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FG councillor hit in face while out telling lies to try get elected

renegademaster

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-councillor-hit-in-face-while-out-canvassing-30261769.html

well they can't say they weren't warned!!

A Fine Gael councillor was assaulted while out canvassing.

Cllr Humphrey Deegan, inset, was canvassing for party colleague John O'Sullivan in Clonakility, west Cork, when the incident happened.

Mr Deegan said canvassers were calling at houses on Connolly Street when a man launched obscenities and then hit him in the face.

"The level of abuse thrown at me was appalling. He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," said Mr Deegan, who will report it to gardai.

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arybvtcw0eolkf

MonstaMash wrote: »

The 'hoi polloi' are pished off with politicos & their never ending bull****, false gestures & punitive stealth taxes...

Anger & frustration will manifest itself physically for the few...

Having said that, I am not advocating/condoning reactionary violence, better to engage them on an intelligent level via the democratic process.

Aye but... Fook 'im. I'm surprised this has been a first tbh.

Wicklowrider

Not so long since a FG councillor was accused of assaulting a pensioner, another FG councillor of assaulting his former boss. Back then I remember thinking there is more to these stories than meets the eye and it never occurred to me to post comments because I had not got the facts.
And there was more to both cases.
Destroying the character of someone you know nothing about without a shred of evidence - is that the kind of thing FG and its supporters do?

Uriel.

Putin wrote: »

Democracy my arse, don't delude yourself. This is the country that had to rerun a European referendum because our Government and their EU masters, didn't like the result the first time around.

I know that second referendum when we were told we couldn't vote no again and they pointed guns at us threatening us to make our mark in the correct box. Darn fascist state.

If only they could have gone off and secured a better deal and then come back to us and asked us to vote on the revised version.... Oh wait

The Backwards Man

Royal Legend wrote: »

Its funny how ordinary people are tagged as scumbags and politicians are not spoken of in this manner.
Also certain people on here who appear to have a particular political affiliation serm to be promoting this "assaulted councillor" as the injured party when it also seems likrly that he was not so blameless and also may be the agressor.

Ordinary people don't get into scraps with canvassers.

Royal Legend

Its funny how ordinary people are tagged as scumbags and politicians are not spoken of in this manner.
Also certain people on here who appear to have a particular political affiliation serm to be promoting this "assaulted councillor" as the injured party when it also seems likrly that he was not so blameless and also may be the agressor.

Putin

Foxhound38 wrote: »

This is a democracy

Democracy my arse, don't delude yourself. This is the country that had to rerun a European referendum because our Government and their EU masters, didn't like the result the first time around.

Uriel.

Royal Legend wrote: »

You do not know that the "scumbag" beat him up, its all supposition and it appears that the boot may be on the other foot and that it is the councillor that could be charged with assault.

So who is the scumbag Ugo, the man on the street or the politician?

We don't know yet. Although we do know that it wasn't the political

Royal Legend

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Would you beat him up too big man? Like the scumbag in this situation did?

Seeing as every single person involved in politics is "scum of the earth" according to you :rolleyes:

You do not know that the "scumbag" beat him up, its all supposition and it appears that the boot may be on the other foot and that it is the councillor that could be charged with assault.

So who is the scumbag Ugo, the man on the street or the politician?

Corkfeen

renegademaster wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-councillor-hit-in-face-while-out-canvassing-30261769.html

well they can't say they weren't warned!!

A Fine Gael councillor was assaulted while out canvassing.

Cllr Humphrey Deegan, inset, was canvassing for party colleague John O'Sullivan in Clonakility, west Cork, when the incident happened.

Mr Deegan said canvassers were calling at houses on Connolly Street when a man launched obscenities and then hit him in the face.

"The level of abuse thrown at me was appalling. He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," said Mr Deegan, who will report it to gardai.

It's really a pretty awful reflection upon you if you view it to be okay to assault a person on the street for their political affiliation. It's deplorable behaviour which is of zero benefit to evolving our political system.

Arthur Beesley

renegademaster wrote: »

what? where did i say i supported the assault???????? i have absolutely no party affiliation, none!! not fianna fail, not fine gael, not labour, not green, not swp/pbp, not sinn fein, none. is that spelled out enough for you

I don't believe you.

Hitchens

Foxhound38 wrote: »

The worst of it I've seen from that Says No group, although I'm not sure if I'd describe them as left-wing as such. They have more in common with a proto-fascist group - they exist to abuse people who have beliefs other than theirs.

Remember that Labour candidate the other week who got abused and ran off an estate? That was their work. Would not surprise me a jot if this was their work too, it would certaintly be in their character.

Boko Haram are worser

Foxhound38

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The left wing in this country are sickening. They honestly feel that abuse and violence is OK just because their lives are ****.

The far left politicians are encouraging the latest incidents too. Their ground support are encouraged to go out and confront FG/Lab politicians and troll social network sites

The worst of it I've seen from that Says No group, although I'm not sure if I'd describe them as left-wing as such. They have more in common with a proto-fascist group - they exist to abuse people who have beliefs other than theirs.

Remember that Labour candidate the other week who got abused and ran off an estate? That was their work. Would not surprise me a jot if this was their work too, it would certaintly be in their character.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

Wicklowrider wrote: »

just using your quote as a an example...

How come everyone professes to know what actually happened?
I've read all I can find and it appears to be very sketchy, brief and only one witness's statement?
If assault is suspected , wouldn't a file go to the DPP and then a decision made for formal charges down the road? Wouldn't that be followed by a court where the incident would be judged?
Isn't that how it works in a democracy?

Good point in fairness! I was a bit presumptuous

Foxhound38

everlast75 wrote: »

I'd LOVE if one of them would call to my door. Chickeny b*stards won't though!

Why, would you hit them like the guy in the OP did? :rolleyes:

Uriel.

old_aussie wrote: »

He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," said Mr Deegan, who will report it to gardai

Report what to the police, that he's "a blue-shirt bastard and a liar"

Any political party that dares canvass on my doorstep will be told in the same fashion, feck off you lying scumbag, followed by a triad of abuse.

Next to religion these people(politicians) are the scum of the earth.

Do you kick the **** out of pensioners as well?

The problem with this ssociety is people who approach it in the manner you seem to suggest.

If would be candidates call at your door, is it beyond the realms of possibility to have a rational reasoned debate with them, to be put cross your views as to why you won't vote for them, and why you would vote for someone else, without being abusive.

Or is the fact that the strength of your argument extends to, "I want to pay as little taxes as I can, and have the best quality services handed to me at the same time?" or "yes I want all these services, finance them how you see best, but make sure everyone else pays for them and I don't have to"

Richard Hillman

Royal Legend wrote: »

I will spell it out more accurately for you

He represents a party (Fine Gael) who told lies (quiet a few, in fact too many to mention) .

Eh no. Please enlighten us to these "lies".

Wicklowrider

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Like the scumbag in this situation did?

just using your quote as a an example...

How come everyone professes to know what actually happened?
I've read all I can find and it appears to be very sketchy, brief and only one witness's statement?
If assault is suspected , wouldn't a file go to the DPP and then a decision made for formal charges down the road? Wouldn't that be followed by a court where the incident would be judged?
Isn't that how it works in a democracy?

Foxhound38

renegademaster wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-councillor-hit-in-face-while-out-canvassing-30261769.html

well they can't say they weren't warned!!

A Fine Gael councillor was assaulted while out canvassing.

Cllr Humphrey Deegan, inset, was canvassing for party colleague John O'Sullivan in Clonakility, west Cork, when the incident happened.

Mr Deegan said canvassers were calling at houses on Connolly Street when a man launched obscenities and then hit him in the face.

"The level of abuse thrown at me was appalling. He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," said Mr Deegan, who will report it to gardai.

This is a democracy - how dare you advocate bringing violence and intimidation into it.

You do a lot of whinging about "the system" renegademaster, and the fact that nobody shows up at your protests (I'm beginning to see why, if this is your attitude) - why don't you have the balls to run yourself and try to change something if you're so inclined, instead of engaging in this sort of nonsense.

Hitting a councillor trying to get on with their business - yeah, that'll change things alright :rolleyes:

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

old_aussie wrote: »

He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," said Mr Deegan, who will report it to gardai

Report what to the police, that he's "a blue-shirt bastard and a liar"

Any political party that dares canvass on my doorstep will be told in the same fashion, feck off you lying scumbag, followed by a triad of abuse.

Next to religion these people(politicians) are the scum of the earth.

Would you beat him up too big man? Like the scumbag in this situation did?

Seeing as every single person involved in politics is "scum of the earth" according to you :rolleyes:

old_aussie

He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," said Mr Deegan, who will report it to gardai

Report what to the police, that he's "a blue-shirt bastard and a liar"

Any political party that dares canvass on my doorstep will be told in the same fashion, feck off you lying scumbag, followed by a triad of abuse.

Next to religion these people(politicians) are the scum of the earth.

Banjo String

Royal Legend wrote: »

Are you serious, assault is assault, he should be charged and brought to court, end of.

are you saying that because he is a councillor that different rules should apply and that he should be just stopped from canvassing in future?

Yeah of course he should be charged. Whichever one proves to be the instigator.

bumper234

Royal Legend wrote: »

I will spell it out more accurately for you

He represents a party (Fine Gael) who told lies (quiet a few, in fact too many to mention) so as they could give themselves a chance to be elected ( and claim ministerial pensions, which they so richly deserved for all their years of perseverance in waiting in the wings to be elected, especially as the alternative was to cancel their leave of absence from their teaching jobs that was giving them a lesser pension)

And by the way, how is someone shouting abuse at you and knocking leaflets out of your hand a reason to assault someone?

The amount of FG apologists that seem to appear on boards and other social media outlets, leads me to believe that FG have actually setup their own social media department.

Could you name a political party that has kept EVERY election promise they made once they got into power?

Royal Legend

Banjo String wrote: »

In the name of fairness,I'm not an FG fan, but if you are pissed off with a political parties stance, roughing them up on the street is a scummy thing to do not matter who they are or represent. It's Indefensible.

However.

If it emerges that the canvasser did indeed happen to be the first one to use physical force, he should be prevented from doing anything at all that involves having face to face contact with Joe public.

Are you serious, assault is assault, he should be charged and brought to court, end of.

are you saying that because he is a councillor that different rules should apply and that he should be just stopped from canvassing in future?

bumper234

renegademaster wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS0c5AkiNg

Excellent link to a video of people inside a television studio. What's that got to do with the misleading sensationalist thread title?

Banjo String

In the name of fairness,I'm not an FG fan, but if you are pissed off with a political parties stance, roughing them up on the street is a scummy thing to do not matter who they are or represent. It's Indefensible.

However.

If it emerges that the canvasser did indeed happen to be the first one to use physical force, he should be prevented from doing anything at all that involves having face to face contact with Joe public.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You couldn't even get the information in the title of the thread right. He is not trying to get elected, he is campaigning on behalf of a colleague. His own job as a Town Councillor is gone and he is not standing for election to to the County Council.

lol. Not a clue

Royal Legend

Jaylah CoolS Aftershave wrote: »

Tell me one lie this individual told. Not that that is any excuse for assault.

I will spell it out more accurately for you

He represents a party (Fine Gael) who told lies (quiet a few, in fact too many to mention) so as they could give themselves a chance to be elected ( and claim ministerial pensions, which they so richly deserved for all their years of perseverance in waiting in the wings to be elected, especially as the alternative was to cancel their leave of absence from their teaching jobs that was giving them a lesser pension)

And by the way, how is someone shouting abuse at you and knocking leaflets out of your hand a reason to assault someone?

The amount of FG apologists that seem to appear on boards and other social media outlets, leads me to believe that FG have actually setup their own social media department.

dxhound2005

renegademaster wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-councillor-hit-in-face-while-out-canvassing-30261769.html

well they can't say they weren't warned!!

A Fine Gael councillor was assaulted while out canvassing.

Cllr Humphrey Deegan, inset, was canvassing for party colleague John O'Sullivan in Clonakility, west Cork, when the incident happened.

Mr Deegan said canvassers were calling at houses on Connolly Street when a man launched obscenities and then hit him in the face.

"The level of abuse thrown at me was appalling. He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," said Mr Deegan, who will report it to gardai.

You couldn't even get the information in the title of the thread right. He is not trying to get elected, he is campaigning on behalf of a colleague. His own job as a Town Councillor is gone and he is not standing for election to to the County Council.

Boombastic

renegademaster wrote: »

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..... He was calling me a blue-shirt bastard and a liar," ...

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

renegademaster wrote: »

what? where did i say i supported the assault???????? i have absolutely no party affiliation, none!! not fianna fail, not fine gael, not labour, not green, not swp/pbp, not sinn fein, none. is that spelled out enough for you

No, your whole thing is about this supposed revolution that you constantly bleat on about (multiple threads started). Yet you don't have a notion of what would actually happen after it

You're saying you don't approve of what this scumbag did but you're revelling in his actions all the same. Which is just as disgusting

Get off the soapbox

It's people like you that give real liberals a bad name. You haven't a bulls notion

Also, how in gods name do you know he was telling lies? You don't know. He could have been, but you weren't there so maybe don't lie yourself