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.@flyethiopian to operate new Addis Ababa-@DublinAirport-@flyLAXairport service from next June. http://t.co/r2r3kPaO54

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Tenger

christy c wrote: »

Am I missing something or are they spending 13 hours on the ground in LA?

Qantas used to do the same in LAX a while back. You would see 2 B747's sitting on remote stands all day long. Not every airline feels the need to sweta their assets 20 hours per day. Good flight timings ensure high loads which beats 20 hours in the air per day. (Could well be a different story these days, haven't been in LAX myself in about 2-3 years)

Fred Swanson

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Preset No.3

Would anyone really want to arrive in LA after a 10 hour flight, conduct whatever business they had and fly back the same day?

Fred Swanson

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Dublinflyer

There are a lot of politics around the desk usage that hour of the morning and the airlines have regular pi$$ing competitions over them. It becomes interesting when there are a lot of delays. We put in 2 extra desks this year and they are looking for more for next year but I have no clue where they are going to squeeze them in. The EI end could be put to better use as a lot of the time they don't use all the desks but that is a whole other story, they are very protective of their real estate. It's all up in the air, sorry, at the moment so anything is possible. What will be really entertaining will be if another long haul route is announced and one of the conditions is the use of T2 in the morning. In the afternoon and evening that whole end is pretty much empty for a lot of the day. The whole stand situation is going to be a nightmare next year.

ProfessorPlum

I would have thought there was plenty of spare check in capacity on the non aer lingus side? I've never noticed it to be full (although I notice very little at that stage in the morning) Stand capacity is another issue though.

Dublinflyer

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

I had heard a rumour that they wouldn't be using CBP in Dublin and that schedule confirms it. In fact with that turn around it's difficult to see them doing much more than fueling up. I guess they aren't expecting many pax getting on/off at DUB?

I have heard that they will be operating out of T1. I have to admit that surprised me but as we all know T2 check in is chock full at that time of the morning.

LXFlyer

christy c wrote: »

Why would that be? I would he thought they'd try to get back as fast as possible and do any maintenance/checks in their home base

Well it depends on when is the optimum time for flights - when do people want to fly?

BA flights in either direction to/from South Africa are traditionally overnight. That means a long layover. Same with many flights to/from South America.

Overnight flights facilitates business travellers.

christy c

lxflyer wrote: »

That sort of long aircraft layover is not that unusual on long haul sectors.

BA for example have 12 hour layovers in Johannesburg and Sao Paolo.

Why would that be? I would he thought they'd try to get back as fast as possible and do any maintenance/checks in their home base

LXFlyer

christy c wrote: »

Am I missing something or are they spending 13 hours on the ground in LA?

That sort of long aircraft layover is not that unusual on long haul sectors.

BA for example have 12 hour layovers in Johannesburg and Sao Paolo.

Growler!!!

christy c wrote: »

Am I missing something or are they spending 13 hours on the ground in LA?

I see 14 hours. Will it be the same crew on minimum rest? Another crew? Will have to dig out my FTL and have a gander:D

christy c

Tenger wrote: »

Schedule has been released:

ET504 ADD 2300–0530 DUB 0630–0930 LAX

ET505 LAX 2330–1830 DUB 1930–0600 ADD

Am I missing something or are they spending 13 hours on the ground in LA?

mooseknunkle

Tenger wrote: »

Schedule has been released:

ET504 ADD 2300–0530 DUB 0630–0930 LAX

ET505 LAX 2330–1830 DUB 1930–0600 ADD

Have they got it up on their website yet im looking at flights for next July but Dublin isnt coming up

goingnowhere

Clearly no stands in T2 either that time of day and CBP don't open till later

ProfessorPlum

I had heard a rumour that they wouldn't be using CBP in Dublin and that schedule confirms it. In fact with that turn around it's difficult to see them doing much more than fueling up. I guess they aren't expecting many pax getting on/off at DUB?

Tenger

Schedule has been released:

ET504 ADD 2300–0530 DUB 0630–0930 LAX

ET505 LAX 2330–1830 DUB 1930–0600 ADD

lord lucan

owenc wrote: »

I don't know what they think they would be getting in UK or Ireland by staying illegally. I don't think these people realise that living here is no good without any money as you will still end up living on the streets or in a shack.

You thanked my post asking people to move on from the off topic discussion but take it off topic yourself!! Can we just drop the asylum seekers talk.

owenc

I don't know what they think they would be getting in UK or Ireland by staying illegally. I don't think these people realise that living here is no good without any money as you will still end up living on the streets or in a shack.

Fred Swanson

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lord lucan

Can we draw a line under the politics and historical aspects,there's other forums for that if you wish to take it forward.

owenc

Deleted User wrote: »

I was wondering where the "dem durty immigrints and dere durty immigrint planez" argument would rear its ugly head. Thought it would be in AH to be honest.

Smurfjed, I presume you think the UKIP is a good thing then......

I would say that the United Kingdom Independence Party would be of no concern of anyone in the Republic of Ireland.

owenc

eatmyshorts wrote: »

Quite a lot, actually.
Passengers board with their passport, then before disembarking, they destroy them and flush them down the toilet. Therefore, immigration authorities at the port if arrival cannot prove from what jurisdiction the passenger is from, and have major troubles deporting them back due to the hysterical whinging of the left wing do-gooders.

A yeah but this is the announcement of a new route to Los Angles not the illegal immigration of Africans.

Tenger

Can we all agree that historically there has been a problem with immigration via airports and the issue of pax doing their best to ensure they cannot be deported? This is not solely reserved to pax originating from Africa.

Now we have a direct service there exists the possibility of similar occurances. I'm sure that the DAA and Gardai are aware of this issue and will take steps to close only loopholes. And you can be damn sure that the US CBP setup will be pretty strict with any breach of their protocols. With CBP being involved it is no longer as simple as 10 yrs ago when you could hide in the Pier A toilets until the immigration officers go home at 11pm.

eatmyshorts

owenc wrote: »

Could please say what passports have got to do with aviation??????

Quite a lot, actually.
Passengers board with their passport, then before disembarking, they destroy them and flush them down the toilet. Therefore, immigration authorities at the port if arrival cannot prove from what jurisdiction the passenger is from, and have major troubles deporting them back due to the hysterical whinging of the left wing do-gooders.

eatmyshorts

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I was wondering where the "dem durty immigrints and dere durty immigrint planez" argument would rear its ugly head. Thought it would be in AH to be honest.

Smurfjed, I presume you think the UKIP is a good thing then......

The usual wail of the tree hugging left. Anyone who mentions any concern about immigration is automatically branded and fascist bigot.
Freedom of speech, but only if you agree with the left's looney ideas.

owenc

Could please say what passports have got to do with aviation??????

[Deleted User]

I was wondering where the "dem durty immigrints and dere durty immigrint planez" argument would rear its ugly head. Thought it would be in AH to be honest.

Smurfjed, I presume you think the UKIP is a good thing then......

LXFlyer

We are talking about an airline that is a member of Star Alliance here?

Hardly in the same league as some other African companies.

smurfjed

Speculations abound regarding what might have prompted the copilot to attempt such a brazen escape. Hailemehdin is not unique in seeking to exit his home country; the latest data from UNHCR found that in the first half of 2013, nearly 42,000 people sought asylum from Ethiopia. This could have something to do with with fear of persecution; Ethiopian security forces have been criticized for committing human rights abuses against anti-government activists and religious or ethnic minorities. Poverty is another issue, with at least one-fourth of the population living below the poverty line. http://www.ibtimes.com/hailemedhin-abera-tegegn-who-ethiopian-airlines-hijacker-why-was-he-desperate-asylum-1556121

So you don't think that precautions should be taken?

The top three countries of origin are Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia. In Ireland, we get refugees from all over the world but the most frequent countries of origin are China, Nigeria, Pakistan and the Democratic Republic of Congo.http://www.irishrefugeecouncil.ie/information-and-referral-service/faqs-about-asylum

BuffyBot

Well you put forward a theory with little evidence to back it up...so in the absence of that, what should a body think?