VinLieger wrote: » Yes I do, my ancestors are your ancestors, but Ive gotten over it
Karl Stein wrote: » You obviously aren't a relative of one of the 150 innocent men women and children who were murdered in the north by the British army or the hundreds more who were murdered by loyalists who the BA/RUC/UDR colluded with. Would you tell them to 'get over it'?
Happyman42 wrote: » Your clear implication in the post was, that SF would somehow gain by being quiet on the subject. You write it...we can only interpret it. Calm down! Yes, they were protesting at the idea of any Irishmen/women dying for the British crown...whose forces never had any problem disrupting a funeral service of the recently dead whenever they saw fit btw. And please...less of the childish name calling. I have not one shred of support in my body for those you refer to as 'dissidents' but I will defend their right to peaceful protest, as I would anybodies,
martingriff wrote: » Could they have been fighting to make sure that the world would be a safe peacful place. But no that would be asking to people to think outside there hatred I suppose
Happyman42 wrote: » That is a matter of interpretation I suppose.What beggars belief about all of this is that there are still people on this island that think the GFA cured all our ills. It simply hasn't and there are sizable numbers who still believe we have a way to go, on both sides. It will only continue to fester as the two governments play happy families reunited. Ignore it if you wish but don't act suprised everytime this rears it's head...it will continue to happen.
pojfexcsc wrote: » Some probably thought they were, reality is this was thousands of normal young fellas being put to the slaughter by those in charge, most as has been mentioned were fighting to either put food on their families plates and/or sent under false pretences about getting home rule and all.
martingriff wrote: » Oh I do agree with you there however if you continue to fester hatred and not try some type of reconciliation in your own way then it will continue with the sons, daughters. Moving forward is needed however for anyone to think it is as easy as an agreement been signed then are deluded
Strazdas wrote: » I would still say the British Army were not the main players in the conflict. By the IRA's own admission, they were engaged in a "war" to try and force the British state to withdraw from NI. The British Army were responding to that and yes, behaved very badly at times but they were not the root cause of the sectarian conflict between republicanism and loyalism.
VinLieger wrote: » Gonna repeat what was said by someone earlier, attrocities were committed by both sides.
Strazdas wrote: » I would still say the British Army were not the main players in the conflict
Karl Stein wrote: » unionist/loyalist domination was over for good.
Happyman42 wrote: » The mistake that is being made again is that these people are being polarised and marginalised by those whose responsibility is to address the issues...that will reap it's own harvest. We have enough history to prove that.
RollieFingers wrote: » The posts from the republican boyos on here are absolutely cringe-worthy, "The British are our enemy", blah blah blah, you're like a broken record. I'm Irish but England and the Queen are no enemy of mine, I know what happened in the past was terrible but you have to move on, you come across as such bitter, warped people who just cannot move on. What good comes from such pent up hatred?
Happyman42 wrote: » Your clear implication in the post was, that SF would somehow gain by being quiet on the subject. You write it...we can only interpret it. Calm down!
martingriff wrote: » Why should it be up to them. I think the ordinary people can and should be the ones to start to address the issues. Yes everyone need to be at the table but the first move can be taken by anyone Before you ask why should they make the first move I will ask why not
Strazdas wrote: » It's not as if the British Army had any particular opinion on NI remaining within the UK or becoming part of a united Ireland.
any1butdublin3 wrote: » If the queen gave medals to soldiers who shot innocent people in Galway, Cork or Dublin your opinion would be different.
VinLieger wrote: » Wow could you have more of a chip on your shoulder please? We get it you don't like people from the south of Ireland cus we didn't suffer like you did, its not our fault you know?
RollieFingers wrote: » I couldn't really care to be honest, but anyway that never happened so it's completely irrelevant to the discussion. I get that you guys hate the British, but again I ask, what good comes from such harbouring such bitter hatred for people? What exactly do you hope to acheive?
any1butdublin3 wrote: » If hating an army and royal family who have shown my people little respect means I have a chip on my shoulder then that is ok. I don't dislike the people of rep. of Ireland as I am not a bigot, I just dislike certain individuals.
Hunterbiker wrote: » As far as I know there is no medal for shooting innocent civilians anywhere... If only the UK Government had handled these incidents differently rather than let them fester. The landmark enquiry did go some way to right the wrongs of Bloody Sunday but because of the time involved its never going to be enough to appease some people. As is common with NI there are no winners. If those soldiers were brought to trial then surely they should treated as the same as PIRA / Loyalist terrorists post Good Friday and see a maximum 2 year sentence cap / let off by way of a letter as some of the murdering scrotes have over the years. I doubt that'll go down well with the Republicans though.
