough of it myself... Any chance the conversation could be steered back to costs? Can Irish farmers produce the cheapest milk in the world?
jaymla627 wrote: » Done up a budget the other day will just breakeven if milk dosent dip below 25 cent little our no drawings taken from that, the sfp will be the main source of income this year, 30 cent is really the break - even price here anything below this the cows become a expensive hobby
browned wrote: » sorry dawggone I've done the whole beet,kale,rape and deferred grazings on outfarms over 20mins drive from home and but for the driving I quite enjoyed it. 10-20mins to move a fence and days work is done. no cleaning cubicles, dusting cubicles, pushing in silage, feeding out silage etc. as for calving on kale, pick them up in a quad, give them a hose down if they need it job done. no cleaning out calving pen, rebidding etc and best of all no slurry spreading for the year. all depends on suitable land and the type of winter to answer your question on cheapest milk producers id say no, competitive producers but not the cheapest
Deepsouthwest wrote: » I'd his ears must be burning this evening! He has storage rented, so fully compliant. He knows I'm on boards, but no way I'd ask him, especially if he got "made" he'd be ridiculed from pillar to post trying to defend his system. Too many snipers on here!
Dawggone wrote: » Thoroughly agree. Competitive... Fair dues browned if you do operate an ultra low cost system. You paint a rosy picture of how easy it is. Any idea of production costs...?
trixi2011 wrote: » Way prefere wintering on crop than messing around in sheds myself but its definatly not an option were im farming these days . Just on calving on kale would you not prefere to get them off kale as they are bagging up ?
