LordSutch wrote: » Obviously the BA could have destroyed the PIRA in a cople of days (if it was on a one to one face off)
LordSutch wrote: » just like Hamas the PIRA were embedded among (some of) the nationalist community in NI just like Hamas are in Gaza, and look what's happening there. Thankfully the BA never adopted the all out war policies that the Israeli Army have, because if the had, not only would the PIRA have been wiped out, but so too would half the population of NI & probably the Republic too.
end of the road wrote: » NI belongs to the island of ireland and if they want to rejoin the republic then it should happen whether the republic wants them or not.
Happyman42 wrote: » The agreement only stands among those who voted for it.Keep ignoring the reality that there are those on both sides who didn't sign up to it
Happyman42 wrote: » That number is growing, not diminishing. As I say, the usual terminal stupidity of British and Irish governments is to ignore these things until they become uncontrollable problems.
end of the road wrote: » they wouldn't and much of the population of britain as bombs would have gone off there left right and centre
Fratton Fred wrote: » The ira, with their fertilizer bombs and a handful of armalites, with maybe a few home made mortars could have beaten the British army with challenger tanks, Harrier jump jets and stuff like that? Good luck with that one.
feargale wrote: » So only those who vote for a government are bound by its laws. Numbers don't count and you know better than the people. General Franco is alive and well. What contempt for the people!
Oh wait. Numbers do count - but only when they might give the impression of being favourable to you.
Berserker wrote: » So, if the people of N.I. decide that they want to join us, we have to accept them without question, irrespective of what it is likely to cost us; socially and financially? I don't think so. That would be FF-esque negligence on the part of the establishment here. I'll tell you what should and will happen, if such a vote ever happens. If N.I. voted to amalgamate with us then the people of Ireland would decide whether or not we wanted them. It a mute point at the moment, as there is no appetite for such an amalgamation outside a small percentage of republicans with time on their hands.
Happyman42 wrote: » You should post up the results of this 'poll' that you have taken.
Berserker wrote: » So, if the people of N.I. decide that they want to join us, we have to accept them without question, irrespective of what it is likely to cost us; socially and financially?
Berserker wrote: » I don't think so.
Berserker wrote: » That would be FF-esque negligence on the part of the establishment here.
Berserker wrote: » I'll tell you what should and will happen, if such a vote ever happens. If N.I. voted to amalgamate with us then the people of Ireland would decide whether or not we wanted them.
end of the road wrote: » yes. it would be worth it. well i do and you will accept them. not at all. no, the south will be told what is happening, we will accept them as i said and thats it.
end of the road wrote: » yes. it would be worth it.
VinLieger wrote: » Explain exactly how it would be worth it considering NI is not self sustaining economy that is proper up by the British taxpayer and we already are taking out loans to cover our own costs on a monthly basis as it is.
end of the road wrote: » it would be worth the reunification of ireland which has been the goal since 1921 when part of our country was sold away and stolen from the people
Happyman42 wrote: » Has the reality that this is not going away changed after your prissy little rant? Eh...no. Brilliant head in the sand answer...top of the class. Go have a rant on somebody else's time. Your nonsense constantly stops these threads getting anywhere, I can't be bothered.
marienbad wrote: » If such a poll were taken again would you accept the results ?
Happyman42 wrote: » We are not talking about people who will take part in your poll. What I would accept has sweet fa to do with it.
marienbad wrote: » What are you saying ? Can you please speak plainly ? It is not my poll ,I am asking if there was a rerun of the GFA referenda/polls right now, woylf you accept the outcome ?
Berserker wrote: » Thankfully, I can decipher republican gobbledygook. The poster is telling us that he would accept the results if it suited his agenda. If the results did not support his view then he would rubbish it as sectarian nonsense.
Happyman42 wrote: » Grow up and then come back with some sensible comment.
Happyman42 wrote: » And those numbers (as has been pointed out by political leaders, (particularly the ones partitionist Dublin governments never want to listen to) are on the rise.
Berserker wrote: » Too close to the truth, was I?
VinLieger wrote: » So the financial and economic ruin of both countries would be wroth it? Neither country is currently in a stable enough state for reunification. Reunification just for the sake of it is a ridiculous attitude if it leads financial collapse again.
end of the road wrote: » not at all, it would all be for the genuine cause of reunifying ireland as one country
Happyman42 wrote: » Yes I would as I did the first time around. That is of no importance here though, the GFA is inadequate in terms of bringing large amounts of both sides into constitutional politics. And those numbers (as has been pointed out by political leaders, (particularly the ones partitionist Dublin governments never want to listen to) are on the rise. What good is yours or my 'agreements' in the face of that is the question. Not worth a hill of beans imo. Grow up and then come back with some sensible comment.
marienbad wrote: » How is the GFA inadequate ? No matter what you do there will always be a percentage that disagree. And that is absolutely unavoidable -surely you see that ? That fact is an overwhelming majority both north and south are happy with how things are going.
Happyman42 wrote: » I don't know what you don't get about me agreeing with you. All that above does not solve the problem though. There are significant numbers to whom the agreement does not apply. And anybody with any REAL interest knows that the agreement is lurching fro crisis to crisis at the moment, increasing the numbers of dissenters. And the two governments are largely ignoring that and once again 'accepting' a level of violence and insurrection, with the blessings of some of the people. History should have taught them that you cannot walk away from the core problem.
