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There are up to 7 dairy threads going at one time. What's your opinion on having a "one stop" dairy thread. I, in no way want to exclude anyone else esoecially Bob Charles we need him to keep us real and you never know we may even convert him! Mods you may have another opinion.

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Cow Porter

Greengrass1 wrote: »

She's going to be bottom fill so should be non return valve on it. They put a 2 way valve on it incase milk lorry cones during milking he can fill away without disrupting milking

Well wear as they say around here

Can you take a pic of the two way valve your on about.....

Greengrass1

trixi2011 wrote: »

Parlour next and you will be away with it, you thinking of a going for any of these new 60% grants

Hope fully have grant approval for tank and parlour but we won't get parlour in by august. Takes 6 wks from ordering before parlour is in the yard

Greengrass1

Cow Porter wrote: »

Well wear as they say around here

Can you take a pic of the two way valve your on about.....

The join coming straight out is where milk line will be attached the piece where lever valve is coming out on right is where lorry driver can hook up if I'm milking. Tbh I think it's a bit gimmicky looking at it already I have to take it off to wash rank and it has to be washed separate

whelan2

This is the valve we have works grand even when milk man comes during milking

whelan2

Valve for washing

Greengrass1

whelan2 wrote: »

This is the valve we have works grand even when milk man comes during milking

Yeah mines the same only for the bit in the middle. Tbh I kniw myself we won't use it after a while frig that having to undo connections and all that.

whelan2

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Yeah mines the same only for the bit in the middle. Tbh I kniw myself we won't use it after a while frig that having to undo connections and all that.

Would crap build up in it if not being used?

Greengrass1

whelan2 wrote: »

Would crap build up in it if not being used?

A rinse of water would prob do most if washing on it I suppose.
Uncle will be down tomorrow I'll see what he thinks. he'll either think it's a great job or a fcuk of a yoke

Timmaay

I cheaped out and just went with top fill. With bottom fill how do you get the last of milk into the tank? I've above 3 litres left over after manually draining the milk pump and hitting the air purge.

whelan2

I have the air line connected to it and it blows the last of the milk/ water out. Also blew every hose clip in the place until I got used to it. Air is there for feeders any way

Sacrolyte

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Are power washers not allowed in dairy?

Their fine but 2 of my kranzels disappeared. Iykwim.

Greengrass1

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Their fine but 2 of my kranzels disappeared. Iykwim.

Ah I'd go flipping mad if that happened. 800 e plus for that model I think. Good dog in yard who tares the place down if stranger comes around

Sacrolyte

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ah I'd go flipping mad if that happened. 800 e plus for that model I think. Good dog in yard who tares the place down if stranger comes around

Nice one. Best of luck with it. It looks a dinger.

howdee

Folks I'm looking for a bit of advice, I'm having too many cows repeating this spring, currently I'm at a repeat rate of 52% into my 5th week of breeding. Never had any problems before, herd is a generally young pure friesian herd, 6 week calving rate is usually 80-90%. Replacement rate is generally 5ish%.
Herd is closed, non vaccinating with the same ai tech for years. Getting 2kg of a high energy but with loads of grass. Heifers are holding well. Thinking of getting blood tests done on Monday to see is there any underlying problems as I don't think the cold weather should be causing such a big repeat rate.

Greengrass1

howdee wrote: »

Folks I'm looking for a bit of advice, I'm having too many cows repeating this spring, currently I'm at a repeat rate of 52% into my 5th week of breeding. Never had any problems before, herd is a generally young pure friesian herd, 6 week calving rate is usually 80-90%. Replacement rate is generally 5ish%.
Herd is closed, non vaccinating with the same ai tech for years. Getting 2kg of a high energy but with loads of grass. Heifers are holding well. Thinking of getting blood tests done on Monday to see is there any underlying problems as I don't think the cold weather should be causing such a big repeat rate.

That's a sickener Howdee. I think your on the ball there with bloods they might pick up something.
Could be a virus like Ibr after getting hold on your herd. Doesn't seem like a min prob if you were consistently getting great figures like that yr in yr out.
Do you do any milk disease screening?
Get vet to do some nasal swabs for Ibr.
Any runny noses?

frazzledhome

howdee wrote: »

Folks I'm looking for a bit of advice, I'm having too many cows repeating this spring, currently I'm at a repeat rate of 52% into my 5th week of breeding. Never had any problems before, herd is a generally young pure friesian herd, 6 week calving rate is usually 80-90%. Replacement rate is generally 5ish%.
Herd is closed, non vaccinating with the same ai tech for years. Getting 2kg of a high energy but with loads of grass. Heifers are holding well. Thinking of getting blood tests done on Monday to see is there any underlying problems as I don't think the cold weather should be causing such a big repeat rate.

When blooding do nasal and faecal samples on 10% of each lactation. This will give very good picture. We do here as routine twice a year.

Are you disease screening your milk. Sorry can't give any solution bar getting to the root of the problem

howdee

Greengrass1 wrote: »

That's a sickener Howdee. I think your on the ball there with bloods they might pick up something.
Could be a virus like Ibr after getting hold on your herd. Doesn't seem like a min prob if you were consistently getting great figures like that yr in yr out.
Do you do any milk disease screening?
Get vet to do some nasal swabs for Ibr.
Any runny noses?

Was disease screening milk up to last year but I stopped as the results were too inaccurate with info bouncing up and down so I scrapped it. ( May not have been the best decision ) funny enough I did notice a few runny noses earlier in the year, before calving but I thought nothing more of it other then a chill.

frazzledhome

howdee wrote: »

Was disease screening milk up to last year but I stopped as the results were too inaccurate with info bouncing up and down so I scrapped it. ( May not have been the best decision ) funny enough I did notice a few runny noses earlier in the year, before calving but I thought nothing more of it other then a chill.

I'd put €100 on IBR:( but can't be sure till you test
Sounds familiar. Are they coughing?

howdee

frazzledhome wrote: »

I'd put €100 on IBR:( but can't be sure till you test
Sounds familiar. Are they coughing?

The odd cough. Nothing out of the ordinary, haven't been wormed.
I was under the impression that ibr only came out of the woodwork in time of stress? Would breeding season be enough to bring this on.

mf240

Starting vacinating for ibr around this time last year and it made a massive improvememt.

We had a few with runny noses getting chills ect. Maybe a pneumomia or two after a hard calving / or some other stress.

Vet was saying it could be floating through a herd without being that noticable. hoping breeding will go better now.

"Howdee" its early in the year so plenty of time to get sorted. Would be ten times worse cropping up in july/aug.

Cow Porter

If it's a bad ibr outbreak then there may also be sudden milk drop, but if it's just mild enough for them to run a temperature then a cow won't hold,

the difference from vaccination can be just a boost from the vaccine and nothing to do with ibr but who cares, everyone notices the improvement.

What way was the weather when these cows were bulled?

howdee

Cow Porter wrote: »

If it's a bad ibr outbreak then there may also be sudden milk drop, but if it's just mild enough for them to run a temperature then a cow won't hold,

the difference from vaccination can be just a boost from the vaccine and nothing to do with ibr but who cares, everyone notices the improvement.

What way was the weather when these cows were bulled?

Weather was cold, windy and wet. Was expecting it to affect conception but I doubt it hasn't had that much of a effect. Bull is going in tomorrow. I hate nothing more then April calvers.

keep going

While 50 % conception is not good I thought the average is around 60% or so .its nearly worse if you get alot of repeats later in the year and it seems to happen that e ery so often you get some sort of a herd health or bull health problem that throws you calving pattern just when you have it going grand

Greengrass1

keep going wrote: »

While 50 % conception is not good I thought the average is around 60% or so .its nearly worse if you get alot of repeats later in the year and it seems to happen that e ery so often you get some sort of a herd health or bull health problem that throws you calving pattern just when you have it going grand

I agree but going from 90% caled in 6 wks definitely is a kick in the stones and is a bad thing to happen.
Op we started vaccinating for Ibr about 3 yr ago now ours wasn't effecting the cows that you would notice it but all stock had runny noses and coughs aswell as very poor conception rates nothing like that any more. As a vet explained it to me before its like if you have a cold all the time. You can't be very productive with it.
nasal swabs will show up what ever it is. A good vet will help you out alot too

keep going

Before nitrates came in what were the yearly recommend ed amounts of p and k to be spread for dairying grass

Deepsouthwest

When can we cut out cal mag? grass flying ahead of me now, have only been feeding 1kg/day all along, but might cut it out now.

Dawggone

Two cows aborted since last night. Both seven months in calf. Calves deformed.
SBV. Here we go again.

kevthegaff

Dawggone wrote: »

Two cows aborted since last night. Both seven months in calf. Calves deformed.
SBV. Here we go again.

is the virus not dying out? Miserable

Dawggone

kevthegaff wrote: »

is the virus not dying out? Miserable

I thought it had run its course through the herd. Obviously not.

blackdog1

howdee wrote: »

Folks I'm looking for a bit of advice, I'm having too many cows repeating this spring, currently I'm at a repeat rate of 52% into my 5th week of breeding. Never had any problems before, herd is a generally young pure friesian herd, 6 week calving rate is usually 80-90%. Replacement rate is generally 5ish%.
Herd is closed, non vaccinating with the same ai tech for years. Getting 2kg of a high energy but with loads of grass. Heifers are holding well. Thinking of getting blood tests done on Monday to see is there any underlying problems as I don't think the cold weather should be causing such a big repeat rate.

If it's not disease it could be that your nitrogen levels are too high and you might need to put a nitrogen blocker in the feed. Common at this time with short rotation and heavy fertilizer spreading.