random1337 wrote: » Yes but I mean do boardsie posters represent the views of the general Irish youth? I'm asking do right wingers either not post on this board or just don't exist today in Ireland?
eviltwin wrote: » White guilt?
user53 wrote: » I'd say boards posters represent the views of the general Irish youth but not Irish society. So i think right wing people and people with opposite views of the points in the first post would generally be older people rather than younger people.
random1337 wrote: » Not necessarily, it could be interpreted in other ways too. A friend of mine posted a status on Facebook last year after watching 12 years a Slave that he was "ashamed to be white". He's Irish and his ancestors obviously weren't involved in the slave trade of the Americas. That means these Hollywood blockbuster films are instilling a collective white guilt complex into White people around the world, when every race has engaged in slavery and had equally barbaric pasts.
random1337 wrote: » Maybe turn off the TV and pick up a history book and you might find that slavery existed outside of the American Slave Trade. ALL empires and civilizations engaged in Slavery at MASS scales. Murder & Rape are exclusive to European Nations?? Again nearly every country in existence today would have wiped out tribes in that area before them. Red Indians and Aussie Aboriginals weren't the only groups to lose their land. All races/empires engaged in Colonization... Incest??
LeinsterDub wrote: » Not sure you understood my post. My post was about Christian values as written in the Bible ?
random1337 wrote: » Also traditonal Christian values = family unit, have kids, against abortion, sexual abstinence outside marriage Trying to imply "Traditional Christian values" stated in my OP was aimed at glorifying the violence in the old testament is absurd.
LeinsterDub wrote: » So when you mean Christian values you mean the ones that you pick and choose so suit yourself? How about do on to others as you'd have done on to you and love thy neighbours with regards gay marriage
random1337 wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBqWMblu_Ss
random1337 wrote: » Youtube video
random1337 wrote: Also traditional Christian values = family unit, have kids, against abortion,sexual abstinence outside marriage
random1337 wrote: » From reading this forum I can see common themes re-occurring: -Pro-Multiculturalism -Anti traditional Christian values -Against pride in their heritage/culture/traditions (white guilt) -Believe Gender is a social construct -Pro Gay-marriage Btw, I am not stating whether I am for or against any of the above, I am just stating the general consensus this forum follows and wondering why. Also do you think this forum typically represents the mindset of modern Irish youth?
Foxhound38 wrote: » What have the yanks got to do with this forum?
newmug wrote: » But the questions are, who is doing this, where are they getting the money, and why are they doing it? I consider myself an average Irish fella, but every time I log on here, I am offended left-right-and centre by the plastic-paddy sh1te that's tolerated on here, but dare you express an "unpopular" opinion (unpopular by boards's standards) and you'll be red-carded into oblivion.
newmug wrote: » 100% with you OP. And no, Boards doesn't represent typical Irish youth. However, unfortunately, some gullible people often change their views to suit the masses. So, if someone wants to push an agenda, they try to influence different media (such as RTE, newspapers, Boards etc.) to give the impression that their views are dominant, and they sway the gullible people to their way of thinking. But the questions are, who is doing this, where are they getting the money, and why are they doing it? I consider myself an average Irish fella, but every time I log on here, I am offended left-right-and centre by the plastic-paddy sh1te that's tolerated on here, but dare you express an "unpopular" opinion (unpopular by boards's standards) and you'll be red-carded into oblivion. Boards is Ivana Bacik's wet dream. But not everybody subscribes to that kind of poisonous tripe. The text below is a post I wrote in another thread, I think it sums up Boards well:http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=91808077Shinners - rarely get above 15% at electoral events. On boards you'd think they were about to sieze power in a coup!Athiests - 84% of Irish people identify as Catholic. This is a FACT, bourne out in the last census. On Boards, you'd think 84% of people were atheist.LGBT - Homosexuality, tattoos, piercings etc. seem to be commonplace on Boards. In real life, these things are still well-and-truly in the "weirdo" category. (Maybe not so much the tattoos nowadays, they're seen as more "waster" than "weird" [not MY view, just my observation])Computer Nerds - Nerds in general, are a rarity in society. They are obviously going to congregate more on the internet than they would in real life, so maybe that is the truest bit of representation on Boards. Still though, they are on the margain of the margains of society offline. I'll add another stat to that. Views on abortion. On Boards (and in the Irish media in general), you'd think people were about to bring down the government with the overwhelming demand to legalise abortion up to full term. The reality is, when the govt. were enacting the recent legislation, 5,000 pre-choicers turned out to protest that it didn't go far enough. 80,000 pro-lifers turned out to protest that it went too far. The govt didn't hold a referendum because they knew the bill to legalise abortion would be spectacularly annihilated. Typical Boardsie v a normal person. Skip to 1:50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY54fnWQ-48
newmug wrote: Shinners - rarely get above 15% at electoral events. On boards you'd think they were about to sieze power in a coup!Athiests - 84% of Irish people identify as Catholic. This is a FACT, bourne out in the last census. On Boards, you'd think 84% of people were atheist.LGBT - Homosexuality, tattoos, piercings etc. seem to be commonplace on Boards. In real life, these things are still well-and-truly in the "weirdo" category. (Maybe not so much the tattoos nowadays, they're seen as more "waster" than "weird" [not MY view, just my observation])Computer Nerds - Nerds in general, are a rarity in society. They are obviously going to congregate more on the internet than they would in real life, so maybe that is the truest bit of representation on Boards. Still though, they are on the margain of the margains of society offline.
random1337 wrote: » Also traditional Christian values = family unit, have kids, against abortion, sexual abstinence outside marriage Trying to imply "Traditional Christian values" stated in my OP was aimed at glorifying the violence in the old testament is absurd.
random1337 wrote: » Let's not get into the Gay Marriage debate, we all know what it says in the Bible.
random1337 wrote: » I'm not picking and choosing, Christian values are a set of rules to live by usually set in the 10 commandments. You are taking the violence of the old testament out of context and you know it. Google what traditional Christian values are and you will see. Let's not get into the Gay Marriage debate, we all know what it says in the Bible.
Brutal Deluxe wrote: » Trust me, plenty of right wingers exist on here. Plenty of them exist in Irish society; Boards isn't that big to give a general idea of Ireland as a whole. But I would argue that more extreme views that are right sided, would be harder to express within the rules (or lack of effort put forward to stay within the rules). That and the more liberal sided comments are generally seen as "good". So more people would make them instead of comments that might cause arguments
Nodin wrote: » That's anti-racism, so I'm not seeing what that has to do with "white guilt". Why bother?
Boring username wrote: » Praising Hitler = Instant ban (and rightly so). Praising Stalin or Che Guevera=Totally acceptable.