I Heart Internet wrote: » Respective military strength has nothing to do with it. Intent has everything to do with it. Hamas wish to kill Israelis - any Israelis...adults, children, palistinian Israelis, Jews, visiting tourists with every rocket. The fact that the rockets are aimless is just good fortune. Israel wishes to kill Hamas fighters and disable rocket launch sites and equipment with every missile. It doesn't wish to kill innocent civilians. It avoids launch missiles where innocent casualties are likely. But innocent people (as ever in these circumstances) still get killed. It's all about intent.
biko wrote: » Tbh, I don't know what about the Israel - Palestinian conflict get people's attention so much. It's one of the least deadly current conflicts but gets most traction by the lefties. Lefties tend to choose easy conflicts where the newspapers can give them a clear enemy. African or Asian conflicts are too complex for the general leftie to get upset about. When was the last time a leftie started a thread anywhere on boards about Nigeria, Sudan or Burma?
steddyeddy wrote: » One of the most naive posts I have read. A basic Palestinians are bad Isreali are good post.
brimal wrote: » Conveniently forgetting Egypt..
Guillermo Faithful Tractor wrote: » To another area of IDF operations, and an area not being used as a launch site I guess. The problem with launch sites is they're highly mobile, often unmanned and regularly in civilian population centers ~ although Gaza doesn't afford the luxury of too many hiding places to attack from.I've often wondered why there hasn't been loud calls for a UN protection force for the Gaza/Egyptian/Israeli borders ~ I suspect its mostly down to Israeli mistrust of the UN.
biko wrote: » Tbh, I don't know what about the Israel - Palestinian conflict get people's attention so much. It's one of the least deadly current conflicts but gets most traction by the lefties. Lefties tend to choose easy conflicts where the newspapers can give them a clear enemy. African or Asian conflicts are too complex for the general leftie to get upset about. When was the last time a leftie started a thread anywhere on boards about Nigeria, Sudan or Burma? "Choose your battles" indeed...
dj jarvis wrote: » i have deep concern for this conflict - i feel really sorry for the poor ****ers involved. i am FAR from a leftist.
dj jarvis wrote: » Am i missing something ? i never knew that Egypt was part of Palestine , the home land of the people of gaza , oh wait , that would be the land that Israel stole , and its Israel that is bombiong the **** out of them , Egypt just happens to be neighbours , Israel is the aggressor , Egypt does not need to do nothing ( other than keep looking the other way when the TRAPPED Palestinians smuggle goods via the tunnels ) red herring i am afraid - so cant really forget something that has little or no relevance to the present situation.
dj jarvis wrote: » come on Makikomi - send in the blue berets between Hamass and the IDF and you have south Lebanon circa 1980 all over again - not sure the Irish have the stomach for burying their boys , just so the IDF and Israeli backed groups can use the Irish as target practice becasue , we all know , it will be the Irish put in the most dangerous positions
brimal wrote: » Absolute rubbish post. You're fanatical at this stage.
brimal wrote: » Doesn't Egypt have a crossing that they could open permanently, but refuse? Didn't Egypt destroy dozens of tunnels into/out of Gaza recently?
Sound of Silence wrote: » The Christian-Right are just as involved in this debate as the Left. I don't know of any African Conflicts which happen to take place in areas of any sort of Religious or Spiritual relevance for the average Westerner, never-mind an area which just so happens to be the literal and geographical epicentre for almost all of the world's largest religions. There's a reason why Israel is such a buzz topic in America - it's because, for a significant portion of the population, what happens in Israel essentially equates to the fulfilment of Biblical prophecy. The detractors then arrive into the debates to face off with the fundamentalists, and then we have the inevitable cluster**** that is Israel threads, where the worlds of dogma, politics and morality collide in a horrible way.
biko wrote: » "Choose your battles" indeed...
The Aussie wrote: » My favourite Leftyism is the advocation of violence if it suits your agenda, a rather quaint ideal...
biko wrote: » Tbh, I don't know what about the Israel - Palestinian conflict get people's attention so much. It's one of the least deadly current conflicts but gets most traction by the lefties.Lefties tend to choose easy conflicts where the newspapers can give them a clear enemy. African or Asian conflicts are too complex for the general leftie to get upset about. When was the last time a leftie started a thread anywhere on boards about Nigeria, Sudan or Burma? "Choose your battles" indeed...
steddyeddy wrote: » Can anyone define a leftie or is it something people use in the absence of a cogent argument? Seriously I would love to know what it means.
dj jarvis wrote: » As far as i can grasp from AH - a leftie is a unwashed , dole scrounging rabble rouser , who will protest at the drop of a hat , signed up to every union available , have beards , women included , and is waiting for the soviet union re boot to sell their souls to stalins robotic ghost , hates america , white people and anyone with more than 20.43 euro available at any one time am i missing anything ?
dj jarvis wrote: » come on Makikomi - send in the blue berets between Hamass and the IDF and you have south Lebanon circa 1980 all over again - not sure the Irish have the stomach for burying their boys , just so the IDF and Israeli backed groups can use the Irish as target practice
dj jarvis wrote: » every other time the Irish UN forces have been put between the IDF and either the PLO (as it was in the 70's and 80's) or as it would be Hammas , they have gotten the **** shelled and shoot out of them by Israeli backed forces its fact , its history , it will happen again if the Irish are put in that position
The Aussie wrote: » You mean they were Chicks I saw at the Occupy disaster that the usual rent a crowd turned up at... Well #LOL@THEM
brimal wrote: » I'm well aware of the history of Irish troops over here, but your posts on this subject are nothing but fanatical, emotive rubbish.
steddyeddy wrote: » The Aussie we're not children or stupid people please feel free to use an intelligent argument instead of words like LOL, ROFL or LMAO.
The Aussie wrote: » I figured seemingly that you seemed to have a "word for the Day" that I was dealing with the usual... Do you think you can fit Cogent Argument into any more replies...
