mormank wrote: » When we signed Suarez we didn't have another 20-30 goal a season striker on the books either like we do now. We didn't have a 19 year old Sterling looking like he has the world at his feet. No Coutinho, their counterparts at the time I believe were Downing, Carroll and Joe Cole in the team lineup. My point is that while obviously Suarez will be a massive loss we are still in a much better position now imo than the day we signed him. Two years after we signed him we almost won the title so who knows where we might be in another two starting from a better position than Jan 2011
delaney001 wrote: » Did you genuinely believe suarez had the potential to be the best striker in the world when he signed? I can honestly say I never would have predicted the freak out in form he showed over the next 2 seasons.
5live wrote: » No, you definitely post on here alright;)
OwaynOTT wrote: » Is anyone else overwhelmed by our signings so far?
Knex. wrote: » Overwhelmed? I'd be surprised!
Knex. wrote: » I only started posting here around the time Suarez signed. I think I remember people saying that Rebel had been raving about him for ages, and was delighted when he signed. This happen, or am I making it all up?
Let me ask you a question, you, you never really remember the beginning of a dream do you? You always wind up right in the middle of what's going on.
OwaynOTT wrote: » Sure Reus like!
tok9 wrote: » Think about it Knex.. how did you get here!?
taidghbaby wrote: » We had Torres who was then sold (Suarez was bought to play alongside Torres)! We didn't have Carroll at that stage and Downing was signed the following summer! But yes we had just had "that" summer transfer window and Hodgson had just left, so we are in an immeasurably better place now than we were the day Suarez signed!
K-9 wrote: » The glass is half full, excellent post. As football fans we tend to want things now and forget the bigger picture. Jesus when you put it that way, Carroll, Downing, Adam and Cole for what we have now is a big upgrade. Testament to Rodgers and the committee and owners. It also shows FSG have largely delivered on what they promised, after getting a bit carried away the first Summer! The other thing is we all knew Suarez was away next Summer at the latest, all the club can do is use the money to get badly needed additions to the squad (let's face it, we over achieved last season and things went our way) and leave us ready to try and cement top 4, but more importantly leave us in good stead for the future. The club has a stadium to redevelop which will affect finances for the foreseeable future, Chelsea and Spurs have to do that too but United, City and Arsenal don't. We also have an excellent manager who seems to be able to get the best out of players, some who many gave up on like Henderson, Sterling, Cissokho and Flanagan, and has used the limited resources he had brilliantly, showing adaptability and learning from mistakes. Remember Kyriakos mentioned last night (Cult hero he was), we've come a long way since H&G and the early mistakes of FSG.
OwaynOTT wrote: » I beginning to doubt it all, to be honest. What with the possibility of us all being rarnes1 and now you doubting your very existence.
Knex. wrote: » Cheers for that, Kingdom. You've certainly helped make the signing that bit more exciting for me, anyway.
Tusky wrote: » That's irrelevant. We've lost one of the best in the world - we should replace him with an excellent player who has the potential to go on to be one of the best. Our targets/signings do not fit into that category so far. And Sturridge has never scored 30 in a season. It was always clear he had enormous potential.
Kingdom wrote: » Absolutely Suarez had the potential to be top 5 in the World, his finishing was somewhat arguable, but unlike Kezman, Afonso Alves and their ilk (great Eridivisie goalscorers) Suarez play, skill and desire was very obvious. What worries me, or disappoints me slightly, is that the high bracket players that have moved to England this season, or those that could be moving this season, have never even remotely been linked to Liverpool. In a simple world City were the only team to finish ahead of Liverpool, and realistically thely're close to the finished product. As a club choice, given the season LFC have had, Champions League to come, and with a squad that can only get better, LFC should be an enticing proposition. But either location or finances aren't right, because I suppose United getting Herrara and looking serious contenders for Vidal as well as a couple of defenders despite no CL is annoying, and that probably is fuelling my angst more than anything. Plus Arsenal getting Ozil, Kheidara and Sanchez. When you see so many players being touted, and realistically we're as good as anyone outside the money 8 (Madrid, Barca, Bayern, City, Chelsea, PSG, Monaco ,United) and there being only so many positions available, it would be nice to think of LFC being genuinely in for a genuinely world class player such as those mentioned. Ah well, I guess. Reus isn't going to happen
mormank wrote: » Ya ok, you caught me on some semantics. I haven't slept in two days, sue me! But you very much get the thrust of my post.
Strongbow10 wrote: » The cold hard reality of it, is that Liverpool FC are not a huge draw anymore for the top European talent. Once established as a consistent Champions league force then we will have a say in taking established/top tier in demand younger talent to our club. The best players usually have more than one club interested. And we will never win a bidding war when it comes to wages. We have been out of the Champions League for 5 years, this season we have the chance to try and consolidate our return rather than allow it be a once off achievement ala Spurs. Even with the promise of regular champions league football, Liverpool (like Man Utd) will be victims of their own geography. Man Utd have been knocked back alot of times also when it comes to signing established stars (Ronaldinho and Arjen Robben being 2 notable cases). Its hard to take yes, but continental players do prefer London for various reasons. Easy access to a wider choice of flight destinations, more shopping for the wife, better activities to be had in London during downtime etc... Sure you can slate a player for "choosing London because of the wife", but where you have 2 clubs offering pretty much the same as Liverpool and United can offer historically (champions league football, chance of trophies) then these lifestyle benefits of living in the capital are understandable lures.
Gandalph wrote: » Simple but effective
taidghbaby wrote: » Ah now I wasn't being pedantic! Just helping you out before someone else came in and made a song and a dance about it! Also I would prefer if you would refrain from "thrusting" me with your "post" in future!
brevity wrote: » So... Marcovic - provides the trickery, speed and assists/chance creation that we would associate with Suarez. Lallana - provides the work rate as well as some assists and goals. Remy/Bony - goals & general forward play. Bony also providing decent defensive capabilities. Seems the club have an idea of how to replace him...it only took 3/4 players
Gandalph wrote: » Seen some tripe on an American site that Pool are offering $75mil for Reus. "However the Metro states that Liverpool are ‘baffled’ by the suggestion they are chasing Reus. Take this rumor with a pinch of salt." Why would they even publish that then haha? Trying to get as many clicks on their page as possible I presume.
