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Spray for docks/nettles?

Bleating Lamb

Have never had big prob with docks but they are establishing in bunches in a grazing field,it was cleaned off the other day.....what is best spray suitable for 15 litre knapsack sprayer to treat them,what's best application rate/mix for that size of knapsack sprayer and should I leave them a month to regrow before treating.?

Same question for nettles...they are taking over a paddock inaccessible by tractor so will knapsack spray it,whats best spray and suitable mix for 15 litre tank,
Many thanks for any advice,
Ps roughly what price are products for smallish bottle of spray.

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Greengrass1

awaywithyou wrote: »

Used hurler last yr on after grass.. Thought it set the grass back a bit... How'd you find it??

Sprayed reseeds with it on Saturday. Grass looks fine. Going to use it on silage ground next week for docks

awaywithyou

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Sprayed reseeds with it on Saturday. Grass looks fine. Going to use it on silage ground next week for docks

Have after grass to do myself next week... It'll be doxstar pro..... If only the grass would grow at the same rate as the docks and weeds...

dharn

Anyone know why doxstar is not recommended for knapsack use

whelan2

i sprayed a paddock with dockstar on saturday evening, would it be ok to let cows in to paddock beside it this evening, i assume there would be feck all drift in this weather?

Sami23

Want to spray docks in aftergrass. Which wud be better spray, MCPA, Hurler or Mortone ?
About 4 acres to do

whelan2

micky mouse wrote: »

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how long after spraying do you need to leave before cutting meadow,in order to be sure it has worked its way down into the root system

10 days, spray man said

dharn

Sami23 wrote: »

Want to spray docks in aftergrass. Which wud be better spray, MCPA, Hurler or Mortone ?
About 4 acres to do

Dockstar is best, none of above

Sami23

dharn wrote: »

Dockstar is best, none of above

But won't that kill clover ?

Farmer Pudsey

Sami23 wrote: »

Want to spray docks in aftergrass. Which wud be better spray, MCPA, Hurler or Mortone ?
About 4 acres to do

Sami23 wrote: »

But won't that kill clover ?

MCPA and mortone are the same they are both MCPA based so while they will kill the top growth and set docks back they will not kill same. If you had dock in ground with rushers where you were spraying regularerly with MCPA and an activator it would over time kill them.

Hurler will kill docks and so will Hi-load Micram. I find Micram very effective and cheap at 10 euro/acre. Have never used Hurler but a few on here have and seem to have got good results

farmernewbie

Lads,

I have a field after reseeding that has alot of thistles and nettles. Would MCPA be the best for this? I see 10L is only €48 but 1L of grazon is €60.

whelan2

farmernewbie wrote: »

Lads,

I have a field after reseeding that has alot of thistles and nettles. Would MCPA be the best for this? I see 10L is only €48 but 1L of grazon is €60.

i used high load mircam, worked well

farmernewbie

whelan2 wrote: »

i used high load mircam, worked well

Thanks, any idea of litres/price?

Farmer Pudsey

farmernewbie wrote: »

Lads,

I have a field after reseeding that has alot of thistles and nettles. Would MCPA be the best for this? I see 10L is only €48 but 1L of grazon is €60.

If weeds are at seedling or a little beyond MCPA is ideal, cheap and cheerfull. Not sure of dosage rates however it will setabck clover and may kill it completely. However if you have a weed issue I would wipe out the weeds and forget about clover

PureBred

farmernewbie wrote: »

Thanks, any idea of litres/price?

€90 for 5L on magenta.

Does anyone know if Agritox 50 will kill rushes. It says it contains MCPA 500 g/L.

farmernewbie

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

If weeds are at seedling or a little beyond MCPA is ideal, cheap and cheerfull. Not sure of dosage rates however it will setabck clover and may kill it completely. However if you have a weed issue I would wipe out the weeds and forget about clover

Thanks, reseeded last year but only got to graze this year and it's up for silage now. Ready to cut this week. There was a few thistles and a patch or two of nettles but they have taken over a good section of the field now.

I want to tackle these with a knapsack and go for the cheapest but most effective option. Will tackle when regrowing after silage cut. No clover so ok. It's annoying they have taken over so much and damaged grass. Should have tackled them earlier. Rest of grass is clean.

Greengrass1

Got mcpa there today. 26 for 5l or 50 for 10l
Got it for spraying around dutches and under wires. Dirt cheap compared to grazon or the likes

Farmer Pudsey

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Got mcpa there today. 26 for 5l or 50 for 10l
Got it for spraying around dutches and under wires. Dirt cheap compared to grazon or the likes

The only reason to buy grazon or terbel or scrubkiller is if you have briars or woody weeds to kill. Things like nettles, thistles are easy enough to kill

Greengrass1

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The only reason to buy grazon or terbel or scrubkiller is if you have briars or woody weeds to kill. Things like nettles, thistles are easy enough to kill

Yep all that's in this place is nettles and thistles. No sign of a dock.
It says in the can though that it kills docks too

whelan2

got a hell of a kill with the grazon 90 and round up, going to do a few more knapsacks tomorrow

Oldtree

somebody round this way has had a go at brambles along a few of the road stony walls and it has been very successful, just sticks left, never seen the like before.

wool521

Would DB plus be ok to spray On a field reserved in mid March

Odelay

Oldtree wrote: »

somebody round this way has had a go at brambles along a few of the road stony walls and it has been very successful, just sticks left, never seen the like before.[/quote

What did he use? Grazon 90 leaves crunchy sticks from brambles here, to be honest it is the easiest thing it kills, only needs a brief spray. I'd like to find something cheaper/more cost effective tho......

Oldtree

I don't know, I just noticed the effect. If I see a man in the field I'll ask him, but it dosnt seem to have killed anything else.

darragh_haven

whelan2 wrote: »

got a hell of a kill with the grazon 90 and round up, going to do a few more knapsacks tomorrow

Do you mix the 2 together and just spray away, or spray individually

whelan2

darragh_haven wrote: »

Do you mix the 2 together and just spray away, or spray individually

mix together at normal rate

Farmer Pudsey

I think if you shop around you can get MCPA for around 40, last Thursday's rag had a price guide on sprays, MCPA was as low as 35 and Micram 66. I find that some co-op's and merchants are better than others. Liffy mills are usually not too bad, dairygold co-op's, there is a place in Ennis that when I passed throught a while back, McInerneys I think. There is a miller near Patrickswell in Limerick.

Animal medicines are the same you be amazed how much you save i got the turbomec that someone put the link up to on Monday. 100 euro 2.5 litres that is 40c for a 500kg bullock for worms:D. Its dated to end of 2016 so it will last. You have to shop around and know your ingredients if you want to save money

Mad4simmental

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I think if you shop around you can get MCPA for around 40, last Thursday's rag had a price guide on sprays, MCPA was as low as 35 and Micram 66. I find that some co-op's and merchants are better than others. Liffy mills are usually not too bad, dairygold co-op's, there is a place in Ennis that when I passed throught a while back, McInerneys I think. There is a miller near Patrickswell in Limerick.

Animal medicines are the same you be amazed how much you save i got the turbomec that someone put the link up to on Monday. 100 euro 2.5 litres that is 40c for a 500kg bullock for worms:D. Its dated to end of 2016 so it will last. You have to shop around and know your ingredients if you want to save money

Was that on the ag direct sight? Sum good deals on it. Local coop will often drop the price to match if you say you can get elce where for x amount.

moy83

Anyone know where I can get High load micram cheap online or around Galway ? I see magenta has it for E90

Conmaicne Mara

Have a few annoying docks coming up around where the ground was disturbed for doing the tunnel foundation, think I still have some Grazon left, kill them for this year only or kill them entirely?

moy83

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Have a few annoying docks coming up around where the ground was disturbed for doing the tunnel foundation, think I still have some Grazon left, kill them for this year only or kill them entirely?

Do you mean will the Grazon kill them entirely or just short term ?
Im not at all well up on sprays ( only sprayed my first few acres the last night !)