shruikan2553 wrote: » The atheists are big into religious violence, just look at the north!
Joeytheparrot wrote: » What does that mean?
shruikan2553 wrote: » atheists are big into extremism and violence
Mr. Incognito wrote: » I see no difference between militant atheists and religious fundamentalists.
Paco Rodriguez wrote: » How did all the atheists cope for all the amount of years that cross was up there? Why is this debate only happening now? It's not like there is an atheist convention held on top of that mountain every year, and ye having to look at it all the time!
padd b1975 wrote: » Most of them probably weren't aware of it's existence up to a few weeks back.
Cantremember wrote: » It's on private land, doesn't seem to require planning permission and is completely silly. I hope a Muslim, a Jew, a Hindu, a Sikh, a Zoroastrian, a Buddhist, a Mormon, a Scientologist, a devotee of the spaghetti monster all buy land on Kerry mountains, maybe even Carantuhil. And they all put up giant symbols of their beliefs. The crowning glory would be a fertility cult with symbols of human genitalia. It could be a new theme park for Kerry, sales of Flat caps could soar and it would be an Irish Disneyland.
looksee wrote: » It has to be replaced or the vandals have won.
Paco Rodriguez wrote: » That's my point. So why get all worked up about it? If you think someone is in the wrong and are oblivious/ don't want to change/ or are not in the wrong, just let them. They're not climbing the mountain anyway. Why stress over something that isn't relevant to their immediate lives?
Bubbaclaus wrote: » Private property or not it is still a national landmark and it doesn't seem right to have a big symbol right at the top of it only representing a certain demographic. Just my opinion.
stimpson wrote: » I love the way people assume atheists did this. It could have just as easily been the People's Front of Judea. All things considered, how do we not know that it wasn't gods will that it be cut down. Personally speaking, if I was God and people were putting up representations of the murder weapon used to kill my son I'd be pretty pissed off. I'd be smiting those people like there was no tomorrow. Think Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Ficton.
Badly Drunk Boy wrote: » I don't think people really saw it as a religious symbol. I've seen interviews with people who have climbed Carrauntoohil, and they were saying that seeing the landmark of the cross gave them a spur, showing that they were nearly there.The group Atheist Ireland practically admitted to doing. They just didn't admit it for definite, being the cowards they are. I'm an atheist, by the way.
Badly Drunk Boy wrote: » The group Atheist Ireland practically admitted to doing. They just didn't admit it for definite, being the cowards they are.
hfallada wrote: » After a while religious symbols are no longer just religious symbols but an icon of an area. Like the statue of Jesus in Rio de Janeiro in Brazil. With Brazil no longer being that Catholic, should the Jesus statue be removed? No as its the icon of the city. Atheist removing these symbols are just taking their intolerance of religion to another level. Im not religious but Im not going to loss sleep over a cross at the top of a mountain. For a intercultural society, people need to be tolerant of each other. As secularism has failed in places like France. Where as in Catholic Quebec, the region didnt dilute its culture to integrate its immigrants. It remained Catholic and French speaking. It thought its heritage to newly arrived immigrants and as a result, its multicultural society has fewer issues than secular countries like France
Badly Drunk Boy wrote: » I don't think people really saw it as a religious symbol. I've seen interviews with people who have climbed Carrauntoohil, and they were saying that seeing the landmark of the cross gave them a spur, showing that they were nearly there.
Footage of the Carrauntoohil cross being felled has been released to the media and is now being examined by gardaí. A video of the incident was sent to TheJournal.ie earlier today and shows an unidentified individual cutting the cross at the base with an angle grinder. The cross is seen falling later in the video. The Journal reports that the footage was passed on to detectives in Kilorglin who said it a “new development” in the investigation.
bodice ripper wrote: » The plot thickens
catallus wrote: » Shirley you mean the thicks plotten?
fitzy24 wrote: » im big an mussel'y and can cut down anything big hill no bother ; cobwebs on the cave no bother clear dem right away no bother im; the angel grinder man
lazybones32 wrote: » How fortunate we live in a Country where our current experience of extremism is someone cutting down a cross and others getting upset because it is put back up.
Cookie_Monster wrote: » wait, who owns the summit and why doesn't the public? That's mad Ted
Its Only Ray Parlour wrote: » That was my first thought when I heard the mountain was private land. I didn't think it was possible to buy an entire a mountain, unless you paid the county council or government a shítload of money.
