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Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

davmol

So,the isralies had some of their citizens murdered and as usual have to kill 10-20 palestinians for every 1 israelie they lost.Scores of innocents will be murdered including a few littel girls already killed and Garth brooks gets teh headline of each newspaper.

what kind of world is this that a plonker who sings sh1t songs can get the headlines while innocent people are murdered by the Israeli war machine?!1:mad:

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Manic Moran

dj jarvis wrote: »

i would beg to differ , and so does the body count 146 as we speak , nearly 40 kids 60 women , the rest men

lots of minimization in those numbers

Perhaps you need to look over the border to some place like Syria to have a frame of reference as to what might happen were a military not to try to reduce casualties.

One of the interesting psychological effects of modern war in the West is that people have utterly lost their sense of perspective as to just how much of a meatgrinder a real war is, as we've not had one a no-restraint one in a while. This applies both in terms of national casualties (20 Americans killed in a day is considered a "national disaster, what are we doing in Afghanistan" sort of thing), and third party casualties, such as Palestine.

dj jarvis

greenflash wrote: »

Hamas fire their (admittedly sh1t) rockets from schools, hospitals and residential apartment blocks, knowing that Israel will track the launch sites and return fire. Rather than protecting their fellow Palestinians or evacuating the areas, Hamas wait for the Israeli strikes with cameras at the ready, so they can put pictures of dying babies on the internet as soon as possible. By all means feel sorry for the average Palestian family living through this but don't let there be any doubt that Hamas are wilfully putting their own into the firing line to exploit the media potential.

this i do , this i do

i care not for the politics of this sad cluster **** , im just not into a bigger force with little damage or casualty inflicted , taking inappropriate actions against a largely un armed population , enclosed in a ghetto

there is no justification for the response

as for your dying babies remark , how quick do you think the Israeli / us media would have the death of 1 Israeli child as the head line ? but 40 Palestinian kids just wont get the same air time

why is that

end of the road

mad muffin wrote: »

It's war.

a one sided war to take more territory for the jewish state

mad muffin wrote: »

War is ugly. Innocent people die.

or more like it, innocent people are deliberately murdered.

mad muffin wrote: »

The difference is Israel is trying to minimise their casualties.

mad muffin wrote: »

Hamas is banking on Palestinians casualties.

dj jarvis

mad muffin wrote: »

It's war. War is ugly. Innocent people die. The difference is Israel is trying to minimise their casualties. Hamas is banking on Palestinians casualties.

i would beg to differ , and so does the body count 146 as we speak , nearly 40 kids 60 women , the rest men

lots of minimization in those numbers

greenflash

dj jarvis wrote: »

in the last 6 days they have killed 34 children , and as we know , children are the biggest threat to Israel and Israels security

no justification , none at all

Hamas fire their (admittedly sh1t) rockets from schools, hospitals and residential apartment blocks, knowing that Israel will track the launch sites and return fire. Rather than protecting their fellow Palestinians or evacuating the areas, Hamas wait for the Israeli strikes with cameras at the ready, so they can put pictures of dying babies on the internet as soon as possible. By all means feel sorry for the average Palestian family living through this but don't let there be any doubt that Hamas are wilfully putting their own into the firing line to exploit the media potential.

steddyeddy

mad muffin wrote: »

It's war. War is ugly. Innocent people die. The difference is Israel is trying to minimise their casualties. Hamas is banking on Palestinians casualties.

So I take it they don't use explosives?

end of the road

mad muffin wrote: »

Why don't you go plant another bomb in a bin

ah for feck sake, you are ridiculous now

mad muffin wrote: »

What part of Hamas hiding amongst the population is do you not understand?

what part of israel slaughtering and using the holicost and jewdaeism as a way to emotionaly blackmail the world into not criticising their actions and as an excuse for such actions do you not understand?

mad muffin

dj jarvis wrote: »

in my earlier posts on this thread - you should try reading it .

i will say it again - i do not condone the actions of Hamas , i do not condone the actions of Israel . i never condone murder of non combatants , women and children

hope that clears up any ambiguity

It's war. War is ugly. Innocent people die. The difference is Israel is trying to minimise their casualties. Hamas is banking on Palestinians casualties.

dj jarvis

mad muffin wrote: »

Why don't you go plant another bomb in a bin

What part of Hamas hiding amongst the population is do you not understand? Where is your condemnation for that?

in my earlier posts on this thread - you should try reading it .

i will say it again - i do not condone the actions of Hamas , i do not condone the actions of Israel . i never condone murder of non combatants , women and children

hope that clears up any ambiguity

mad muffin

end of the road wrote: »

fixed

Why don't you go plant another bomb in a bin

dj jarvis wrote: »

bit unfair

i am far from rent a crowd and have sympathy for the Palestinians
i think you underestimate the amount of "normal" people who find how the Israelis act abhorrent

in the last 6 days they have killed 34 children , and as we know , children are the biggest threat to Israel and Israels security

no justification , none at all

What part of Hamas hiding amongst the population is do you not understand? Where is your condemnation for that?

dj jarvis

The Aussie wrote: »

Shhh don't state the obvious, the Rent-A-Crowd don't like it... LOL

bit unfair

i am far from rent a crowd and have sympathy for the Palestinians
i think you underestimate the amount of "normal" people who find how the Israelis act abhorrent

in the last 6 days they have killed 34 children , and as we know , children are the biggest threat to Israel and Israels security

no justification , none at all

end of the road

mad muffin wrote: »

Sure a bunch of terrorist hiding amongst civilians for maximum collateral damage to further their own cause, and a peoples who have vowed to take as much territory to have a fully jewish state by clenzing the arab population, and emotionaly blackmail the world by using jewdaeism and the holicost to excuse their actions is the same thing.

fixed

The Aussie

mad muffin wrote: »

Sure a bunch of terrorist hiding amongst civilians for maximum collateral damage to further their own cause, and a peoples who have vowed to never be victims again is the same thing.

Shhh don't state the obvious, the Rent-A-Crowd don't like it... LOL

mad muffin

end of the road wrote: »

the israelies are cowards. Hiding behind the hollicost to excuse their acts of terror and slaughter

Sure a bunch of terrorist hiding amongst civilians for maximum collateral damage to further their own cause, and a peoples who have vowed to never be victims again is the same thing.

end of the road

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Then why does the IDF spend millions and millions on smart bombs and weapons that can target just these rocket launchers.

they don't, they use some the odd time.

Captain Chaos wrote: »

They could just drop dumb bombs all over the place for much cheaper and less effort but they don't.

but they do, they use dumb bombs and cluster bombs

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Hamas set up these launchers in sites with many civilians close by with the intent of making the IDF look bad by targeting them.

probably, but they don't need to make the IDF look bad as the IDF do that all by themselves by deliberately slaughtering civilians for fun.

end of the road

mad muffin wrote: »

Hamas are cowards. Hiding amongst the very people they claim to defend.

the israelies are cowards. Hiding behind the hollicost to excuse their acts of terror and slaughter

The Aussie

So do you normally claim people with different views or pick you up on wrong generalisations are Trolling and calling them Children?

Says more about you than me to be honest.

awaits the usual thank you squad.... LOL

EDIT: And they turned up ROFLMAO

woodoo

The Aussie wrote: »

Maybe Zimbabwe would be better, with the genocide of Whites, not high profile enough for you maybe???

White people are not trendy enough to support.

Maybe you could stop trolling and stick to the subject at hand. I was referring to Israel. If you want to talk about South Africa, Zimbabwe or Travellers go start a thread on it. If my memory serves me correctly you are not a young man so stop behaving like a child.

The Aussie

woodoo wrote: »

I don't know why you even mention South Africa its not the same issue at all. The Blacks in South Africa were never the oppressor stealing land. The Israeli settlers most certainly are.

Maybe Zimbabwe would be better, with the genocide of Whites, not high profile enough for you maybe???

White people are not trendy enough to support.

The Aussie

woodoo wrote: »

Your crazy interpretation of what i said is whats stupid.

Are you trying to defend a generalised statement? I love how you think Violence against one side is valid, while frothing at the mouth at violence against the other side, odd to say the least...

woodoo

The Aussie wrote: »

Ok, i see...

Illegal Settlements are not the preserve of Isreali Settlers, the comment of "all adults in Illegal Settlements are fair game" is just out and out stupid, there are Illegal Settlers in Ireland who make their home on sides of Roads, are they "Fair Game"...

If he said "all adult Isreali Settlers in disputed territory are fair game" it would only be half as stupid thing to say

Your crazy interpretation of what i said is whats stupid.

woodoo

The Aussie wrote: »

But they were in illegal camp up to a few years ago (what I said), making what I said valid and making Woodoo's comment of

A wee bit on the silly side (I would use stronger terms but I know how Report happy some are)

I fail to see what you don't understand, if you need me to draw you pictures I can, if you still don't understand that is...

I don't know why you even mention South Africa its not the same issue at all. The Blacks in South Africa were never the oppressor stealing land. The Israeli settlers most certainly are.

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biko wrote: »

Tbh, I don't know what about the Israel - Palestinian conflict get people's attention so much.
It's one of the least deadly current conflicts but gets most traction by the lefties.

Lefties tend to choose easy conflicts where the newspapers can give them a clear enemy. African or Asian conflicts are too complex for the general leftie to get upset about. When was the last time a leftie started a thread anywhere on boards about Nigeria, Sudan or Burma?

"Choose your battles" indeed...

Haha, yeah, you never hear any right wing ranting about it at all do you?

The cultural and religious significance of the actual location of the conflict has a lot to do with it. The very blatant support (ideological and financial) of Israel's tactics by the US is pretty unusual too- no doubt they're involved in many shady dealings around the world but they have the decency to at least keep them shady. The constant disparity between the rates of casualties and the amount of civilians and children killed by, and subsequently shrugged off by, Israel and many of its supporters is also an important factor.

Like you say, there are a lot of complex conflicts in regions where the media has far less means or inclination to cover them, but what, you have to pass an African-politics competency test before you're allowed to express the opinion that killing ten, twenty or a hundred Palestinians for every Israeli is not right? You shouldn't boil an egg unless you can make a soufflé? People's opinions on it have a lot more variety than you're letting on too, not everyone who disagrees with Israel's handling of the situation disagrees with their right to exist, and I would say MOST people who disagree with Israel also disagree with Hamas' tactics.

And by the way, a lot of us are right-handed :pac:

The Aussie

steddyeddy wrote: »

What are you talking about? Can we get back to Israel?

Are you not the one who wanted to drag it down this path with this "pearl" in the first place...

steddyeddy wrote: »

The Aussie we're not children or stupid people please feel free to use an intelligent argument instead of words like LOL, ROFL or LMAO.

Now your getting precious, ah yes I see now :rolleyes:

Rhys Essien

It appears that new weapons are being tested.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/13/371162/israel-drops-cancerinducing-bombs-on-gaza/

steddyeddy

The Aussie wrote: »

That's just what was there, very apt though, thought the part about being in a Chat Room with a Thesaurus in hand was funny, might be to close to the bone though, most pseudo intellectuals are a bit precious for that stuff though...

What are you talking about? Can we get back to Israel?

The Aussie

That's just what was there, very apt though, thought the part about being in a Chat Room with a Thesaurus in hand was funny, might be to close to the bone though, most pseudo intellectuals are a bit precious for that stuff though...

steddyeddy

The Aussie wrote: »

Funny that you have to fit it in, this is what I think when I read it...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pseudo-intellectual

LOL.

Cogent argument doesn't equate to calling a person stupid. ROFL, LOL LMAO ect.

The Aussie

steddyeddy wrote: »

I have fit a cogent argument into all my replies.

Funny that you have to fit it in, this is what I think when I read it...

pseudo-intellectual

1. One who attempts to flex intellect that does not exist within his or her own mind.

2. Can probably be found with a thesaurus in hand, while in a chat room, looking up new insults that are synonymous with "stupid" in order to boost his or her own undeserved ego.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pseudo-intellectual

LOL.

steddyeddy

The Aussie wrote: »

I figured seemingly that you seemed to have a "word for the Day" that I was dealing with the usual...

Do you think you can fit Cogent Argument into any more replies...

I have fit a cogent argument into all my replies.