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Mod Note: In all of my benevolence (and the fact I'm tired of cleaning gag posts out of the BA thread) I have created a new (did we ever have one??) Off Topic thread for all your randomness and IT-related humour! The rules are: there are no rules. Although posting on-topic stuff here or stuff that belongs in Hardware Discussion etc. better may be moved randomly with extreme prejudice!! It will also make you look silly

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Headshot

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/37266/the-pentagon-s-latest-experiment-a-terminator-like-rescue-robot/index.html

Why are they creating the end of man kind?

Serephucus

There's also the 34UM65. It's a 2560x1080 version, for ~€590. Might look into that one...

Genghiz Cohen

Sick of our wireless router dropping devices.
If I said I'd spend around €150 on a good router for the house, what would you say to me?

deejer

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Sick of our wireless router dropping devices.
If I said I'd spend around €150 on a good router for the house, what would you say to me?

Id say Id like to do the same thing myself.

Serephucus

I'd actually like an answer to this one as well. Been looking at this one myself, but I don't know how much of a difference it'll actually make. Have a supposedly pretty decent N one at the minute.

deejer

Serephucus wrote: »

I'd actually like an answer to this one as well. Been looking at this one myself, but I don't know how much of a difference it'll actually make. Have a supposedly pretty decent N one at the minute.

What do you have at the moment?

Serephucus

This yoke.

Headshot

This is my one
http://www.amazon.co.uk/RT-AC66U-AC1750-Diamond-Dual-Band-Gigabit/dp/B008O56HXC/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1398347879&sr=1-2&keywords=Asus+RT-N66U

rolexeagle1

I have the new one UPC have been sending out, its a Thompson one, and I must say its doing its job very well. Gets me 30m down while up in the attic on my HTC one. Wired to the PC I have seen 90+

Revoker88

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I put off my 21:9 monitor purchase, because 4k showed its ugly face. Now I know for sure, I did not made mistake. This ( or other brand same resolution ) monitor is going to be my next upgrade. Its just perfect for me. Specially when I do play racing games with G27.

Dont forget though that that res needs 35% more grunt than 1440p,therefore you would most likely need to look at crossfire/sli,just like you would for 4k so i doubt you be saving much by going for that res.

As you put it you would need an "ePenis" rig to run it also:p

ShadowHearth

EoinHef wrote: »

Dont forget though that that res needs 35% more grunt than 1440p,therefore you would most likely need to look at crossfire/sli,just like you would for 4k so i doubt you be saving much by going for that res.

As you put it you would need an "ePenis" rig to run it also:p

Its still less then you need to run 4k, but you get more of benefit, then just 4k. 4k detail level is more of an issue right now, then advantage due to scaling. in that monitor you get more pixels to be actually benefitial.

Revoker88

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Its still less then you need to run 4k, but you get more of benefit, then just 4k. 4k detail level is more of an issue right now, then advantage due to scaling. in that monitor you get more pixels to be actually benefitial.

The pixel density is only about the same as a 27" 1440p monitor though so im not sure it would look much better than that,the same image quality just larger 34" panel. Nice middle ground though i suppose

ShadowHearth

EoinHef wrote: »

The pixel density is only about the same as a 27" 1440p monitor though so im not sure it would look much better than that,the same image quality just larger 34" panel. Nice middle ground though i suppose

well, thats what I mean, Pixel density is not as good as 4k, but at that stage I dont really care about it. I would prefer lower pixel density, but more use of the actual pixels. Thats what these 21x9 ratio panels do. Whats the point having all those 4k pixels jammed in to 30 inch monitor if you get more drawbacks from it then benefits.

Tea_Bag

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Sick of our wireless router dropping devices.
If I said I'd spend around €150 on a good router for the house, what would you say to me?

I can help ye out here.

get a Mikrotik RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN.

Irish sellers too:

here cheaper?

where i got mine - shipped from Czech Rep?

can be bought in a Rack mount chassis if you prefer.

here is a thread by PogMoThoin detailing what you need to do to set up one of these bad boys.

its not for the faint of heart, because you literally write your own firewall, write your own nat, QOS etc
but the beauty is that there really is no limit to what you can do. its essentially a 600mhz (OCable to 750 :P) CPU running RouterOS on linux, with a 1000mW wireless chip. you can run scripts straight from a terminal in real time. its apparently comparable to €600 Cisco enterprise gear.

http://forum.mikrotik.com

did i mention it has an LCD touchscreen? plus, look at it! :cool::cool:

Calibos

I can barely get my head around my Asus RT-N66 routers GUI never mind writing firewall rules in command line or something. Cool, powerful and cheap, if you've got the saavy for it though, that mikrotik.

There's a lot to be said for a powerful router what with all the connected devices in the home these days and potentially several users in the home connecting to hundreds of peers each at the same time

Our household of 7 adults with all the desktops, laptops, tablets, smartphones and streaming XBMC media players brings our total concurrently connected devices to about 20 a lot of the time.

When we were just using the supplied UPC Cisco EPC3925 modem/ router we got disconnects every day, averaged 60-70mbit with rare 85mbit max throughput and torrents would bring the home network to its knees as the 3925 just couldn't handle the concurrent load and overheats. The day I purchased the ASUS and bridged my 3925 turning it into a mere modem was the last day I ever had a disconnect and the last day I didn't max out my UPC package speed. Get 123/10mbit 24/7/365 now and for the last 18 months.

deceit

Calibos wrote: »

I can barely get my head around my Asus RT-N66 routers GUI never mind writing firewall rules in command line or something. Cool, powerful and cheap, if you've got the saavy for it though, that mikrotik.

There's a lot to be said for a powerful router what with all the connected devices in the home these days and potentially several users in the home connecting to hundreds of peers each at the same time

Our household of 7 adults with all the desktops, laptops, tablets, smartphones and streaming XBMC media players brings our total concurrently connected devices to about 20 a lot of the time.

When we were just using the supplied UPC Cisco EPC3925 modem/ router we got disconnects every day, averaged 60-70mbit with rare 85mbit max throughput and torrents would bring the home network to its knees as the 3925 just couldn't handle the concurrent load and overheats. The day I purchased the ASUS and bridged my 3925 turning it into a mere modem was the last day I ever had a disconnect and the last day I didn't max out my UPC package speed. Get 123/10mbit 24/7/365 now and for the last 18 months.

I'm going to have to test this out and get a decent router as I've about 40 devices connecting to my 3925. Mostly connecting over lan but the modem is always really hot touch and forever dropping out.
Come to think of it, the issues started happening when I removed my watchguard firewall and was too lazy to put it back in place. I will place something in between over the weekend to lessen the packets its receiving to see if it stops dropping out.

Luck100

Two things which greatly improved my networking performance:

1. Bridge the UPC box and add your own wifi router. I only have a cheap N router from 3 years ago and it still blows away the UPC wifi.

2. Put all torrents on one machine which has ethernet (not wifi) straight into the router. In my case a cheap laptop dedicated for torrents. Then all the remaining wifi devices in the house run smooth. I get the impression that torrent traffic stresses the wifi much more than an equal bandwidth of streaming or simple downloads.

After those two steps I never have disconnects anymore. I might reboot router once every few months as it can very rarely get frozen, but that's strictly it.

Calibos

Forgot to mention that I introduced a fan to my router setup the same day I introduced the new Asus. I'd already noticed like Deceit that the plastic casing on the 3925 got incredibly hot which is all the more surprising given that plastic is not a good conductor of heat.

I also thought I saw a pattern in a lot of complaints about UPC. Lots of complaints in the Summer and Winter months. Much fewer complaints Spring and Autumn. I wondered could that be because of high internal/external ambient temperatures in the Summer and high internal ambient temps because of central heating in the Winter causing the 3925 to breach its reliable operating temperature. Whereas in the Spring and Autumn one would have lower ambients and no CH or CH with the thermostat set lower.

I simply cut the last inch or two off a spare USB cable (who doesn't have 10 or 20 spare USB cables in some drawer these days

) and cut the fan connection of a cheap spare 120mm case fan. Wired them together and plugged into the 3925's USB port on the back. Instant always on 5v silent router fan. Have it sandwiched between the stacked 3925 and Asus with a large pair of rubber bands holding the sandwich together.

McSasquatch

Hate the Cisco UPC unit I have - always hot, Wi-Fi is rubbish, and occasionally even the ethernet connections crap out (accompanied by really high pitched capacitor whine).

Networking is something I have no clue on, so must read up on potential replacement routers and how to bridge it to the Cisco box.

Vandango

I am trying to return a defective motherboard to Hardewareversand.de? They mention in their T&Cs, about printing out one of their return stickers which has their return address on it when you are returning an item.

Problem is, this sticker cannot be found on their site and 3 email later, I'm still waiting for them to email it to me so I can print it out and return the motherboard to them. Does anyone here know what the return address actually is for returning defective items?

Seaaan

Vandango wrote: »

I am trying to return a defective motherboard to Hardewareversand.de? They mention in their T&Cs, about printing out one of their return stickers which has their return address on it when you are returning an item.

Problem is, this sticker cannot be found on their site and 3 email later, I'm still waiting for them to email it to me so I can print it out and return the motherboard to them. Does anyone here know what the return address actually is for returning defective items?

Did you go to complaint and then through those pages and then it brings you to an option to return/replace/swap

Genghiz Cohen

Vandango wrote: »

I am trying to return a defective motherboard to Hardewareversand.de? They mention in their T&Cs, about printing out one of their return stickers which has their return address on it when you are returning an item.

Problem is, this sticker cannot be found on their site and 3 email later, I'm still waiting for them to email it to me so I can print it out and return the motherboard to them. Does anyone here know what the return address actually is for returning defective items?

I was going to RMA my PSU to here:

Just in Time Logistics
c/o hardwareversand.de GmbH
Daimlerweg 2

59519 Möhnesee
Germany

Then I found out the postage was 50% of the price of the thing. Called it quits and bought a new one.

Within 6 months, if the item is found defective, VerSand will refund you the cost of the return postage. Or so the man told me.

Vandango

Seaaan wrote: »

Did you go to complaint and then through those pages and then it brings you to an option to return/replace/swap

Yes I went right to the very end and all I got was an image display of my complaint with my summary ect. Nowhere did it give me an option to print out the Return Shipment Sticker they spoke about. This is supposed to have their return address on it.

So because I don't have it and I don't have their return address, I'm sitting here in limbo and can't return the motherbaord. Oh and I even repeated the complaint process twice to make sure I didn't miss a print label option or anything like that.

Vandango

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

I was going to RMA my PSU to here:

Then I found out the postage was 50% of the price of the thing. Called it quits and bought a new one.

Within 6 months, if the item is found defective, VerSand will refund you the cost of the return postage. Or so the man told me.

My motherboard is 14 days old, so I don't expect them to charge me 40% of it's price for postage. Surely that would be illegal and against European consumer law?

How old was your PSU btw?

challengemaster

Parts fairy came...

Genghiz Cohen

Vandango wrote: »

My motherboard is 14 days old, so I don't expect them to charge me 40% of it's price for postage. Surely that would be illegal and against European consumer law?

How old was your PSU btw?

It was An Post that wanted the money.
My PSU developed a fault after a year and a half, I didn't get around to returning it until after the 2 year window so between the initial cost and the risk I wouldn't get it refunded and that they would just say no, I didn't bother.

Vandango

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

It was An Post that wanted the money.
My PSU developed a fault after a year and a half, I didn't get around to returning it until after the 2 year window so between the initial cost and the risk I wouldn't get it refunded and that they would just say no, I didn't bother.

So since my MB is only 14 days old, I assume I should have no problem with them covering postage ect? The motherboard cost me €254, so 40% of that is €101 .

Btw, I told them I'm looking for a like for like replacement and not a refund on my purchase.

Why did An Post charge you so much btw? And could I not just send it by normal express parcel delivery?

Sorry for all the questions.

Seaaan

Vandango wrote: »

So since my MB is only 14 days old, I assume I should have no problem with them covering postage ect? The motherboard cost me €254, so 40% of that is €101 .

Btw, I told them I'm looking for a like for like replacement and not a refund on my purchase.

Why did An Post charge you so much btw? And could I not just send it by normal express parcel delivery?

Sorry for all the questions.

I just did one and got the option to print a label. Are you sure you did it correctly?

Seaaan

My net got *slightly* faster. Woohoo.

Genghiz Cohen

Vandango wrote: »

So since my MB is only 14 days old, I assume I should have no problem with them covering postage ect? The motherboard cost me €254, so 40% of that is €101 .

Btw, I told them I'm looking for a like for like replacement and not a refund on my purchase.

Why did An Post charge you so much btw? And could I not just send it by normal express parcel delivery?

Sorry for all the questions.

Ah, I see.
You should be fine.
I used 40% as a relative number, not that everyone is charged 40%.
PSU's are heavy and mine cost around €100 new. An Post wanted €40 to ship it to Germany. I had a look around and that was a good price.
Your motherboard will be lighter and should cost less.

You will probably have to pay for the shipping yourself and VerSand will refund you later once they confirm the Mobo is faulty.