moxin wrote: » In other news, Tierney has said water pipe leakage is at 48%. 500m was spent installing meters, why didn't they fix the leaks FIRST with this money?
moxin wrote: » Burton now says 200 quid is a NET charge after credits applied, our beloved RTE quote govt sources as saying her words are more hopeful than factual..LOL http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1104/656768-irish-water/ In other news, Tierney has said water pipe leakage is at 48%. 500m was spent installing meters, why didn't they fix the leaks FIRST with this money?
Going Forward wrote: » Half those protesting don't really know why they're protesting, and the bufoon Kenny just stated that the protests have the possibility of making PAYE tax payers liable for an extra 4%. Is this what those protesting actually want?
This whole thing should be put to bed as is, scrap the pointless allowances, delete all PPS numbers, and forget about any imagined savings. There is no honesty from government about full cost charging, it's no wonder.
As regards, concessions, there's no real poverty in Ireland, I don't see what the fuss is over €2 or €3 per week.
As regards protecting against privatising, why not create a requirement for a future referendum if privatisation is ever mooted in the future.
They've lost credibility.
Streetwalker wrote: » A constant stream of money is needed to pay back the banking debts. IW was set up for that purpose it's nothing to do with conserving water or any of that BS.
Streetwalker wrote: » A constant stream of money is needed to pay back the banking debts.
opinionated3 wrote: » Absolutely bang on. Two sentences that have just summed up exactly what all this scam is about.
Irish Steve wrote: » You think so, the reality is that IW was set up to get water and waste water out of the control, mismanagement and inappropriate manipulation from sleeveen local politicians who had zero interest in long term infrastructure, and only cared for visible vote winning short term projects that would win votes.
If IW had been properly set up, with management that were not parachuted in from other semi states, and a local staff inherited from under performing local authorities, it might have had half a chance, but as presently structured and mis managed, it's fatally flawed and will not deliver any of the promises made, not unlike the HSE, and other similar semi state quangos.
Banjo String wrote: » Excellent summarisation Kaiser. My sentiments exactly.
Larbre34 wrote: » Taoiseach Gerry Adams for the 1916 centenary? Think I'll just grab some magic mushrooms and p1ss off to the twilight zone now if it's all the same to you.
_Kaiser_ wrote: » I have to disagree with this bit... IW was setup as the Troika demanded it as part of the bailout conditions - apparently as a precursor to privatisation as it turns out. Nothing at all to do with getting the supply and treatment of our water supplies in order - that's been the spin used to try and get the public to buy in (and cough up) for the idea, otherwise they wouldn't have done this: IW was never intended to be anything more than a cash-cow to repay "our" debts and serve as another quango for FG to reward their supporters. Where they appear to have badly miscalculated though - and I've been surprised myself to be honest - is assuming the public would just roll over and pay up as they have to-date. Whatever the reason for this, my greatest hope from recent events is that it signals the beginning of the end of the Irish electorate's apathy and ignorance of how this country has been mismanaged since pretty much the formation of this State, and that people start to take a more active interest and role in ensuring that the politicians we elect deliver on what they promise, and remember that they are there to serve us - NOT the other way around! Very much remains to be seen though, but if things return to "normal" when this mess has been resolved (one way or another), then I think we'll have missed a very valuable opportunity not likely to be repeated.
Wurly wrote: » Taken from the Boycott Irish Water page on Facebook:
Wurly wrote: » Taken from the Boycott Irish Water page on Facebook: "Hubert Kearns was Sligo County Manager for 17 years and when he retired in 2013 he received a lump sum of 270,000 and a pension of 68,000 per year. His time as Sligo manager was controversial and he left behind a County debt of 80 million. "It's not the end of the world, nobody died," he said about the council's financial woes. At one stage he refused to attend council meetings in a dispute with an independent Councillor and spent more than €50,000 council money hiring HR consultant Declan Naughton to monitor meetings. Asked to comment on reports that his own pay as Sligo Manager, at €136,000, was €30,000 more than that of the Spanish prime minister, Mr Kearns said his salary was fixed by Government. “I am surprised that the Spanish prime minister earns so little.” So after retiring from Sligo he has his pockets full, thanks to the taxpayer - that's YOU and ME, So, has Mr Kearns taken up fishing? No, Hubert has apparently found gainful employment with Irish Water. Irish Water, home to retired Council managers, headed up by retired Dublin Manager John Tierney (salary 200,000 Eur). But apparently Irish Water managers (like Hubert?) would have to get by on a measly 100,000. Hopefully though they might be able to survive once the expenses and free cars are factored in. So you can see good people why it's going to take 20 years to fix all those rusty old water pipes!""
emo72 wrote: » i have read this post a hundred times on different websites. and still i read it in its entirety each time. because its so shocking. its the equivalent of watching a slow motion car crash. we know its so terrible but we cant take our away from it. who is now googling "how to make molotov cocktails"?
Little CuChulainn wrote: » Only violent scumbags.
cajonlardo wrote: » Give it a rest. We all know who the real scumbags are and you time is up.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » So you think the use of violence is justifiable rather than wait for the next general election?
emo72 wrote: » incidentally, i notice the only thing you took offence too was the term molotov cocktail. not the outrageous detail before it that made everyones jaw drop. and there i was standing there holding it waiting for you to offer me matches:rolleyes:
