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TUS Programme

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Hi Had a letter from Social Protection inviting me to participate on a TUS Programme. I have done an internet search and there seems to be very little "chatter" about it from people who have been on it, does anyone have any experience of it? I know how much it pays and a broad idea of what type of jobs etc, but would like some first hand experience from people in the know. Sounds a bit like a CE Scheme.

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Xenji

Pitatos wrote: »

Xenji wrote: »

The people we had in training were told their claim would be cut if they refused, had a family member in on it, never worked a day in his life and has been on welfare since he was old enough to get it, he is now in his 50's and this will be the first job he has had, they should target more people like him.[/QU

what kind of job your family member doing for city council...?

Cutting lawns, picking up litter, painting the council building, cutting hedges and groundskeeping.

Pitatos

Xenji wrote: »

The people we had in training were told their claim would be cut if they refused, had a family member in on it, never worked a day in his life and has been on welfare since he was old enough to get it, he is now in his 50's and this will be the first job he has had, they should target more people like him.[/QU

what kind of job your family member doing for city council...?

Pitatos

yes but what about they saying they will try to put the person in a job witch will suit the person ....but this is a joke

...they would be cleaning up graveyards, maintain green areas in parks and council estates, and would be cleaning streets around the town for rubbish and weeds etc.

Xenji

Pitatos wrote: »

so if someone going for the interview ,is already means that they have a job for the person and the person cant refuse this offer.

The people we had in training were told their claim would be cut if they refused, had a family member in on it, never worked a day in his life and has been on welfare since he was old enough to get it, he is now in his 50's and this will be the first job he has had, they should target more people like him.

Pitatos

so if someone going for the interview ,is already means that they have a job for the person and the person cant refuse this offer.

Xenji

jos22 wrote: »

know 2 people who had there interviews for the scheme.
the interview was about 10mins
they were told that its all outdoor work, they would be cleaning up graveyards, maintain green areas in parks and council estates, and would be cleaning streets around the town for rubbish and weeds etc

they would be working week on , week off akka one week would be 39 hours then 0 hours the next week.

they would be send to do a manual handing course, safepass courses.

Before you start the scheme you have to do 6 free courses with your nearest regional training centre, you only have 5 of these in the country, we had people coming from the likes of the Aran Islands to do the training as the scheme is mandatory if you are selected.

jos22

Pitatos wrote: »

anyone heard about geteway programme ,same as tus but for 22 months......?

know 2 people who had there interviews for the scheme.
the interview was about 10mins
they were told that its all outdoor work, they would be cleaning up graveyards, maintain green areas in parks and council estates, and would be cleaning streets around the town for rubbish and weeds etc

they would be working week on , week off akka one week would be 39 hours then 0 hours the next week. ( day of weather not being suitable to be outdoor, the hours would have to made up in the summer months)

they would be send to do a manual handing course, safepass courses.

Pitatos

anyone heard about geteway programme ,same as tus but for 22 months......?

jos22

badker wrote: »

Finishing Tus programme this friday and have to go to social welfare office Monday. Do you lose any days pay switching back to job seekers? and is there a waiting period.

Also is there anyway to get job seekers payment direct into bank account?

post back to say what was involved, and if they asked you any questions etc

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badker

Finishing Tus programme this friday and have to go to social welfare office Monday. Do you lose any days pay switching back to job seekers? and is there a waiting period.

Also is there anyway to get job seekers payment direct into bank account?

cwtch_88

Hi all im actually in my last week of my placement and found it fantastic. I was in the actual TUS based office on reception so my experience may differ from others who were in community host groups.

I was welcomed as part of their team from day 1, made to feel like a 'real' employee rather than a skivvy paid 20 euro a week to do the jobs no one else does. The support for once i leave has been fabulous, i applied for a grant here in office to do a training course so it has really been a stepping stone for my future.

My mother is also on a TUS placement in a different county branch, hasnt has quite the joyous 8 months (so far). She was placed in a community centred cafe for 19.5 hours a week and serves on average 3 customers a day so she actually feels like her brain cells are depleting at a rapid rate, but the work experience on paper is worth it to her.

This time last year i was hesitant to start one of these, actually i wanted to run a mile, but to anyone that has never had a job or is just stuck in a rut it is an amazing opportunity to get yourself out there and give you a boot up the backside into bigger and better things...i am proud to say i got booted hard

dodzy

Just a general notice to any people involved in the programme that there was an issue with payments into bank accounts for many public & private sector workers today. ALL Tús workers are affected. BOI have stated that there will be a delay, most likely until tomorrow AM, before payments are processed.

jos22

quinnd6 wrote: »

I live in a village in the country so I can't imagine myself even getting any web design experience on an Tus to be honest.
I suppose I'll have to put myself forward for it anyway or they'll stop my jobseeker's allowance.
The next year is looking like it's going to be a bad one for me.
Jobbridge website isn't even working now.

I think lot of the welfare based websites like Jobbridge are offline for the weekend due to some upgrade or something along those lines

quinnd6

I live in a village in the country so I can't imagine myself even getting any web design experience on an Tus to be honest.
I suppose I'll have to put myself forward for it anyway or they'll stop my jobseeker's allowance.
The next year is looking like it's going to be a bad one for me.
Jobbridge website isn't even working now.

jos22

quinnd6 wrote: »

I went for an interview on a jobbridge internship once and didn't get it.
It's frustrating can't get an internship either.

they keep telling people IT the way to go, but vast majority of IT jobs are for SW devs with few years experience, with pretty much no one wanting to give you the chance to get that experience.

you might get some basic web design work on TUS, with the rest of the time spent in a charity shop or doing basic office/admin work.

quinnd6

I went for an interview on a jobbridge internship once and didn't get it.
It's frustrating can't get an internship either.

MouseTail

quinnd6 wrote: »

I've a degree in Computer Applications , a certification in mysql and an associate developer certification in Java.
I still can't get any work because I don't have enough practical experience.

You have very employable skills, if industry experience is what has stopped you getting a job, why haven't you done jobbridge?

dodzy

quinnd6 wrote: »

I've a degree in Computer Applications , a certification in mysql and an associate developer certification in Java.
I still can't get any work because I don't have enough practical experience.
So I'm doing an online Java Professional course and nearly finished it and now I'm being forced to put myself forward for An Tus.
I don't want to do An Tus because it would be a waste of time for me and would be of zero relevance to what I want to do ie. working as a web developer or programmer and I've explained that to them before tons of times but Dept of Social Welfare say I have to put myself forward or they're cancelling my Job seekers allowance completely so I'd get nothing.
I had a plan to be finished that Java course as soon as I can and then I'd hopefully be able to get a job a lot easier but now it looks like I won't get time to finish the java course and be stuck for a year doing this An Tus rubbish.
I don't want to be stuck picking up papers and doing useless stuff that no-one else wants to do for 12 months, I think I'd be bored beyond belief. I just don't think I could stick at it at all. However I don't want to lose my jobseekers allowance either and I don't want to waste a whole year on this thing. I don't know what to do. It's a nightmare situation.
Someone else said even if you find a fulltime course that you'd like to do or some kind of internship that if you're on an tus that you're stuck in it.
Is that true?

go to the interview. Tell them what you have done and where you want to go. You won't be put picking up street rubbish. And as has been said many times, get a job and then you just walk away.

quinnd6

I've a degree in Computer Applications , a certification in mysql and an associate developer certification in Java.
I still can't get any work because I don't have enough practical experience.
So I'm doing an online Java Professional course and nearly finished it and now I'm being forced to put myself forward for An Tus.
I don't want to do An Tus because it would be a waste of time for me and would be of zero relevance to what I want to do ie. working as a web developer or programmer and I've explained that to them before tons of times but Dept of Social Welfare say I have to put myself forward or they're cancelling my Job seekers allowance completely so I'd get nothing.
I had a plan to be finished that Java course as soon as I can and then I'd hopefully be able to get a job a lot easier but now it looks like I won't get time to finish the java course and be stuck for a year doing this An Tus rubbish.
I don't want to be stuck picking up papers and doing useless stuff that no-one else wants to do for 12 months, I think I'd be bored beyond belief. I just don't think I could stick at it at all. However I don't want to lose my jobseekers allowance either and I don't want to waste a whole year on this thing. I don't know what to do. It's a nightmare situation.
Someone else said even if you find a fulltime course that you'd like to do or some kind of internship that if you're on an tus that you're stuck in it.
Is that true?

Tiat Young

dodzy wrote: »

Yep, it's 3 years. Unfortunately, the mechanism the Department uses for generating lists is sub-standard. Many organisations constantly receive duplicate applicants, ineligible applicants etc;

Best advice would be to send the letter back, ticking the "Not willing to participate", with supporting comment that you completed a Tús programme (insert date)

They finally answered and the lady told me to do the same thing. Thank you for replying.

dodzy

Tiat Young wrote: »

I am after getting a letter this morning to apply for a position on the Tus Programme. A bit confused seeing as I only finished my last Tus programme less then two years ago. I thought you cannot do Tus for a minimum of three years after doing one last? I keep trying to ring Social Welfare office but they are not answering.

Yep, it's 3 years. Unfortunately, the mechanism the Department uses for generating lists is sub-standard. Many organisations constantly receive duplicate applicants, ineligible applicants etc;

Best advice would be to send the letter back, ticking the "Not willing to participate", with supporting comment that you completed a Tús programme (insert date)

Tiat Young

I am after getting a letter this morning to apply for a position on the Tus Programme. A bit confused seeing as I only finished my last Tus programme less then two years ago. I thought you cannot do Tus for a minimum of three years after doing one last? I keep trying to ring Social Welfare office but they are not answering.

mp22

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055070569

Read and note the above carefully please.

mp22

mp22

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toadettee

I 100% feel left down by the system. I do not think I am entitled to anything but I am entitled to my own decisions. the only way to get out of a one year tus contract is to take up full time employment and get nothing from the social welfare. I cannot take this job on job bridge that is in my sector until jan 22nd 2015, of course it will be well gone by then. They do not tell you that at the start, they tell you it's a 12 month contract granted but they do not tell you there is no way out of it.

Treehorn2077

Sounds all well and good, but I would still have to convince the welfare and that as they say is another battle. I personally found that all those who handled my case had no clue what they were at. All they see is a number on a screen and that they don't want that number there.
Atempting to reason with them makes me want to punch myself in the face.

toadettee

dodzy wrote: »

Pretty good advice, that is.

Yes very good advice. I went in with a computer science background and although there was web work at the start, it fizzled out and I find myself making tea and answering calls most of my day, the job on jobbridge is an office job but one in a company in my sector where I may learn something but I cannot move to it. The system is very frustrating. But don't get caught in a one year tus contract you can't get out of.

dodzy

MouseTail wrote: »

Good luck with it Treehorn. TUS can be a great scheme, but the community sector wouldnt have the capacity to provide a decent software development placement. If that is the career you want, you will need to do your research and present your Case Officer with a fait accompli. Have a look at courses, and maybe visit the geeky side of Boards for advice on which course is best.

Pretty good advice, that is.

MouseTail

Treehorn2077 wrote: »

Cheers mousetail, I had missed skillsnet

Good luck with it Treehorn. TUS can be a great scheme, but the community sector wouldnt have the capacity to provide a decent software development placement. If that is the career you want, you will need to do your research and present your Case Officer with a fait accompli. Have a look at courses, and maybe visit the geeky side of Boards for advice on which course is best.