KomradeBishop wrote: » It's really odd how this seems to be denied, or how posters sometimes engage in whataboutery to try and discredit the idea - it shouldn't really be all that controversial, but does in the end seem to be.
ceadaoin. wrote: » The only issue I see is that they have let their lack of success with women make them bitter. That is entirely their own problem and if they want to have any happiness in the future they should work on letting it go. Plenty of average or even below average men manage to get women without it taking years of effort as some posters have claimed on here. The difference is those men probably don't project bitterness and dislike in all their interactions with the opposite sex.
dark crystal wrote: » It's been explained countless times now why sexuality has been defined as such. I was quoting you, as you were addressing the sex drive argument in your post. They what now??
Ogniochialli wrote: » For sake of argument Let's assume these guys are bitter, how do you know it wasn't the lack of success with women that caused their bitterness. On what basis are you coming to these sweeping conclusions? When you jump to conclusions like that you completely overlook the issue being put forward.
dark crystal wrote: » They what now??
Mister Vain wrote: » Speak for yourself. I love watching giraffes getting it on, with their big long necks.
Ogniochialli wrote: » Indeed women in my opinion have more depth to their sensuality, that's why they get turned on by watching animals have sex whereas men don't.
One eyed Jack wrote: » You only have to look at the "fed up with being single" thread in this forum to see who posts more, men or women, and you get a general sense of the attitudes too. I'll leave it up to yourself to draw your own conclusions. (Hey if other posters can use PI and r/deadbedrooms as examples of "evidence") :rolleyes:
dark crystal wrote: » Sexuality is a huge subject. It is not confined to how often one needs to get their end away. To reduce the definition of sexuality to such a narrow confine is delusional in itself.
Ogniochialli wrote: » I never reduced security to merely how often one "gets their end away". I don'the know why you're quoting me.
Indeed women in my opinion have more depth to their sensuality, that's why they get turned on by watching animals have sex whereas men don't.
Saralee4 wrote: » Ah come now your having a joke. Read the post where he explains his reasons for saying women in general are deluded and then make your own assumption of my response based on that.
Ogniochialli wrote: » You keep doing this. No one said anyone is deluded if they think both parties have many obstacles when it comes to getting with the opposite sex. That's a complete non sequitur.
Ogniochialli wrote: » I 'd be one of the first to recognise how strong a woman's sex drive can be having read Nancy Fridays books, but it is simply not the case that women's sex drives are as consistently strong as mens on average.to think otherwise is indeed deluded.
nokia69 wrote: » but when you continue to deny things that are backed by a mountain of empirical evidence then you come across as deluded
One eyed Jack wrote: » Code Red? Code Purple? Is this some sort of Return of Kings nonsense in response to that whole women posting the colour of their underwear on social media? I never got the memo, that makes me feel code blue Code Brown and we're all fcuked! :pac:
the evasion_kid wrote: » Charge of Rationalization (Code Purple) - The Sour Grapes Charge Discussion: The target is accused of explaining away his own failures and/or dissatisfaction by blaming women for his problems. Example: "You are just bitter because you can't get laid." Response: In this case, it must be asked if it really matters how one arrives at the truth. In other words, one may submit to the accuser, "What if the grapes really are sour?" At any rate, the Code Purple shaming tactic is an example of what is called "circumstantial ad hominem." :pac:
the evasion_kid wrote: » Charge of Irascibility (Code Red)
the evasion_kid wrote: » Charge of Rationalization (Code Purple) - The Sour Grapes Charge
Saralee4 wrote: » There are many obstacles for both sexes when it comes to getting it with the opposite sex. That opinion does not make me or women in general deluded.
Saralee4 wrote: » The target hit out with a "women are deluded with their sexuality" statement. In that case a code red is the standard response And it wasn't an attack on him. I am trying to explain to him how he's coming across and those are the reasons women are going to react negatively towards him.
lavdad wrote: » They really want to portray that men and women have it equally easy when it comes to getting sex with the opposite sex. Are you denying that this position is delusional?
Ogniochialli wrote: » Yes I agree, but why the need to make personal jibes, much like what you'ver said above, it only serves to make people more resistant to listen to your side of the argument.
lavdad wrote: » Women tend to dish out Ad homs and straw mans to the inverse extent they dish out replies on dating sites to messages under 4 paragraphs and guys <6'
Saralee4 wrote: » What proof do you have that women in general are deluded other than your own deluded opinion?
Saralee4 wrote: » Even if it was lack of success, it does not give reason to be bitter. Bitterness will just affect the man himself and if that was the case he needs to find a better way to deal with rejection. He himself and for himself has nothing to gain from becoming bitter and will just push people away which opens him up for more rejection.
lavdad wrote: » I said "Women are in general utterly deluded when it comes to sexuality.", you should be a straw man manufacturer
ceadaoin. wrote: » All the guys on these threads who complain about their bad luck with dating and sex mostly seem to display the same bitterness and general bad attitude towards women. It's not rocket science to see why women don't want to sleep with them.
