yortem wrote: » unrwa.org//newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools
Archie D Bunker wrote: » If Israel is afraid of public opinion - why on earth would they attack hospitals or schools unless they have a justifiable reason?
If they are not afraid of public opinion - why on earth would they bother with leaflets and phone calls and warnings?
Nodin wrote: » Yep. Your point?
Archie D Bunker wrote: » True. I guess Hamas should have thought about that before they started firing rockets at Israel.
end of the road wrote: » if a military from another country was slaughtering my friends family and fellow citizens on a daily basis i would eventually get to the stage where i would fight back
end of the road wrote: » yes it is
DamagedTrax wrote: » no they arent afraid of public opinion. they are bombing indiscriminately and at will. because their only ally in the world is starting to turn on them. there are even numbers of their own people starting to turn on them. while the killing continues, they need to come across as a nice little quiet country, giving warnings to the people of palestine before they 'defend' themselves by blowing muslim children to smithereens. Israel is a country who's elite classes have been infiltrated by some of the most disgusting excuses for human beings ever witnessed on this earth and any jewish person that supports them needs to take a long hard look at themselves and at their own people's history and start recognising a pattern.
yortem wrote: » No point. you all blind and have no idea what we are dealing with..
Archie D Bunker wrote: » That's a very simplistic approach. Would more dead Israelis make you feel better about the whole thing? The equation is incredibly simple: no rockets = no IDF attacks. Why doesn't Hamas just try this approach once? Just once? Have a week without firing rockets.
Archie D Bunker wrote: » Israel didn't break the cease fire. The Palestinians did.
Archie D Bunker wrote: » Do you really not see how you contradict yourself?
end of the road wrote: » and i guess israel should have thought about people firing rockets before deciding they didn't have enough land and decided to start stealing more land and wiping out the natives
Archie D Bunker wrote: » Israel did that and left Gaza, and all it got in return was many many more rockets and attacks. You don't consider that an effort? What have the Palestinians EVER DO for peace?
end of the road wrote: » what part of israel broke the seasefire do you not understand?
Nodin wrote: » An oppressed people. If you want to be treated like a normal state, get out of Arab East Jerusalem, the Golan and the West Bank, and drop the blockade on Gaza.
Archie D Bunker wrote: » I think you are confusing the Israelis with the American cowboys. I've already asked for examples of those obnoxious Israeli land thefts from recent years, and so far no one has risen to the challenge. All I'm shown is evidence of natural expansion of settlements due to natural birth and threats by the Israeli government that never seem to be fulfilled. Come on - where are all these new settlements? Do you know their names?
DamagedTrax wrote: » actually i purposefully didnt, i just chose to leave out that Israel's actions themselves are a contradiction as it is common knowledge. i hope that resolves my post for you.
Archie D Bunker wrote: » I truly wish you were the Palestinian partner Israel deals with in peace negotiations. Unfortunately as far as I know, Hamas still also want Tel-Aviv, Haifa, West Jerusalem, Jaffa, etc.I haven't seen any correction to their charter, and haven't seen any Hamas leader stating otherwise (ie - that they are done with wanting to kick all the jews in Israel into the ocean).
end of the road wrote: » left gaza and started a blockade straight away, yeah, thats israel making an effort all right
Archie D Bunker wrote: » At least they did something. Hamas is not even requested to DO anything - they are requested to NOT DO anything, but even that non-effort is beyond them. And you didn't answer my question - what have the Palestinians ever done to achieve peace?
Nodin wrote: » Settlements have been expanding for years, with incentives offered to move to colonys in the West Bank.http://www.btselem.org/settlements/migrationhttp://www.btselem.org/planning_and_building/settlement_planning_policy
Archie D Bunker wrote: » I read the links, still don't see any land grabs mentioned.
Archie D Bunker wrote: » You basically didn't say anything, so no it didn't.
Nodin wrote: » More clueless guff. Tell me, why is it Hamas fault that Israel is expanding its colonys in Arab East Jerusalem and the West Bank?
Nodin wrote: » They're the ones being built on. You selectively target Hamas and ignore Israels aggression elsewhere.
Archie D Bunker wrote: » Expansion of existing settlements is natural, unless you expect people there to stop having babies. Pl?
Nodin wrote: » Being obtuse are we? Any house built in the occupied territories is a "land grab" because that land its built on is not within the recognised Israeli state.
Archie D Bunker wrote: » Recognized by who?
