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Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

davmol

So,the isralies had some of their citizens murdered and as usual have to kill 10-20 palestinians for every 1 israelie they lost.Scores of innocents will be murdered including a few littel girls already killed and Garth brooks gets teh headline of each newspaper.

what kind of world is this that a plonker who sings sh1t songs can get the headlines while innocent people are murdered by the Israeli war machine?!1:mad:

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Red Nissan

niallo27 wrote: »

I noticed a lot of fake outrage. There is more to worry about on our own doorstep

We, in Ireland, will reap the whirlwind, that makes our two thousand year common time history, seem like the golden age.

Karl Stein

niallo27 wrote: »

Let them blow the **** out of each other as long as it doesn't affect me

"According to an assessment by aid workers on ground at least 107,000 children need psycho-social support for the trauma they are experiencing such as death, injury or loss of their homes," Mr Laerke said.

rte.ie/news

'Niallo27' is unharmed so everything is alright.

SYLT

niallo27 wrote: »

Let them blow the **** out of each other as long as it doesn't affect me I dont really care. I have enough to worry about without some people thousands of miles away I will never meet or care about.

What does a guy who says such ignorant stuff like this actually have to worry about? How many weetabix they are going to have for breakfast? What socks to wear tomorrow?

You sound like a spoiled little girl.

end of the road

niallo27 wrote: »

I noticed a lot of fake outrage. There is more to worry about on our own doorstep

yeah, people aren't entitled to be angry at the slaughter of civilians, it must be "fake outrage" or "outrage for the sake of it"

Johro

Red Nissan wrote: »

We, in Ireland, will reap the whirlwind, that makes our two thousand year common time history, seem like the golden age.

Are you drunk?

Johro

niallo27 wrote: »

I noticed a lot of fake outrage. There is more to worry about on our own doorstep

I don't think so. Nothing that compares anyway.

CrazyRabbit

1700+ posts and people still arguing over who is to blame, who started this and who is right/wrong. Sigh.

Both sides are to blame.
Both sides allowed it to escalate to the current state.
Both sides are wrong.
Both sides are murderers, religious nuts & are guilty of dehumanising their enemy.

The current issue is that Israel is using grossly excessive force and has been proven to be targeting unarmed civilians. We should expect more from a nation that calls itself civilised and peace loving.

Hamas or individual terrorists firing ineffective rockets (also at civilians) does not justify a retaliation against an entire population and it certainly doesn't justify deliberately blowing up children.

That is why people are angry with Israel. Israel does have the right to defend itself, but not by killing civilians/children.
They also could choose to engage in genuine attempts at peaceful solutions and they could choose to stop expanding into Palastinian areas. But they don't.

The bigger issue is that the international community is allowing this. A few speeches expressing 'concern' is a cop out. The collective clout of all other countries could force a peaceful and permanent solution to this within weeks, but they won't.

obplayer

Red Nissan wrote: »

We, in Ireland, will reap the whirlwind, that makes our two thousand year common time history, seem like the golden age.

I promised myself I would not post in this thread again but you have got the better of me. What are you on about? First you talk about wanting the genocide of Palestine and then you come out with this semi-mystical crap. I think perhaps you need some sleep.

ekimiam

Red Nissan wrote: »

Yes, I'd be with Sigourney Weaver and Nuke The Planet from orbit.

love it

WakeUp

Red Nissan wrote: »

I said it earlier or in another thread, whilst we created Israel, we being the 'West' we have placed a religious knighthood in a strategic position, in a five thousand year old war.

Bush talked to god, but we know he does not believe in same.

It's crazy how people can be manipulated without arms and force of arms, and unimaginable with both.

Tonight, whilst I don't like the jews, they gave me an unwanted religions, which gave the world an even more unwanted Islam, I have to side, and I'm for the genocide of Palestine.

But are you really in favour of the genocide of Palestine or anyone for the matter?? are you serious when you say that? some of the mind sets on display from the various IDF apologists hidden and overt are a bit warped to say the least. DNA based weapons and now outright genocide?? Seriously?..

Johro

^ ^ I wouldn't, if I were you. I mean, look at that post. It's a nonsense post. One of many from the same poster.
Waste of time arguing with that.

Esel

Red Nissan wrote: »

I said it earlier or in another thread, whilst we created Israel, we being the 'West' we have placed a religious knighthood in a strategic position, in a five thousand year old war.

Bush talked to god, but we know he does not believe in same.

It's crazy how people can be manipulated without arms and force of arms, and unimaginable with both.

Tonight, whilst I don't like the jews, they gave me an unwanted religions, which gave the world an even more unwanted Islam, I have to side, and I'm for the genocide of Palestine.

Did you really mean to come out with that post?

Bridge, and totally obvious, tbh...

WakeUp

Johro wrote: »

^ ^ I wouldn't, if I were you. I mean, look at that post. It's a nonsense post. One of many from the same poster.
Waste of time arguing with that.

You're probably right though things like that shouldn't really go unchallenged. talk of DNA weapons ,over on another thread that was locked bombing the Palestinians out of existence, now this nukes and genocide against them. seems some of them have no problem openly and tacitly maybe secretly hoping for such a thing to happen. It isn't right as any reasonable person would assume. perhaps certain people would like to see the Palestinians blown out of existence thankfully though warped mind sets like that I would hope are few and far between.

Ruu

Red Nissan banned for a while so won't be responding.

Mod.

WakeUp

IDF using deadly flechette shells in Gaza. another possible warcrime on the part of the IDF. maybe. they really are starting to stack up now hope someone is keeping score I'm sure they are ,though it's probably the fault of Hamas as per usual as to why these shells are being used on civilian populations . a doctor in the link explains the injuries being inflicted upon civilian population. bombing the Palestinians out of existence - these would certainly help for those of that persuasion.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/israelgaza-conflict-deadly-flechette-shells-used-by-israeli-military-in-gaza-30452541.html

Arthur Beesley

WakeUp wrote: »

IDF using deadly flechette shells in Gaza. another possible warcrime on the part of the IDF. maybe. they really are starting to stack up now hope someone is keeping score I'm sure they are ,though it's probably the fault of Hamas as per usual as to why these shells are being used on civilian populations . a doctor in the link explains the injuries being inflicted upon civilian population. bombing the Palestinians out of existence - these would certainly help for those of that persuasion.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/israelgaza-conflict-deadly-flechette-shells-used-by-israeli-military-in-gaza-30452541.html

Possible...maybe....thanks for the input.

hju6

IDF's Gaza assault is to control Palestinian gas, avert Israeli energy crisis

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jul/09/israel-war-gaza-palestine-natural-gas-energy-crisis

speedboatchase

hju6 wrote: »

IDF's Gaza assault is to control Palestinian gas, avert Israeli energy crisis

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jul/09/israel-war-gaza-palestine-natural-gas-energy-crisis

Yeah, nothing to do with those pesky rockets.

hju6

WakeUp wrote: »

IDF using deadly flechette shells in Gaza. another possible warcrime on the part of the IDF. maybe. they really are starting to stack up now hope someone is keeping score I'm sure they are ,though it's probably the fault of Hamas as per usual as to why these shells are being used on civilian populations . a doctor in the link explains the injuries being inflicted upon civilian population. bombing the Palestinians out of existence - these would certainly help for those of that persuasion.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/israelgaza-conflict-deadly-flechette-shells-used-by-israeli-military-in-gaza-30452541.html

Reported here aswell

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-israeli-military-using-flechette-rounds-in-gaza-strip-9617480.html

And here

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/israel-using-flechette-shells-in-gaza-1.1872646

And here

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-army-used-flechettes-against-gaza-civilians-20090127

hju6

One child killed per hour in Gaza for the past two days

http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/ocha_opt_sitrep_23_07_2014.pdf

8 shelters cannot be reached due to fighting

A request for a humanitarian pause has been rejected by the Israelis

smurgen

hju6 wrote: »

Reported here aswell

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-israeli-military-using-flechette-rounds-in-gaza-strip-9617480.html

And here

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/israel-using-flechette-shells-in-gaza-1.1872646

And here

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-army-used-flechettes-against-gaza-civilians-20090127

A blatant war crime by Israeli defence force scum. They're terrorists.I cannot see any difference between the IDF and any generic terrorist group.

smoking_kills

smurgen wrote: »

A blatant war crime by Israeli defence force scum. They're terrorists.I cannot see any difference between the IDF and any generic terrorist group.

Like Hamas. Speaking of blatent war crimes hamas targetted civilians as well you know, also firing their rockets from populated areas is a war crime, as is hiding in populated areas.

Both sides are guilty of war crimes.

suicide_circus

Can we remove the Garth Brooks reference from the title, it's trite and more than a little offensive given the scale of the bloodshed.

mickstupp

Disturbing infographic from the Washington Post.

EDIT: Which I've just now realised is effectively old news.

mad muffin

Where is your reports of the FAA and EASA halting flight travel to Tel Aviv because Hamas is now firing rockets at airplanes and at the airport?

Of course your not. It doesn't gel with your, Israel are murdering terrorists circle jerk. :rolleyes:

You guys are something else. Frothing at the mouth for some Israeli blood. Crying out, not enough Israelis are dying.

Ridicules.

Arthur Beesley

suicide_circus wrote: »

Can we remove the Garth Brooks reference from the title, it's trite and more than a little offensive given the scale of the bloodshed.

Plus it is offensive to Garth Brooks.

WakeUp

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

Possible...maybe....thanks for the input.

No problem. I'm full of input so I am plenty more where that came from I shall be sticking around watch this space .the article did mention the words "international" and "law" and I know from a previous comment you made you've a hard time making sense of those words in your head your single sentenced retort is not surprising in the least. if you have a few mins why don't you have a look at this link. an interview with an activist from an Israeli human rights group her thoughts on some of what's happening in Gaza. People like her and the people she works with are really decent outstanding human beings we need more people like this is the world. Fair warning the link does contain the words international law I know the concept of such a thing is a bit alien to you so just sayin.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12141

Arthur Beesley

WakeUp wrote: »

No problem. I'm full of input so I am plenty more where that came from I shall be sticking around watch this space .the article did mention the words "international" and "law" and I know from a previous comment you made you've a hard time making sense of those words in your head your single sentenced retort is not surprising in the least. if you have a few mins why don't you have a look at this link. an interview with an activist from an Israeli human rights group her thoughts on some of what's happening in Gaza. People like her and the people she works with are really decent outstanding human beings we need more people like this is the world. Fair warning the link does contain the words international law I know the concept of such a thing is a bit alien to you so just sayin.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12141

And it started with possibly and maybe. If you believe they were war crimes, say so, why say possibly and maybe? Show some conviction.

WakeUp

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

And it started with possibly and maybe. If you believe they were war crimes, say so, why say possibly and maybe? Show some conviction.

Fair enough. If you're asking my opinion then I would say war crime. the reason I said maybe was because of you know, international law, that thing you claim doesn't exist - there may be some ambiguity as to the circumstance involved and as I'm not on the ground and the full facts still to be verified which I'm sure they will be , for now, maybe seemed fair enough. though I think it's a warcrime. next time I ask you a question I hope you can do me the courtesy and give me a straight answer, hard and all as that might be for you . sh1t even leaving Hamas out of a reply would be a start.

bumper234

mad muffin wrote: »

Where is your reports of the FAA and EASA halting flight travel to Tel Aviv because Hamas is now firing rockets at airplanes and at the airport?

Of course your not. It doesn't gel with your, Israel are murdering terrorists circle jerk. :rolleyes:

You guys are something else. Frothing at the mouth for some Israeli blood. Crying out, not enough Israelis are dying.

Ridicules.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/22/travel/israel-flights-suspended/index.html

US, European airlines suspend flights to Israel