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Won't somebody please think of the children? Adult Store opens in Drumcondra

Muahahaha

The owners of the online shop Playblue have opened a bricks and mortar shop in Drumcondra right opposite to a boys primary school. RTE News sent cameras down and there was dozens of concerned parents protesting outside, backed up by FG politicians. They're outraged that an adult shop is setting up so close to a school and want it shut down. The shop owner responds to them by saying there is nothing in his shop that cannot be found by any child on a smartphone.
Drumcondra is home to the Archbishop of Dublin and much of the senior Catholic clergy, I'm sticking the popcorn on for this one :pac:

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If there's one place I definitely don't want to think about children, it's when I'm in a sex shop

:pac:

darkpagandeath

Not a NSA agent wrote: »

Thank the gods that now the children are safe from dildos being launched at the school as the evil owner used edible underwear as a slingshot. Songs shall be sung about the brave few who stood up against such tyranny as they protected their children from such attack

Never got this idea of stuff like this and schools. Schools have houses next to them where people could actually be Fu*king. And not just buying items.

Not a NSA agent

Thank the gods that now the children are safe from dildos being launched at the school as the evil owner used edible underwear as a slingshot. Songs shall be sung about the brave few who stood up against such tyranny as they protected their children from such attack

steddyeddy

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Well some posters here seem adamant that there should have been a sex shop allowed to be opened in the area, but the people themselves who actually live in the area don't actually want it, so I'm asking why do people see this sex shop as a particular necessity in an area where the people that live there don't actually want it. The guy who was going to open the shop there saw that it was a bad idea, so why are people here still saying that the people who live there had no right to object to it opening?

I just don't see why people are making such a big deal of the fact that people who are actually living in the area didn't want a sex shop in the area. It's not like he couldn't locate his premises elsewhere.

No posters weren't the ones suggesting there should have been a sex shop in the area. A business man did for his own reasons. Posters are suggesting that there is little reason for the parents to object to it.

darkpagandeath

^ Lol... Rule Britannia... "Do you like Lezers"... comedy gold that lad.

Jake Rugby Walrus666

http://soundcloud.com/slims-random-stuff/cork-bookshop-chat

hynesie08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjzpKxw6Qxo

Mightydrumming

If the parents though it through, they wouldn't of went to the media and held protests etc... If they shut their mouths it wouldn't of got to this stage. I might start up my own shop because this guys marketing strategy is mighty!

darkpagandeath

osarusan wrote: »

Which is the whole point of the "who's so desperate they need a sex shop in the area?" line of argument.

To be fair I don't think they realise it will probably be more of a storage/delivery shop than a 100% walk in walk around shop.

osarusan

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

You have an unbalanced situation here where you're not going to see many people coming out in favour of this shop opening as they'd be viewed by some as sexual deviants.

Which is the whole point of the "who's so desperate they need a sex shop in the area?" line of argument.

darkpagandeath

osarusan wrote: »

Where did anybody say that it was a necessity to have the shop in that location?

People from the 1950s that don't know what the Internet is.

Rough Sleeper

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Well some posters here seem adamant that there should have been a sex shop allowed to be opened in the area, but the people themselves who actually live in the area don't actually want it, so I'm asking why do people see this sex shop as a particular necessity in an area where the people that live there don't actually want it. The guy who was going to open the shop there saw that it was a bad idea, so why are people here still saying that the people who live there had no right to object to it opening?

I just don't see why people are making such a big deal of the fact that people who are actually living in the area didn't want a sex shop in the area. It's not like he couldn't locate his premises elsewhere.

You have an unbalanced situation here where you're not going to see many people coming out in favour of this shop opening as they'd be viewed by some as sexual deviants. I assume this is how the protesters view the potential clientele given the fact that the goods would not be on display and children would not get past the door. The majority of my friends live in Drumcondra and they'd be happy to see it open. You're misusing the concept of demand in this case. Demand for the service would not be determined by summing the number of people who expressedly ask for it against the number of busybodies who are expressedly against it. The demand for this service would be evaluated by its success or lack thereof.

Nobody said that the protesters don't have the right to object, they think that they have no justifiable reason for doing so and thus their objections amount to bullying. To me this looks like people protesting the opening of an Indian takeaway because they think that people from South Asia stink of curry. The Westboro Baptist Church have every right to to picket the funerals of dead soldiers in their home country, doesn't mean that their motivations aren't ****e.

seamus

Considering there's a tonne of strip clubs in Dublin and one well known on one of the capital's busiest streets, I'm going to say that the downfall of Stringfellows was about more than a few biddies kneeling outside it.

The location not least wouldn't have inspired the kind of patronage who could afford to splash out there.

aloyisious

It seem's the moral majority who called for the closure of Stringfellows haven't gone away, you know.

darkpagandeath

Daith wrote: »

Or they'll sell 18+ video games to the innocent Drumcondra angels.

And everyone know's you can't find porn on the internet. Would they let the Internet into Dumcondra anyway as it peddles filth ?

Greenmachine

Never under estimate the strength of pester power. A certain well known strip club was forced to close on Parnell street. I won't even go into the objections that came up in that situation.

Daith

gramar wrote: »

They did but it's no longer His Master's Voice. It's now Her Moist Vagina and they'll be giving Ann Summers and Playblue a run for the their money.

Or they'll sell 18+ video games to the innocent Drumcondra angels.

gramar

Daith wrote: »

Didn't HMV have a massive relaunch on Grafton St last week?

They did but it's no longer His Master's Voice. It's now Her Moist Vagina and they'll be giving Ann Summers and Playblue a run for their money.

Daith

darkpagandeath wrote: »

And Dundrum

Yeah but who in the Dundrum community demanded a shop peddling filth like "The Best of Snow Patrol"? I demand answers.

darkpagandeath

Daith wrote: »

Didn't HMV have a massive relaunch on Grafton St last week?

And Dundrum

darkpagandeath

eviltwin wrote: »

How many people do you think are protesting? Since when do a few parents represent the views of the entire community?

Nail head, Until the present a 10k signed objection for example I would go with the local clergy/few parents.

Daith

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Could you have picked a worse example of a dying market? So dead in fact that HMV themselves had to pull out of Ireland because people don't really buy music on CD any more, they buy it on, funnily enough, iTunes, digital downloads.

Didn't HMV have a massive relaunch on Grafton St last week?

syklops

I work just next to Camden Street which has a sex shop, which is right around the corner from DIT. On my way to work I see all kinds of shenanigans, but its never, from what I can see, as a result of the sex shop.

eviltwin

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Well some posters here seem adamant that there should have been a sex shop allowed to be opened in the area, but the people themselves who actually live in the area don't actually want it, so I'm asking why do people see this sex shop as a particular necessity in an area where the people that live there don't actually want it. The guy who was going to open the shop there saw that it was a bad idea, so why are people here still saying that the people who live there had no right to object to it opening?

I just don't see why people are making such a big deal of the fact that people who are actually living in the area didn't want a sex shop in the area. It's not like he couldn't locate his premises elsewhere.

How many people do you think are protesting? Since when do a few parents represent the views of the entire community?

One eyed Jack

ScumLord wrote: »

Desperation has nothing to do with setting up a shop. Who's desperate enough for CDs that a HMV should open on the same street? Nobody, so HMV shouldn't be allowed to open a shop. It's nonsensical. Apple wouldn't ask "who's desperate for an iPhone, we haven't invented it yet so nobody, lets not release it".

Could you have picked a worse example of a dying market? So dead in fact that HMV themselves had to pull out of Ireland because people don't really buy music on CD any more, they buy it on, funnily enough, iTunes, digital downloads.

To say people are desperate for a sex shop to open implies they're some sort of sexual deviant that can't wait the 3 days it would take to order a dildo over the internet because their last one is worn out.

Well if that's the way you want to read it, fair enough. I hadn't implied any such thing by suggesting that there's obviously no demand in the area for a sex shop. Quite the opposite in fact as it turns out.

This is basically an online shop, it sounded like at best they were hoping to use the shop as a collection point for people in Dublin. If the concerned parents hadn't made such an issue out of it the shop would have gone unnoticed by all but the people who where looking for a sex shop. Now the shop has national press (maybe even some international "look at the prudish paddies" press), all the concern parents have done is promote the shop.

Sure, I get what it was meant to be, and it turns out that people, not just parents but also local retailers and residents in the area, didn't want it in their community. I doubt the people in the community care what the national or international media thinks of them tbh. It's not like Drumcondra is the be-all and end-all of Irish society, and there are plenty of sex shops in Dublin if supply is an issue for some people.

Daith

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I don't think the law works that way, You cannot stop a shop from opening. You could object to planning permission if one was been built. But I don't think reason for objection to new building "sex shop" would get anywhere. Are people being forced to go into the shop ?

Quite frankly I'd say most of the parents don't even bother checking what their angels look at on the Internet.

darkpagandeath

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Well some posters here seem adamant that there should have been a sex shop allowed to be opened in the area, but the people themselves who actually live in the area don't actually want it, so I'm asking why do people see this sex shop as a particular necessity in an area where the people that live there don't actually want it. The guy who was going to open the shop there saw that it was a bad idea, so why are people here still saying that the people who live there had no right to object to it opening?

I just don't see why people are making such a big deal of the fact that people who are actually living in the area didn't want a sex shop in the area. It's not like he couldn't locate his premises elsewhere.

I don't think the law works that way, You cannot stop a shop from opening. You could object to planning permission if one was been built. But I don't think reason for objection to new building "sex shop" would get anywhere. Are people being forced to go into the shop ? I would assume it would be a fairly standard shop plain fronting, do they beam out sex rays and make people sex mad ?

syklops

steddyeddy wrote: »

I don't get the desperate line of thinking. There's an off-licence down the road from a school here. Business don't close because people aren't "desperate" to use it. Anyway we're not the market so how would we know who uses it?

Assuming its not a niche fetish shop, Id say there are plenty of users of this market on boards. I'd say most women have some form of implement they use and many men do as well. As its been said before, its not 1970 anymore.

Daith

One eyed Jack wrote: »

That paper shop in Dublin for example, or the other printing business in Drogheda that were subjected to mob mentality tactics that almost drove them out of business.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I just don't see why people are making such a big deal of the fact that people who are actually living in the area didn't want a sex shop in the area. It's not like he couldn't locate his premises elsewhere.

Would you accuse the people who objected of "mob mentality" driving a company out of business before they even start?

One eyed Jack

osarusan wrote: »

Who said anything about anybody 'needing' a sex shop in the area?

Why are you banging that drum?

Well some posters here seem adamant that there should have been a sex shop allowed to be opened in the area, but the people themselves who actually live in the area don't actually want it, so I'm asking why do people see this sex shop as a particular necessity in an area where the people that live there don't actually want it. The guy who was going to open the shop there saw that it was a bad idea, so why are people here still saying that the people who live there had no right to object to it opening?

I just don't see why people are making such a big deal of the fact that people who are actually living in the area didn't want a sex shop in the area. It's not like he couldn't locate his premises elsewhere.