Tarzana2 wrote: » At 30, you might. Maybe. Just about. But 30 ain't 40. Come back to us in 10 years.
Tarzana2 wrote: » Nah, he looks like a good-looking middle aged man.
Wibbs wrote: » Hate to break it to you but that's physiologically way off. Actual science like. Certainly for men. The hormonal profile of a 40 year old man is at worst 10% lower than at 30. Eating healthily(and less), exercising and in fairness the help of genetics shouldn't see much if anything of a difference in body shape and overall fitness at 40. The real drops happen after 50 and even then it's pretty slow until 60. Indeed if a guy was a bit of a slob at 25 and got the fitness bug at 35 he'd look better physically at 40 than at 20. I dunno all this apparently rapid decay being talked about here seems to be more about excuses for slobbing out because of a date on a calendar. Ah shure don't we all get old, so that's alright like type stuff. Or "we'll all get old someday, so what does it matter if your GF/BF gets fat now". Middle aged spread is all very well, but the clue is in the phrase, getting "middle aged spread" at 25 is a very different thing and something all too easily avoided. A lot of this stuff is cultural. Go back in time and you see a different picture in many cultures. EG Aristotle reckoned that men shouldn't get married until their late 30's(to 18 year old women) as they were at their peak then. Before the law was relaxed Roman soldiers didn't get hitched and start families until they retired in their early to mid forties. There were also gladiators in their forties. And all that's before modern medicine. The altar of youth is much more a fairly recent western thing. The 1960's "don't trust anyone over 30" really copperfastened it.
Dean0088 wrote: » But he'll look a damn sight better than his mate who sits at home every evening watching TV.
PhilBill wrote: » Google is a great place for information.
steddyeddy wrote: » Sylvester Stallone at 60 VS an overweight 20 year old.
steddyeddy wrote: » Well then use it to form a decent rebuttal for once. (Or to look up the word rebuttal).
steddyeddy wrote: » Sorry but I completely disagree with this "Oh well the body ages attitude". The body can still look excellent at 50 if people work out and take measures to improve. There are some 40 year olds with better bodies than some 20 year olds. Lifestyle is the primary factor.
Wibbs wrote: » Hate to break it to you but that's physiologically way off. Actual science like. Certainly for men. The hormonal profile of a 40 year old man is at worst 10% lower than at 30.
Tarzana2 wrote: » That's great. Still won't look the same in ten years time and not for the better.
Tarzana2 wrote: » Indeed, if the 20 year old doesn't work. If he does, there's no comparison. Nobody is saying that you need to accept it and stop working out. But even with working out, your body will age. Your face will age. Doesn't mean you won't look good. But you will look older.
Wibbs wrote: » George is the perfect example of a man getting better looking with age. George at 25 versus George at 50.
steddyeddy wrote: » I would say most people are image conscious.
Tarzana2 wrote: » So... things have worsened.
Dean0088 wrote: » He has 10% less testosterone. He can still get up off his arse and go for a run.
Littlekittylou wrote: » But who is more image conscious? The gay male world is much more image conscious than the gay female world.Studies show gay men have the worst body image esteem out of straight men gay women and straight women.
Littlekittylou wrote: » Hypothetical healthy man still won't get a date though because life wants to bite him in the butthole. Prolly wishes he ate more chocolate.
steddyeddy wrote: » Never say that without producing the studies.
Gay men are thought to experience body-image concerns or disorders more frequently than heterosexual men. It is unclear, however, whether these putative concerns are due to unrealistic body ideals (aspiring to a body shape that is difficult or impossible to attain), body-image distortion (misperceiving the actual shape of one's body), or both. We administered a well-established computerized body-image test, the "somatomorphic matrix," to 37 gay men recruited from the community in April 1999 and compared the results with previous data from 49 community-recruited heterosexual comparison men and 24 clinic-recruited heterosexual men with eating disorders. Gay men were indistinguishable from the community-recruited heterosexual comparison men on measures of both body ideals and body-image distortion. By contrast, eating-disordered men were significantly distinguishable from both other groups on body-image distortion. The lack of differences between community gay and heterosexual men on body-image indices seems unlikely to represent a type II error, since the somatomorphic matrix showed ample power to detect abnormalities in the eating-disordered men, despite the smaller sample size of the latter group. Contrary to our hypotheses, gay men did not differ significantly from heterosexual men on measures of body image. These unexpected findings cast doubt on the widespread belief that gay men experience greater body-image dissatisfaction than heterosexual men. If our findings are valid, it follows that some previous studies of body image in gay men may possibly have been influenced by selection bias.
Wibbs wrote: » Not nearly as bad as if you're a woman though. Men have so many more advantages as far as aging is concerned. TBH it's why I have little sympathy for men who whine about getting old in their 30's and yep I've heard a few muppets express that at that age.
Tarzana2 wrote: » He looks 50. And honestly not better looking. There's bad 80s hair going on, but transplant that onto him now, or give him the 50 something haircut then, and 25 yo George wins for me. And your Mick Jagger example from earlier was ridiculous.
Shabra wrote: » What???
Littlekittylou wrote: » okhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15554772
Tarzana2 wrote: » Nobody is saying you can't keep fit and look good at any age. It's the self-appraised proclamations of looking better at 40 than 20 years before that are impossible to take seriously.
Littlekittylou wrote: » I just that to myself that would be the way wouldn't it?
steddyeddy wrote: » Where's the comparison between gay men and women there?
