jank wrote: » If you can't prove basic assertions you make then don't make them. Nobody as far as I can see has claimed that Israel are deliberately going out if their way yo kill children besides a few posters on the inter web. Has any journalist worth their salt or media outlet stated this?
I Heart Internet wrote: » There seems to be a school of thought that if you can't find someone on the internet who has said something before you (that ISIS and Hamas are effectively allies) then it can't be true. I am saying that ISIS and Hamas are allies, sharing many of the same motivations, desires, methodology and culture of jihad. I care not that no one in the online word has created a blog about it yet.
I Heart Internet wrote: » Why would I? I believe it to be true.
jank wrote: » Good point as he comes across as a complete bigot and anti Semite?
bumper234 wrote: » Ah this old doozy :rolleyes:
4.Clearly the Jews think of themselves as special beings who are privileged to the point of being above condemnation or even criticism.
end of the road wrote: » and what makes you believe that? because they are both muslim?
end of the road wrote: » withdraw the claim that isis and hamas are allies
davmol wrote: » So,the isralies had some of their citizens murdered and as usual have to kill 10-20 palestinians for every 1 israelie they lost.Scores of innocents will be murdered including a few littel girls already killed and Garth brooks gets teh headline of each newspaper. what kind of world is this that a plonker who sings sh1t songs can get the headlines while innocent people are murdered by the Israeli war machine?!1:mad:[/quote So you've only just moved to Ireland then?
blackwhite wrote: » I don't think its unreasonable to call this particular blog anti-semetic. Firstly, he titles it "the Jews" A number of points in his blog are nothing more than attacks on "the Jews," including "this old doozy" Criticising and/or condemning Israeli actions and policies is reasoned and sensible. Attacks on "the Jews" because of what Israel has done is quite accurately described as anti-semitism. Many Israel supporters try to silence criticism by claiming anti-semitism when none is present. That shouldn't stop genuine cases of racism against Jewish people from being pointed out.
darkpagandeath wrote: » What should people call "Jew's then ?" That's what they call themselves. I don’t see how that is offensive TBH. It’s like saying Catholics, or Muslims. The Jew's refer to themselves as a whole people regardless of place of birth they are all Jew's.
getzls wrote: » You should (........)World.
Iheartinternet wrote: hope the bombs and guns fall silent for good now and a lasting peace is found. But Hamas are radical, militant islamists with a vow to destroy the state of Israel. They are, though some won't admit it, a slightly more presentable stand of militant Islamism than ISIS. They share the same goals, methods and motivations. They are, in my opinion, allies. .
comongethappy wrote: » They aren't a hive mind..... (Unless you think they are).... Using a collective noun implies they all think the same, which is obviously not so. Saying "Israel" instead is better as it can refer to the state or the government.... Not tarring a whole people
blackwhite wrote: » When talking about Jews then calling them Jews is perfectly fine. Making sweeping generalisations about a religious grouping and/or a race is not fine. Claiming that the despicable actions of the Israeli state are somehow representative of a whole race of people who are spread around the world is offensive. It's kind of similar to someone trying to claim that the actions of Hamas or Al Queda is representative of all Muslims.That fact that you actually need this pointed out is a bit worrying TBH
bumper234 wrote: » Neither are Arabs yet we see comments in the thread that consistently refer to "The Arabs" when speaking of Hamas.
LorMal wrote: » RustyNut wrote: » They just want to wipe out all the people that live there. If they have an excuse to bomb them that's all well and good but the long game is the seige which will kill them eventually.[/ If they wanted to do that they could do it now. I do not think that is their position. They want to ghettoize the Palestinians - but they are not into complete genocide (at least most are not - though there are some real extremists on both sides) Yes they could do it today but the Zionists are far too clever for that, kill as many people as you can every chance you get,and claim self defence, and you can kill the rest by limiting their access to food and medicine.
RustyNut wrote: » They just want to wipe out all the people that live there. If they have an excuse to bomb them that's all well and good but the long game is the seige which will kill them eventually.[/ If they wanted to do that they could do it now. I do not think that is their position. They want to ghettoize the Palestinians - but they are not into complete genocide (at least most are not - though there are some real extremists on both sides)
comongethappy wrote: » Which is equally unacceptable.
I Heart Internet wrote: » Let me see......... No. It may shock you to learn that I may post my opinions without you approving of them.
WakeUp wrote: » it's your opinion then. and you can't back it up..of course you are free to post your opinion that doesn't make it true though . it may shock you to learn that if you're claiming something as fact like Hamas and Isis are allies you need to do better than offering an opinion. your opinion doesn't prove anything you made the statement the burden of proof is on you..can you back it up with more than an opinion it's a mighty claim with many an implication you are making? I don't think you can but I'll ask anyway .by the way don't suppose you're going to reply to the question I put to you twice , explaining the logic behind Israel blowing up houses to get the bad guys after they have been warned and most certainly left the building? so really it's just blowing up a house and killing civilians . have you any opinions on that..
I Heart Internet wrote: » It is my opinion that it is a fact. .
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has criticised a UN Security Council call for an immediate humanitarian truce in Gaza.
I Heart Internet wrote: » It is my opinion that it is a fact.
Nodin wrote: » But you can supply no evidence for it. Hence your change of tune to "it is my opinion". It's a weasely way of repeating something with no basis in fact.
I Heart Internet wrote: » It is my opinion that it is a fact. As for my opinion on Israel blowing up homes. It's very sad. I would love if it wasn't happening. I suspect, the Israeli Army's reason for notifying inhabitants beforehand is to reduce civilian causalities, while at the same time seeking to destroy buildings used by terrorists. I guess the intent is to demolish buildings used by terrorists in the hope of turning the bulk of Gaza against Hamas...I don't think it really works though, although it does reduce the number of civilian deaths (as opposed to an unannounced missile strike).
