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dcrosskid

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Better team won Thurles had lot wides

Ag had glorious chance level last play games point on went for goal and it was saved

Thurles are good side but they can be beaten imo

I heard Thurles were the better team alright but made it hard for themselves. I agree though, they are definitely beatable but I don't think there is any stand out team compared to other years.

thinkstoomuch1

Better team won Thurles had lot wides

Ag had glorious chance level last play games point on went for goal and it was saved

Thurles are good side but they can be beaten imo

dcrosskid

Thurles won 2.8 to 1.10 I heard.

thinkstoomuch1

Half time

2-4 Thurles Ag mhurie 0- 7

Butler and Mccarthy two brilliant goals Thurles

Huge wind seems bit Ag so big second half to come could still win

Butler having stormer
Ag got make positional changes imo

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/brian-cuthbert-we-had-to-change-way-we-played-305992.html

Fair point he made with Colm but still at same time I'm confused in reason thought differs in Colm was sub v dublin with no club games even played at all and kerry game imo he was well up and running

Imo key questions weren't asked like why was midfield clearly a huge problem all year not rectified???

Why wasn't laoire given game times when he said everyone get games a run them start league???
Why weren't changes made after twenty minute's and instead waited half time kerry game??
If dinneen and laoire not involved this year why not???
Yer cussen hasn't played senior corl five years is????

He's right cork main aim him is move forwards
But that the concern are cork moving forward
Imo thry haven't in now have no designated coach???
That question cork gaa grassroots fans who spent time money going watch cork surely can ask who is coach cork senior football team?!
As it appears cork have no coach in defined role
What's the story with kerrigan and goulding???

Kelly confirm in southern star he's back but what about the rest
Good article but lot other questions not asked
Why Andrew sullivan persisted with around nine out ten games then discarded such he walked away????
Will cork consider away training camp this year??

Will or have thry video analyst majority training etc
Will organisation be better this year??

Key questions what is the minimum standard he expect cork this year in what will he say if cork don't achieve then he'll say we didn't make progress
Nobody expect corl win all ireland this year but has be certain standard set
In fairness all credit due he acknowledge corl fans passionate gaa men and have right questions things
I geuinely admire him for that
Every body wants him do well. Not point point is on what we see huge concerns

And what system cork playing sunday?! Does anyone please know
Is ot a blanket as by team he picked it's not with three full forwards

Horse84

Did anyone notice landers involvement in the set up last night? It looked as though Matthews was doing all the warm up and I stood near enough to the bench in the second half and couldn't really see him involved on the sideline at all. It was just Jbm, Crowley, Seanie, Matthews and Dr. Con. Good to see jimmy getting very agitated there at times in the second half, he certainly still has the hunger for it no doubt about that

thinkstoomuch1

Figsy32 wrote: »

Yeah I'd agree that he didn't stand out hugely compared to Spillane, Cooper etc who he'd be looking to get ahead of. Still did well though.

I was a little disappointed with Colm Barry's performance. Struggled with Foran.

That's the point of though well isn't good enough if your competitors does more

Barry wasn't great but like said many times don't judge him full back he's not full back

Huge worry me is again failure management realise what good full back play is and again play lad struggled most tomes career at full back corl minor and under twenty one there for senior

Barry is I no doubt a top half back he isn't full back or never will be
Hugely worrying again management don't imo understand full back position
Dennehy charville should be called up as we need cover cahalane gets injured and he's history injury so cork must have cover

Forger about all ireland unless solve full back

thinkstoomuch1

denishurley wrote: »

Doesn't Collins play outfield for Ballinhassig too?

He does Denis

I would be thinking though nash is going be keepers for few years with cork and by time that comes free possibly collins would be in goal at that stage for club as while collins is good outfield he's absolutely as you know highely regarded as keeper and I could be wrong but I'd say few years club will play him there help he's cork claim

He's going be good outfield players but ability imo being exceptional goalie truly one of thee greats in mot just corl but indeed the country imo he's agility and shot stopping so young above anything I ever seen imo

How do think Ag do today Denis??
Will they win

Look like won't make game so seventh report be most welcome please

Figsy32

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'd agree but that my point didn't stand put

Look at Cormac murphy and Anthony Spillane much younger lawton Spillane is yet making statement intent

Lawton doing okay imo isn't good enough in been around senior panel while now where likes Spillane young o donughe young luke meade another example are all making real statement

Lawton trying get ahead Cooper maybes walsh harnedy coughlan lehane good or lively isn't enough

Lively in he was busy at times but certainly imo didn't stand out at all
People said same for naughton for ages he's lively in he runs lot etc and fast never was he think action though
Cork have to simply follow kilkenny ruthless streak

Yeah I'd agree that he didn't stand out hugely compared to Spillane, Cooper etc who he'd be looking to get ahead of. Still did well though.

I was a little disappointed with Colm Barry's performance. Struggled with Foran.

thinkstoomuch1

Figsy32 wrote: »

Barry Lawton got 4 points. 3 from frees and 1 from play! Wouldn't have said he stood out but wasn't destroyed either!

Brian Lawton got a point and looked lively!

I'd agree but that my point didn't stand put

Look at Cormac murphy and Anthony Spillane much younger lawton Spillane is yet making statement intent

Lawton doing okay imo isn't good enough in been around senior panel while now where likes Spillane young o donughe young luke meade another example are all making real statement

Lawton trying get ahead Cooper maybes walsh harnedy coughlan lehane good or lively isn't enough

Lively in he was busy at times but certainly imo didn't stand out at all
People said same for naughton for ages he's lively in he runs lot etc and fast never was he think action though
Cork have to simply follow kilkenny ruthless streak

Figsy32

Orizio wrote: »

What did Barry Lawton score TTM.

Barry Lawton got 4 points. 3 from frees and 1 from play. Wouldn't have said he stood out but wasn't destroyed either.

Brian Lawton got a point and looked lively.

thinkstoomuch1

Orizio wrote: »

What did Barry Lawton score TTM.

Point from play

Richmond Ultra

denishurley wrote: »

Doesn't Collins play outfield for Ballinhassig too?

Yes he plays corner forward for the hassig. Martin Coleman is in goal for them.

denishurley

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Collins superb keeper all he needs going forward is patient as not if he plays senior just when in he's got it all and nash is main man buy once he's patient he will wear corl senior jersey

Darren mac ahead him but Darren mac not playing in goals club may go against him

Doesn't Collins play outfield for Ballinhassig too?

Orizio

What did Barry Lawton score TTM.

Orizio

Pretty crazy playing Lee a day after the Harty, and the leaving on top of that.

thinkstoomuch1

CORK V UL - WATERFORD CRYSTAL CUP SATURDAY AT CIT 2.00 P.M. 08/01/2015

The Cork Senior Hurlers open their 2015 season on Saturday against the University of Limerick, (UL), in the Waterford Crystal Cup, at the CIT grounds, Bishopstown.
Waterford Crystal Cup (Preliminary Round): Cork v UL
Saturday 10th. January 2015, at CIT 2.00 p.m.
Referee: Paul Foley (Waterford)
Extra time if necessary ( 2 periods x 10 Minutes)
Quarter Final: W/e 18th January - Winners Cork / UL v CIT
As always, we'll have live updates from the game here on the website and on our Twitter page, @OfficialCorkGAA.

The Cork team for Saturday’s game lines out as follows:
Patrick Collins (Ballinhassig)
William Kearney (Sarsfields)
Damien Cahalane (St.Finbarr’s)
Sean O’Donoghue (Inniscarra)
Brian O’Sullivan (Fermoy)
Christopher Joyce (Na Piarsaigh)
Glen O’Connor (St.Finbarr’s)
Paul Haughney (Midleton)
Brian Murray (Bishopstown)
Peter Kelleher (Kilmichael)
Alan Frahill-O’Connor (Youghal)
Andy Walsh (Killeagh)
Stephen Moylan (Douglas)
Luke O’Farrell (Midleton)
Dayne Lee (Na Piarsaigh)
Anthony Nash (Kanturk)
Conor O’Sullivan (Sarsfields)
Lorcán McLoughlin (Kanturk)
Brian Lawton (Castlemartyr)
Daniel Kearney (Sarsfields)
Patrick Cronin (Bishopstown)
Darren McCarthy (Ballymartle)
Paudie O’Sullivan (Cloyne)
Patrick Horgan (Glen Rovers)
Christopher Joyce, Na Piarsaigh, lines out at centre back for Cork in their opening round of the Waterford Crystal Cup, at the CIT grounds on Saturday.
Paul Haughney, Midleton and Brian Murray, Bishopstown, form the mid-field partnership.
The selectors have given Peter Kelleher, Kilmichael, Alan Frahill-O’Connor, Youghal, and Andy Walsh, Killeagh the task of leading the half-forward line on this occasion.

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Jbm true word keep same team last Saturday fair play

Good team

Collins superb keeper all he needs going forward is patient as not if he plays senior just when in he's got it all and nash is main man buy once he's patient he will wear corl senior jersey

Darren mac ahead him but Darren mac not playing in goals club may go against him
Cahalane gets run full back and that imo best position
O donoughue imo should swap with sullivan and be fair has done everything asked so far
I can't wait see glen o connor though he had brilliant season and was on cork b strike team before and I like him worth a look

Joyce is brilliant at centre back he's best position
Haughey and Murray imo are too light and too tippy fast hurling and too alike and imo I don't think either has toughness hurling up against likes Paul Browne or riche hogan

Half forward line worries me. In I don't think kelleher will make senior hurling but worth a look
Walsh didn't impress me the other day really
Frahill o connor did work hard
As a unit I'm worries we have three ball winners no scorer here

Full forward line is potential good in Moylan and farell are lethal with debut man dayne lee
Lee has huge potential but I won't judge him in imo after harty cup tommorrow it's huge ask then day after imo mentally more than physically as play harty and make cork debut is lot take in

He has talent to have good game but if doesn't not time to judge him
Imo better half forward also
I think lee main focus should be tommorrow game as plenty time cork and if he's half forward for Ag I think he'll be just fine

Good bench and it's good team

thinkstoomuch1

CORK SENIOR HURLING ANNOUNCE NEW CAPTAIN 08/01/2015
Cork Senior Hurlers announce new team captain for 2015 season.

Jimmy Barry-Murphy and the Cork senior hurling selectors confirm the appointment of Anthony Nash as team captain for 2015.

When making the announcement Barry-Murphy acknowledged the contribution of Patrick Cronin over several seasons. It was with regret he acceded to Patrick's request to step back from the captaincy and to concentrate instead on his playing career. Barry-Murphy emphasised the significant contribution made by Patrick to Cork hurling, leading Cork to the All Ireland Final in 2013 and annexing the Munster title in 2014.

In his inaugural assignment, the inspirational goalkeeper leads out the Cork team in tonight’s Canon O’Brien Cup challenge v’s UCC at the Mardyke. The Kanturk clubman and dual All Star recipient made his Senior debut in 2006.

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Great choice, Walsh I'd chosen but at same time only imo between him walsh and harnedy but great choice and Immense credit to pa cronin for having honesty within to make self sacrifice of asking for captain be taken off him. The none ego of having know he's own performance is paramount to corl and one focus to getting it right is decision must be applauded

Take a bow cronin
Step away from leadership as captain he has in fact shown leadership courage non selfish approach and wonderful leadership in sacrificing he's own profile all for better of he's team and realises no I in team but others better placed for that role
A wonderful role model as captain and was brillant captain and this move now shows again how cork lucky have him and how he really understand values red and white jersey means to him and cork

Everyone I'n cork management and players around country could learn from he's honesty within and non egoistic approach in what had to be a hugely difficult decision but done for benefit of corl hurling overall in when cronin fires cork will too.

As regards burn out I'd agree lot matches now
I was surprised waterford lads played tonight like dj foran considering he played Tuesday challenge for waterford v ul, fair play mcgrath release them as big game

Amount games is a lot there seems to be no easy answer though imo

As for game two players I'm huge fan of in on field display are Cormac murphy and said Anthony Spillane was prospect he was awesome tonight and had brilliant game
This guy has real potential and is fast strong elusive and can score
Has to make league panel has to simply
Another goal tonight he's ruthless but target man.
Two goals two starts in a week.
You see that what I mean in these games you must put your hand up make statement intent
One four from play he really in awful weather done more than you could expect
Should start v WExford in end month challenge unlikely imo have many games ucc as ucc will be out waterford crystal cup next week but I'd start him WExford as done everything asked of
Senior intercounty imo written all over him, a real worker but has he hurling, in spaces and can and will improve imo
Cadogan hit ground running last year he can also imo

He caused cahalane huge problems and cahalane is not a corner back as I said but he physically relished the battle
Colm Barry was in trouble v foran at times I'm not convinced as said before barry is full back
He's half back though yes imo and hope makes cork panel and I wouldnt be harsh on lads that are played out of position

Thought murphy was awesome really tore in the game and benefits hugely now playing half back not moves around half forward as before
He will start v Kilkenney imo has start
Everything you want in player, he will get better and better
Physically imposing, oceans hurling, loves to mix it.
This guy in club, county, intermediate and senior challenge games has been outstanding in not one but every game for cork I saw in last year and I felt should been on panel v tipp last year
Imo absolutely nailed on championship panelist at least but I think starter in June
Has improved no end and I belive lot more in him
Terrific attuide for the game

Lorchan hurled lot ball and was good and walsh after time settle had fine game
O shea had huge battle with kearney and kearney was magical but o shea done as well as he could of

Cronin physically had better of barron,Still imo lot offer cork as full forward not at midfield and maybe half forward as a sub
Many wrote cronin off last year I never did I still think lot to offer and id have him as a sub before cian mac or lawton tbh

Harnedy was brillant and work rate was good some super catches
Paudie done well for goal but fades a bit
I had said before I doubts Darren mac in outfield when announced he'd be tried their imo I don't think he's best option and sub goalie is best option
He should been half forward to be fair I still think cork though have better options

Horgan done well as but you expect that and I said he's fine these games
Kilkenney is test imo but I'd start Spillane ahead of him

Lawton ucc was good be fair, brian lawton cork I said before I don't think senior is him but fine club player yeah,

I wouldn't start him v WExford yes and that's a tougher test.

Cooper was very good he's off ball work rate I's phenomal and imo Cody type player.
Will continue to improve and imo certain starter come championship.
Killan burke was good, and had fine game ucc at times
Tadhg burke also waterford good v Cooper but Cooper really gave him game

Good win and ger cunningham had sweeper in heavy conditions at end so great test for cork
Definitely good test tonight imo
And in just two games compared this time last year marked improvement in attuide and intensity and that's what top division hurling does for you and introduce lads that can challenge others in brings real real focus where last year div two just was go through the motions
This will only benefits cork going forward as no div two team will win an all ireland now
Hasn't been since 1996 WExford and statistics done lie

Richmond Ultra

Reports in the echo, score.ie and examiner tomorrow.

Richmond Ultra

GAA2TheCore wrote: »

Anyone have the teams from tonight's cork UCC match ? And anyone that was at an report would be much appreciated

Teams were listed in an image above.

Cork started off better Kearney point within first minute.
Paudie dull scored a bullet on 8 mins from a long ball in. Cork went 1-4 to 0-3 ahead at this stage. Jamie Barron and Brian Lawton got a few points.
On 15 minutes Anthony spillane pulled down by number 4. ref awards a peno. Barron dispatches bottom left corner. Nash never had a chance.
Cork continued scoring Hoggy getting a few frees. Darren Mac not very active better suited to half forward in my opinion.

Ht 1-13 to 1-05 cork in the lead.

Second half starts Anthony Spillane scores bullet goal top right corner.
Intensity was kept up but Cork just stronger on the field.

Kearney my man of the match

GAA2TheCore

Anyone have the teams from tonight's cork UCC match ? And anyone that was at an report would be much appreciated

Figsy32

Richmond Ultra wrote: »

Well tonights game was wet but both teams gave it there all.

Barely warmed up from it still!

Competitive and good enough but hard to read too much into it in such miserable conditions! Impressed by Anthony Spillane. Cormac Murphy had one or two dodgy moments but looked good overall I thought. Daniel Kearney was a class above everyone.

ShamoBuc

Heard the conditions were shocking apparently, first 1 on 1 pen scored by UCC, nice crowd given the conditions but most were gone by ht- bad night for it. Pa Cronin, Lorcan and Kearney all did well but its hard to comment given the attrocious conditions.

Richmond Ultra

Well tonights game was wet but both teams gave it there all.

It makes sense

seventh7 wrote: »

Its a very delicate balance between confident and Cocky. Lots of kids lack confidence and with coaches that look for kids with confidence and swagger these kids can be sidelined. It should be about nurturing and bringing them on seeing the possibility for development down the line. We have a non physical mindset in Cork hurling, we think that we are the aristocrats of hurling as in the past we have been, our skill levels usually helped to get over the line against more robust apponents. The game has moved on driven by the likes of Klkenny. We have favoured lighter wristy underage hurlers over the more robust can do kids. Our underage results show this stark fact. By limiting the selection process we have compacted our player base. Team selection must be about balance and unfortunatley at underage level the balance has been ignored for many years now. Kids grow and develope at different times and the slower maturing kids have been marginalised. The academy structure has helped in recent years but it still promotes underage stars. It has been the experience of other sports namely soccer that very few kids make the grade at the top level, therefore the broader the player base the better chance of bring through kids to senior level.

Would agree seven, have seen a lot of cork underage last few years stars at u14 not making it up to minor remember big strong lad John o' Sullivan from Ahan Gaels I think a few years ago was fantastic but have not seen him last few years, Sean og gately from Courcey again u14/15 great prospect then. Young lads change very quickly physical at 17/18, have to be fairly robust to move onto adult hurling

N20

It makes sense wrote: »

Saw him play a few times last year looked a big strong lad played hard but fair would hope that he would be get some rest in between all the games as eventually his body will fail somewhere down the line. Amazing with all the talk about burnout that good youngsters are still being expected to play so many matches and train, has to have some effect

Good piece in Examiner too today

And somewhere in between they are supposed to have time and energy to do exams as well

High achievers all but tough going

ShamoBuc

zetecescort wrote: »

Anthony Nash new Cork captain.

Very deserving I think, delighted with that choice.

It makes sense

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

With so much talk about burnout in the last few days young Sean O Donoughue is an example ...my god to have those commitments already in the season and its not even 10 days old ...JBM must have great time for him...i think he will be on the u21 football starting 15 as well...not to mention Freshers ..not to mention his club commitments...and all the training ...the GAA season we love it ...it can drive us mad ...but it is what it is 2 games ...

Saw him play a few times last year looked a big strong lad played hard but fair would hope that he would be get some rest in between all the games as eventually his body will fail somewhere down the line. Amazing with all the talk about burnout that good youngsters are still being expected to play so many matches and train, has to have some effect

N20

COL6CB wrote: »

I think that thinks too much has a great knowledge of hurling. So you're talking waffle

Carry on so

COL6CB

N20 wrote: »

Ah lads - will Ye not be paying any attention to the ****e and waffle that's put up on forums

Fellas are busy promoting their own and everyone thinks they're an expert

keep the head down andd get on with yer games

Or at least pass on the message
G'luck

I think that thinks too much has a great knowledge of hurling. So you're talking waffle