Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

Nope, meant something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_Bide7mlM

BTW - anyone found any peaceful Palestinians calling for peace and a ceasefire yet?

Are you serious just google palestinian peace protests, Im pretty sure there are a few on around Ireland aswell.

Sorry if the people in Gaza are a bit too scared to congregate in 1 place.

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

Can I ask a very basic question here... Are you actually in Israel and if so, have you had rockets flying at you?

I'm Irish, you can find me at Sandymount beach later today if it's still sunny in the evening:)
I've already said - I have family in Israel.

danniemcq wrote: »

And all rifles are the same and use the same ammo and hit the target in the same way and wounds are the same no matter what distance and drop of the bullet and the position of the target

They said a sniper hit the guy. Snipers use sniper rifles.

Nodin wrote: »

New York Times article earlier in the thread.

They didn't verify anything - they just quoted Palestinian sources on the ground.

NewCorkLad wrote: »

Are you serious just google palestinian peace protests, Im pretty sure there are a few on around Ireland aswell.

Sorry if the people in Gaza are a bit too scared to congregate in 1 place.

Well, I meant in Gaza. The people in Israel are also scared.

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

They didn't verify anything - they just quoted Palestinian sources on the ground.

They looked at the raw footage as explained above.

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

They said a sniper hit the guy. Snipers use sniper rifles.

Again

Please link us to what you believe a sniper rifle is.

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

Well, I meant in Gaza. The people in Israel are also scared.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2703894/Bizarre-trend-bomb-shelter-selfies-takes-Israel-siege-Tel-Aviv-residents-vow-smiling.html

Ya they look terrified alright, looks more like a party to me.

danniemcq

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

They said a sniper hit the guy. Snipers use sniper rifles.

yes yes they do

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sniper_rifles

Oh yeah all of these are the same I see, no difference in any of these.

same barrel length, same ammo, same range...

Nodin wrote: »

They looked at the raw footage as explained above.

And the Palestinians never faked such footage, using wonderful acting skills?
Please don't say "no" because It would be too easy to find the examples and I really have to get some work done before I go home today.
All there is to this story so far:
A video which some say is fake (looks fake to me).
Palestinian testimonies from the people that were there.

dav3

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

They didn't verify anything - they just quoted Palestinian sources on the ground.

Your desperation on here is quite apparent.

How long has your family lived in israel?

NewCorkLad wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2703894/Bizarre-trend-bomb-shelter-selfies-takes-Israel-siege-Tel-Aviv-residents-vow-smiling.html

Ya they look terrified alright, looks more like a party to me.

Knowledge of some basic human Psychology can help here.
This is a well known psychological defence mechanism in times of danger and fear - using humour to help you stay strong and get through the hard times.

wazky

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

Knowledge of some basic human Psychology can help here.
This is a well known psychological defence mechanism in times of danger and fear - using humour to help you stay strong and get through the hard times.

Where are the selfies of the Palestinians in their bomb shelters by the way?

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

And the (.......)there.

It's been verified. I've shown that far far worse has happened previously. In the midst of so many dead, theres nothing even vaguely implausible about the footage. The only reason theres such desperation to debunk the footage of this single individual, is because there's no footage of the other deaths, which become just numbers.

Did you know the IDF has veto on all footage shot in the OT that can be shown by Israeli news? They understand the power of the image, over the written word.

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

Knowledge of some basic human Psychology can help here.
This is a well known psychological defence mechanism in times of danger and fear - using humour to help you stay strong and get through the hard times.

And flying over the ex-mayor of new York to show tourists its safe, complaining about flights being cancelled...

fta93

Otacon wrote: »

Shelling 'kills 15 in Gaza shelter' - BBC News

There are two possibilities IMO.
1. The IDF knew they were aiming at a shelter for civilians, in which case, they intentionally murdered civilians.
2. The IDF didn't know what they were hitting. Therefore, they are negligent and guilty of slaughtering at least 15 people in this case.

Either option is worthy of scorn IMO.

+1

The silence from the apologists in response this post is deafening. No doubt someone will tell us that Palestine has murdered its own people in this case.

danniemcq wrote: »

yes yes they do

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sniper_rifles

Oh yeah all of these are the same I see, no difference in any of these.

same barrel length, same ammo, same range...

If I recall correctly the Israelis use only 2 or 3 types, all extremely powerful.

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

Knowledge of some basic human Psychology can help here.
This is a well known psychological defence mechanism in times of danger and fear - using humour to help you stay strong and get through the hard times.

Another well known psychological defence mechanism in times of danger and fear is crying

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/gaza-crisis-israeli-shells-kill-15-un-school-compound

Im sure if the people of Gaza weren afraid for their lives they would be out protesting for peace

wazky wrote: »

Where are the selfies of the Palestinians in their bomb shelters by the way?

Hamas didn't build any. They went for terror tunnels instead.

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

Hamas didn't build any. They went for terror tunnels instead.

All ideology aside, do you not feel a bit silly typing that?

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

If I recall correctly the Israelis use only 2 or 3 types, all extremely powerful.

So you have no clue what a sniper rifle is, what caliber it is or what it is called or looks like?

NewCorkLad wrote: »

Another well known psychological defence mechanism in times of danger and fear is crying

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/gaza-crisis-israeli-shells-kill-15-un-school-compound

Im sure if the people of Gaza weren afraid for their lives they would be out protesting for peace

Not all of Gaza is under attack. There are Palestinians in the west bank also, what about the Arab world?

I Heart Internet

fta93 wrote: »

+1

The silence from the apologists in response this post is deafening. No doubt someone will tell us that Palestine has murdered its own people in this case.

It would not have happened if Hamas were not foolishly and selfishly attacking Israelis at the expense of their people's lives.

wazky

bumper234 wrote: »

So you have no clue what a sniper rifle is, what caliber it is or what it is called or looks like?

Yet knows that it would rip your head off if shot by it, maybe it's time to put down the Xbox controller?

Nodin wrote: »

All ideology aside, do you not feel a bit silly typing that?

No. That's exactly what they did - spend billions donated by the EU & the US on arming themselves and on building tunnels.

Answer this Nodin - where is all the money?
As we all know - Gaza is a very small place which received countless billions over the years.
Where is all that money? What was it spent on?

Archie D Bunker wrote: »

Not all of Gaza is under attack. There are Palestinians in the west bank also, what about the Arab world?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/gaza-conflict-west-bank-impact

Peaceful protests one of which only turned violent when the Israeli army decided to get involved.

I Heart Internet wrote: »

It would not have happened if Hamas were not foolishly and selfishly attacking Israelis at the expense of their people's lives.

So it's the Palestinian kids fault that they are being murdered by the Israeli killing machine?

I Heart Internet wrote: »

It would not have happened if Hamas were not foolishly and selfishly attacking Israelis at the expense of their people's lives.

Some people just like to have all the possible facts from all the possible sources before deciding. It's called "not jumping the gun". Remember Jenin?