ScienceNerd wrote: » As horrified as I am, I can't say I'm all that surprised. Yet another case of the Catholic Church, aided and abetted by the state, grossly abusing the citizens of Ireland.
denhaagenite wrote: » Making it public in an international way, shaming them into doing something. Because this is shameful, for all of us, and we will all express the shame and remorse that is due for this. But the Catholic Church won't unless they are forced to, and forced out of Irish daily life once and for all.
My name is URL wrote: » If the history of what the church is responsible for here wasn't enough to 'force them out' then 10,000 names on an internet petition won't be. Anyway, Fitzgerald should be locked the fcuk up herself for ignoring the issue and sweeping it under the rug when she was originally made aware of it. It's basically obstruction of justice
A cross-department initiative has begun to examine how best to address details emerging about 'mother and baby homes' and the burial of deceased children.
how best to address details
Resonator75 wrote: » Way to go RTE. 2 full minutes of coverage on the main evening news about premeditated construction of mass graves for at least 800 childeren. Now 10 mins on how brave Noonan is and how he will give us a great budget. God Im angry.
ScumLord wrote: » I think every catholic should do themselves a service and start studying the history of their faith. Look at where the church came from and how it evolved. It is not the church of Jesus Christ, it's a complete contradiction to everything Jesus was about from what I can see. I like the story of jesus, if he was a real guy, he was a real influential guy that had some great things to say and all credit to the man for getting so many people to listen but the church has hijacked his message, they abuse it and contort it to enrich the catholic corporation. My tolerance for this institution has been entirely used up, it should do the world a favour and take up it's starring role in ancient history books.
InTheTrees wrote: » I was just reading a story about how no records could be found on the church putting up disabled kids for adoption. So what happened to the disabled kids?
denhaagenite wrote: » The petition hasn't even hit 5000 signatures yet, even though this thread has had 321 replies and over 13,000 views. Sign and share folks!!https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Frances_Fitzgerald_Irish_Minister_for_Justice_and_Equality_A_full_Gardai_investigation_into_the_mass_grave_in_Tuam_Co_Ga/
darkpagandeath wrote: » That was fast carbon dating to find out they were famine era ....
RobertKK wrote: » It was the parents putting their children up for adoption...the families in these cases are getting a nice free ride.
RobertKK wrote: » They have studied their faith, look, Jesus had a problem with Peter, he chopped off an ear of one of the people who went to arrest Jesus, he told Jesus he would never deny him, but did three times. Peter went onto be the first Pope, he like every other human was not perfect, it is a church of sinners and some have more to answer for than others. There is good and bad, we can judge the good by the bad, the bad by the good, but should one allow the bad to influence one to the point they can no longer see good? When one studies it, they know the good cannot be judged by the bad, or the bad by the good. You have to see what is there, what is good is good, what is bad is bad. We know from Jesus that one of your own can always betray you.
shruikan2553 wrote: » Parents? There was only the mother and she wasnt given a choice.
SpaceTime wrote: » Local historian Catherine Corless has to be given a lot of credit here for actually going and rooting through all the documentation that's brought this to light. It's a very sad situation when you think about it. Probably the first person to have actually given some thought and respect to those kids is an investigator who several generations younger than them.
RobertKK wrote: » An immaculate conception? There was a father somewhere.
RobertKK wrote: » When were they first carbon testing done? Since they have had bones for at least two decades now.
bumper234 wrote: » Do you think these women went to these places voluntarily?
SpaceTime wrote: » Local historian Catherine Corless has to be given a lot of credit here for actually going and rooting through all the documentation that's brought this to light.It's a very sad situation when you think about it. Probably the first person to have actually given some thought and respect to those kids is an investigator who several generations younger than them.
Catherine Corless, the local historian and genealogist, remembers the Home Babies well. “They were always segregated to the side of regular classrooms,” Corless tells IrishCentral. “By doing this the nuns telegraphed the message that they were different and that we should keep away from them. “They didn’t suggest we be nice to them. In fact if you acted up in class some nuns would threaten to seat you next to the Home Babies. That was the message we got in our young years,” Corless recalls. Now a dedicated historian of the site, as a schoolgirl Corless recalls watching an older friend wrap a tiny stone inside a bright candy wrapper and present it as a gift to one of them. “When the child opened it she saw she’d been fooled,” Corless says. “Of course I copied her later and I tried to play the joke on another little Home girl. I thought it was funny at the time.” But later – years later – Corless realized that the children she taunted had nobody. “Years after I asked myself what did I do to that poor little girl that never saw a sweet? That has stuck with me all my life. A part of me wants to make up to them.”
Reformed Character wrote: » That might be true of Christianity generally, but when it comes to the RCC it should by this stage be very clear that it is an institutionally corrupt, morally bankrupt organization that exists with little more purpose other than to accrue wealth, dominance and acquisition of power over its members. IMO is no different than other cults who over the centuries have abused their power for the gain of the few at the top.
