5uspect wrote: » You have to smoke 3 metres away from a doorway at least.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_in_Ireland#Bans_on_smoking
SterlingArcher wrote: » Go into a playground, light up a smoke and tell the kids to get out. Essentially the same difference.
It's stupid, kids shouldn't be in pubs at all, the beer garden's for smokers.
TireeTerror wrote: » Only total and utter scumbags smoke. There must seriously be something mentally wrong with anyone under 40 who smokes. When I hear about people dying of cancer and other smoking related illnesses due to them smoking, I don't feel any sympathy at all. They brought it upon themselves and its tough luck on them. Their selfishness and lack of respect for life and the feelings of their friends and family members makes them sick in the head. The amount of disgust many people have for junkies seems to be accepted by many, but smoking is deemed as more socially acceptable. Ridiculous, at least junkies have the excuse that they got high and it was an utterly amazing experience, when did someone feel that way after smoking their first cigarette? No, I have decided that whenever someone informs me of a person under 40 who is suffering due to smoking I will just treat them with the same contempt that many treat junkies with.
TireeTerror wrote: » 3 times this week I was providing lifts to work for people who didn't have a car or couldn't afford any other means of travel. You should have seen the annoyance I caused when I refused to pull over and stop so they could have a smoke. Obviously I wasn't letting them smoke in my car, and I certainly was not going to delay my journey, which was all at my own expense I might add, just to permit them to smoke. When we did stop for fuel they took the opportunity to have a quick smoke. I pissed myself laughing inside when I insisted on each of them doing 10 deep exhales before entering my car. When they protested, I said I advised that if they wished to pollute their own atmosphere and kill themselves that was their business, but I was not going to be involved in it and I didn't want to smell it off their rank rotten breath when they get in the car and breathe in my direction. I think smokers often forget, or do not realise just how sensitive the smell is for a non-smoker. If its not that, its their manky dirty stinking yellow tinged fingers that would make me sick. If they wanted the luxury of being able to smoke in their own vehicle, I suggested they saved and bought one. Its odd that whenever I ask for them to contribute to the fuel costs, they are skint, yet they always seem to have a pack of fags in their pocket. It is just another example of the selfish mentality of smokers in general, dirty stinking peasants.
bumper234 wrote: » Amazing how you say smokers are polluting the atmosphere but you are helping to pollute the atmosphere for others by driving. What about the poor children who have no choice but to breath in your horrible skanky petrol/diesel fumes full of poisons and cancer causing carcinogenics.
TireeTerror wrote: » The reality is that in rural areas we need to use vehicles for travel and work, but you do not need to smoke. I suppose I could give my cars up and then claim welfare and sit at home all day, but that would create another problem.
dj jarvis wrote: » but, more people have STOPPED smoking real cigs and eventually e cig , by using e cigs to wean themselves of the dreaded nicotine, i know loads of people who have given up real and e cigs , becasue of e cig use, and becasue of all the knee jerk , un educated reactions to people using e cigs , we will get the stupid politicians banning the e cigs to try win a few votes , becasue a vocal MINORITY are banging on about their use , so the result will be MORE people unfortunately ending up like your father becasue they were not given the chance to quit , becasue the proven , working cessation aide has been banned by idiots . e cigs work getting people off cigarettes - people should stop jumping on the band wagon about banning the feckin things and we will ALL be better off this subject drives me mental - over a decade i tried EVERYTHING to quit , nothing worked , not even a heart attack , but e cigs worked first go , cigarette free3 years , e cig free also people should get their head out of the arse , and stop being so quick to ban something they know little or nothing about
rotun wrote: » hope you charged your device with solar power!
Afroshack wrote: » Is this socially acceptable? Yesterday I was having after-work drinks and food in a really sunny beer garden with some work friends - around half 7 in the evening. A family with small children came out and sat next to us, then requested that we stop smoking whilst they were there with their kids. In an outdoor beer garden. We agreed to do it, but it was pretty clear we weren't happy about it. Do you think they were right to request that we not smoke and we were right to make our feelings clear? Id' never smoke near a child at a bus stop/ street area but surely a beer garden at 7pm is fair game?
TireeTerror wrote: » The irony is that I made those journeys in my Land Rover when I could have used my company car which has about 3 times better fuel economy. The journey was also 100% on the road too, with no need for 4 wheel drive and low ratio gearboxes! The reality is that in rural areas we need to use vehicles for travel and work, but you do not need to smoke. I suppose I could give my cars up and then claim welfare and sit at home all day, but that would create another problem.
lollsangel wrote: » Heres my 2 cents. Both me andmy partner are ex smokers and have 2 almost 5 year olds. Firstly they have been in a pub pub once in theid life for the sandwiches after their greatgrandads funeral. To us pubs are for adults and really not for kids. As far as I would be concerned with any communal outside areas, if youre there before me and have the fags on the table or smoking, I wouldnt be sitting beside you with my kids, fairly sure theres more than 2 tables. However id let rip if you seeing young kids, decided to sit beside me and the kids and sparked up. The wirld would be a better place if we just accepted each other foibles and had mutual respect .
Afroshack wrote: » You could walk/cycle to work and use the money you saved on petrol to start smoking. An expensive, yet utterly glorious habit sometimes.
fathead82 wrote: » fanta filled little f*cker .
TireeTerror wrote: » Walk or cycle? I have a bike, but I think cycling about 100-250km every single day might take too long!
ratmouse wrote: » Seriously man, you'd want to practice what you preach in terms of knowing little ot nothing about a subject. Do you have any grasp at all about how the tobacco world works?! The e cigs are not designed to wean people off regular cigarettes. They are a (for now anyway), a legal substitute for a regular cigarette that can be smoked legally in many specified places (legal term). They still release a good nicotine hit and enough to keep a user addicted. They are designed to be an attractive product, made even more so by the various flavours available. The young may be a target for these, never take up actually smoking but take up use of ecigs and be subject to enough of a nicotine release to get them and keep them hooked.
Pwindedd wrote: » But is nicotine harmful on its own. Addictive certainly, but really harmful? I'm not actually sure. A quick google there and the consensus seems to be it's not much worse than caffeine in small doses. The entire coffee industry thrives on selling a drug that is mildly addictive. I'm not advocating nicotine for all but surely an e cig is a vastly better alternative. All the fun ingredients of a cigarette with none of the bad stuff that gives you cancer. It's a step in the right direction and I think banning them would be a mistake - if they didn't release vapour I'm sure most people wouldn't bat an eyelid at them.
Afroshack wrote: » But the point is that you chose to sit in a smoking area. Where everyone is allowed to smoke and there is an ashtray on every table. If you knew people were likely to smoke here and they were there because they were allowed to light up, why should they be prevented from doing so because you, knowing it was a smoking area, knowing there were ashtrays scattered around and knowing that people were they specifically so they could smoke - why would you sit there and 'let rip' at the rest of us?
